Posted on 11/23/2011 7:34:31 AM PST by heiss
Missed the debate because of wrestling practice, but it’s hardly surprising that Newt would support amnesty for illegal aliens. After the Pelosi global-warming ad and Dede Scozzafava and “right-wing social engineering,” is it any surprise he’d adopt the left’s line on immigration too? He earned a career grade of D from Numbers USA (they calculate back to 1989). Heck, even Barbara Boxer has a career grade of D+.
.. So the Gingrich Amnesty would cover illegal immigrants here when Congress passed IRCA. That is to say, it would pick up where the previous amnesty left off, legalizing precisely those people who didn’t qualify for IRCA. This just underlines what a chump you have to be to support any deal offered you by amnesty supporters.
Which is why “enforcement first” is the only way to go: consistent, unapologetic, across-the-board enforcement of the immigration law at our consulates overseas for visa applicants, at the borders, and inside the country, especially at the worksite — without preconditions or deals or grand bargains.
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To change laws, you have to elect a majority in a legislative body.
Why do you think you have not been able to do this? Why isn't Tom Tancredo or Duncan Hunter President? Why isn't JD Hayworth a US Senator from Arizona?
It's not because you can't argue your point well, or because you aren't clear about what you want.
It's because your position is unpopular, and is electoral death for candidates who adopt it.
Do you know what happens when you call INS, or whatever they call it now, and report an illegal?
Newt did not support amnesty. He did say to provide a pathway to legal if they have been here for many years, have a family, paid taxes, etc, that he could see a way to keep them here. He did say that illegals should be deported.
Pap. Substitute ANY other country here. "My husband 'commanded' me to come to Bermuda illegally, so the Bermuda government better damn well embrace my arrival and continued residence." Pffft.
I'd be thrown out on my ass, as would said 'commandant' husband, and rightly so.
No it won’t. Another “Trail of Tears”. not going to happen.
“So I think you’ve got to deal with this as a comprehensive approach that starts with controlling the border, as the governor said. I believe ultimately you have to find some system — once you’ve put every piece in place, which includes the guest worker program,........”
1. CONTROL THE BORDER. In case you didn't notice, this is NUMBER ONE.
2. Guest worker program.
3. THEN, he talks about a way to deal with long time residents with ties, jobs, families, on a case by case basis, to remain here legally SHORT OF CITIZENSHIP.
We are NEVER going to deport all illegal aliens, nor should we. It's not practical, humane, nor even possible. To have the opinion that we just kick out ALL illegals, is just plain IGNORANT. Discussion with anyone with that opinion is like having a discussion with the “Flat Earth Society”.
You can't judge Newt with soundbites. You need to listen to his complete answers.
If you go to the Border Security sites you REALLY see the warzone and the hoards of illegals coming over...you also learn that our guys hands are tied more times than not.
If they aren't being supported by the nanny state programs they will eat better in Mexico.
And perhaps if most of them went back, they would be inspired to fight the corruption in their own country and lift it out of third world status, instead of bring the USA down to that level.
If we stopped all services save life and death care to illegals, as well as fining employees and daily enforcing it, most illegals would self-deport. Families or not. Most are here for the freebies and jobs.
Now, if your wonderful illegal is seriously no burden on the taxpayers or job seekers, he will stay. Say, if he has a company himself and his kids all speak English and he pays for his own needs. He won’t self deport.
But all the freeloaders will.
Never abandon the good because it isn’t the perfect. Newt’s plan is amnesty. Central Americans know that all you have to do is to get here and lay low. Eventually you will be allowed to stay. Newt’s idea encourages everyone who’s not here to get here. Newts idea lets countries like Mexico just outsource their poverty. It’s wrong.
What Newt wants is to settle the issue...open discussion which yp to now has been impossible beacuse of the push for cap and trade on an International level. He's opposing that but still wants it open for conversation and debate to settle matter...I agree.
BTW what about the living here 20 something years who still demand government print paperwork in Spanish? What about second generation grown up who still no speak English? We paid for their education remember that? The parents didn't come here to become Americans they came here too be illegals working in the USA UNDER THE TABLE taking benefits while doing so and if they get caught or in legal trouble they do one of several things like go back home till the heat is off, or move to another state with new someone else STOLLEN I.D. and right back in.
Can you or I do this and avoid jail? No we can't live without a trace number so why are you wanting to enable them too do what we can't? If I did the things illegals do including signing official papers under penalty of perjury with false information I'd be under the jail.
I totally support Newt for President. I cannot believe some of the comments from some of the posters. Some seem to live in a cocoon of stupidity.
I heard him say “pro family” policies cannot separate families. A straw man; when the person is deported, he takes his anchor babies with him.
You should post more often. Your clarity and common sense are needed here on FR to help dilute the Knee JERK reactions of others.
and a “cone of stupidity” as well.
It’s a choice to be separated from family; take your anchor babies, and leave.....family remains intact.
Can you post a reference?
I pulled the relevant USC this morning, and it said ten years except for fraud, which is seven.
If they support themselves, they stay. If not they go, no matter how long they have been here.
Governor Jan Brewer!!!!! She kicked butt!!
Newt is to the left of Perry on this. I wonder how Newt feels about his global warming nonsense in light of the latest tranche of emails that has emerged...
I wish DeMint were running.
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