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Mark Levin neurosurgeon caller: not yet released Obamacare plans - older folks called 'units'
Mark Levin Show ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 4:04:23 AM PST by Libloather

From Mark's website -

Also, Mark gets an excellent call from a neurosurgeon who gives an inside look on what exactly Obamacare will do. For example, instead of patients, some people over a certain age will be considered, "units," as they try to dehumanize patients and the care they receive.


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Unreal. To hear the caller, go to the link above and click on the upper left corner. Pick last night's show from the list and get it streamed without commercials. I have no idea which hour the neurosurgeon called - had to pick up bits and pieces of the show last night.
1 posted on 11/23/2011 4:04:27 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Marathoner; PLMerite
Can anyone fill me in on the call Mark took from a neurosurgeon?

Ping

2 posted on 11/23/2011 4:09:43 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather
Fits right in there with newts support of mandates, you can bet he supports units termination also, as long as it does not apply to politicians.
3 posted on 11/23/2011 4:09:48 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

They won’t call it termination, they’ll be ‘released’ a la The Giver.


4 posted on 11/23/2011 4:12:12 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: org.whodat
...as long as it does not apply to politicians.

They're exempt. It's in the law.

5 posted on 11/23/2011 4:12:42 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather
When you have a problem after the age of seventy, you need approval from the unit review panel, before the doctor may help you. At seventy you become a unit. Call will replay in the third hour tomorrow night.
6 posted on 11/23/2011 4:13:40 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

Fits right in there with newts support of mandates, you can bet he supports units termination also, as long as it does not apply to politicians.
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I don’t care who your candidate is, that is full-on bull crap. There is no way Gingrich supports “termination”. Support your candidate without resorting to lies and slime.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 4:14:11 AM PST by Irenic
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To: Libloather

Soylent Green...


8 posted on 11/23/2011 4:15:08 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Irenic

Ask him???


9 posted on 11/23/2011 4:18:14 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Libloather

No Moslem units.
No black units.
No Congressional units.

Just white, innocent Americans being sent to their deaths
by Obama and the DNC.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 4:23:06 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

nobamacare = stay healthy or die


11 posted on 11/23/2011 4:26:31 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: org.whodat

Ask him???

Good grief. Ask him what? Gingrich?

There is a point of supporting a particular candidate that it gets beyond rational...


12 posted on 11/23/2011 4:28:38 AM PST by Irenic
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To: org.whodat

“When you have a problem after the age of seventy, you need approval from the unit review panel, before the doctor may help you. At seventy you become a unit. Call will replay in the third hour tomorrow night.”

It is very likely to make Social Security and Medicare viable it will be necessary to raise the retirement age above the 67 in current legislation. No doubt someone in government has already figured out the end game. Retire at 70 and be euthanized on your retirement date. After all you are no longer productive, you are consuming resources, and any assets you’ve accumulated during your lifetime can be much more fairly deployed by the state for the benefit of society.

For a socialist society, with a shrinking economic pie, the ultimate answer is to eliminate the number of citizens. The elderly and the unborn are the logical choices.


13 posted on 11/23/2011 4:30:59 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: 1010RD

It will be called “discomfort abatement”.


14 posted on 11/23/2011 4:33:26 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Libloather
some people over a certain age will be considered, "units,"

This is SOP for the democrats. The most egregious example is calling a child in it's mother's womb a "fetus". So people over a certain age will be "units" and children not yet born are a "fetus". See how easy it is for people with no soul?

15 posted on 11/23/2011 4:34:07 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: mc5cents

Good point, that is exactly what the souless are doing to this country.


16 posted on 11/23/2011 4:40:26 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Libloather

Obama is a “unit”.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 4:49:58 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Scotsman will be Free

“It will be called “discomfort abatement”.

I think it will definitely be sold as “goodness and light”. I am sure the media will join in and do segments about the elderly and how their lives are filled with pain. Frightening stuff.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 4:51:35 AM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree

No question. We will get the usual teary eyed stories of the elderly that are alone, broke, no one to turn to, and in a very bad medical condition.
“How could we possibly insist that they continue on in their misery and suffering”? Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 4:54:29 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Come over here and I’ll show you my unit


20 posted on 11/23/2011 4:57:02 AM PST by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: Libloather
In summary (and paraphrasing), Neurosurgeon was at a conference where they reviewed policies coming out of HHS. If you show up in an emergency room with a brain bleed (aneurism) or other such problem, are over 70, and on govt insurance, all they can do is offer "comfort" care. IOW, the "unit" is not worth the expense of surgery. But an "ethics" panel [Sarah was right, says Levin, it IS a death panel] of administrators could decide to authorize the care. Surgeon pointed out his 9 years of additional training and that the administrators don't know a thing about what he does.

He also pointed out that many of the tools they use have yet to be approved but they are allowed to use them under as a Humanitarian Use Device - IOW, gee, that's an interesting tool you have there, we'll take a few years to run it through our bureaucracy and see if we'll let you continue to use it. Doc said at least one HUD was yanked away from them.

Mark asked if the regs were public yet, doc said no. I'm not sure if the doc said the regs were in force or just proposed. Hopefully it's the latter as a lot of this carp is backed off once the sunshine hits it.

21 posted on 11/23/2011 4:57:55 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: Libloather; All

“The silence of our guns stands as testimony to our complicity with tyranny.” John A. Argese


22 posted on 11/23/2011 4:58:01 AM PST by j.argese (You may think you've won the day, in the end you will surely lose the important race.)
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To: Libloather

23 posted on 11/23/2011 5:04:45 AM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: Libloather

I heard it on my way home last night. It’s a bit of audio that every American needs to hear. Anyone who wants to hear it who missed it, you can go to www.marklevinshow.com and click the audio link and hear the replay (free).


24 posted on 11/23/2011 5:07:30 AM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: 1010RD

Soylent Green.
What would be your favorite music and film to see and listen to as they put you to sleep,just asking,you know,from one UNIT to another..


25 posted on 11/23/2011 5:09:13 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Libloather
Units - UNITE!!!!
26 posted on 11/23/2011 5:14:57 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich-Cain 2012)
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To: Libloather

Thanks. I was looking for this. It needs to go viral.


27 posted on 11/23/2011 5:17:56 AM PST by Marathoner ("Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force." George Washington)
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To: Libloather

Our career politicians are our royalty.


28 posted on 11/23/2011 5:17:59 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: ballplayer

Stairway to Heaven, live version. Ether that or the William Tell Overture.


29 posted on 11/23/2011 5:19:17 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: Libloather

IMHO....ObamaCare has yet to be fully read and comprehended by anybody. It may even require computer interpretation to fully draw all the thread together. I have been told it effectively terminates Medicare by 2015-2016-not explicitly-obviously-but by the aggregation and enactment of several thousand rules and regulations.

Ezekiel Emanual MD the former White House consultant and NIH science adviser to the White House on health care HIMSELF PUBLICALLY STATED his advocacy of the Complete Lives System -a process for assessing who is “worth” society’s advocacy.

http://facta-non-verba.blogspot.com/2009/08/ezekiel-emanuels-article-from-lancet.html

This what happens when governments are allowed to become involved in peoples’ lives and intimate decision-making. Some special few ultimately receive subsidized “special-care” -from the taxpayer-while those “unworthy” -except for their capacity to fund the “special-few”-are told to go pound sand.


30 posted on 11/23/2011 5:20:14 AM PST by mo
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To: sodpoodle

Well, seems like after 70 might just be the time to take a few select trophies.


31 posted on 11/23/2011 5:22:30 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Libloather
44:30 in will get you to it.
32 posted on 11/23/2011 5:30:35 AM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: shadeaud

Show me your unit, and it’ll cost you a million dollars to get it back.


33 posted on 11/23/2011 5:32:13 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: windcliff; onedoug

ping


34 posted on 11/23/2011 5:34:58 AM PST by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: Libloather

35 posted on 11/23/2011 5:36:38 AM PST by Plexi
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To: Libloather

“dehumanize patients and the care they receive.”=Just another name for Eugenics.

Somewhere in hell, Hitler, Margret Sanger and Mao are all smiling.


36 posted on 11/23/2011 5:38:31 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: JaguarXKE

Here is a link to that part of the show.
http://www.therightscoop.com/shock-brain-surgeon-confirms-obamacare-rations-care-has-death-panels/


37 posted on 11/23/2011 5:59:37 AM PST by sweetiepiezer (I have a Pal In Sarah.)
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To: LucyT; neverdem; Las Vegas Ron

health ping


38 posted on 11/23/2011 6:01:02 AM PST by sweetiepiezer (I have a Pal In Sarah.)
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To: Soul of the South

IIRC the ethicist behind Obamacare believes medical resources should be concentrated on those between 14 and 40.


39 posted on 11/23/2011 6:07:56 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Glenn

bttt


40 posted on 11/23/2011 6:18:37 AM PST by aberaussie
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To: Libloather

Thanks for the posting
Levin’s show doesn’t have as wide a distribution as Hannity and of course Rush. He is on Series sattellite 5pm cst till 8pm cst On the AM band here in the midwest he can be picked up rebroadcast on Detroit’s WJR am 760 at 7-10pm and rebroadcast 9-12pm WLS am 890 both stations are 50K powerhouses.
Boy that call better be an eye opener for those Obama/Romney care defenders. A neuro-surgeon specializing in strokes and blood clot treatments and corrections just got through attending a DC neuro/brain specialist insiders convention dealing with that aspect of Obamncare.

He related
All patients wil be considered “units” and units over 70 will not be recipients of their speciality. Because the decision to operate will be taken out of the surgeon hands and given to a panel of actuaries. Levin will return Monday very likely that call will be repeated by his subs and probably Monday.


41 posted on 11/23/2011 7:01:32 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name II received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: All; Libloather

Mark Levin said it was verified that the caller was who he said he was, a neurosurgeon. This call generated many other calls to warn us about Obamacare.

Another physician called Mark’s show and said they had a closed-door meeting where oncologists said govt. might put them out of business.


42 posted on 11/23/2011 7:53:13 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: NonValueAdded; All

“I’m not sure if the doc said the regs were in force or just proposed. Hopefully it’s the latter as a lot of this carp is backed off once the sunshine hits it.”

Let’s all call our congresscritters, and also send them a link to this thread, or Mark’s show.


43 posted on 11/23/2011 8:03:54 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: org.whodat

This is a ‘trash dems’ post - THEY ARE DOING THIS NOW... Newt isn’t. ObamaCare is....


44 posted on 11/23/2011 8:05:54 AM PST by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: Libloather
The most nefarious aspect that is happening in health care that no one mentions is the electronic medical record EMR. The government is financially forcing hospitals and physician offices to convert over to EMR or they will get fined or not reimbursed by Medicare.
This will allow the federal government access to your medical information. They will know every detail that has been documented between you and your physician. It will allow the government to determine if you get care based on their treatment algorithms. HIPPA means nothing to the federal government. They can access your chart for national security issues.

One of the primary developers of the software for EMR is a company called Epic. The software package cost to a hospital is close to 100 million and like all software packages will require expensive upgrades. The company is privately owned. The founder is a computer science prof from university of Wisconsin and she had help from the people at Harvard to help with development. Orwellian medicine is here.

45 posted on 11/23/2011 8:43:21 AM PST by pterional
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To: Libloather

Unit is so impersonal.....how about calling us a “pre-corpse”


46 posted on 11/23/2011 9:07:16 AM PST by machman
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To: Libloather; Admin Moderator

IMHO, this should be moved to Breaking News under a new title. Something like ‘Doctors Being Briefed by HHS on Death Panels’ (Levin Show Caller)


47 posted on 11/23/2011 10:04:56 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: machman

“pre-corpse”… I like it!


48 posted on 11/23/2011 10:17:58 AM PST by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: Libloather

Bookmarked


49 posted on 11/23/2011 11:09:26 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: Soul of the South

Interesting you say that, because I’ve long felt that if they “fix” Medicare that will ultimately take care of the Social Security problem as well.


50 posted on 11/23/2011 12:18:29 PM PST by SuzyQueIN
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