Skip to comments.POLL: Where do you stand on illegal immigration?
Posted on 11/23/2011 9:41:04 AM PST by stompk
POLL: Where do you stand on illegal immigration?
Should illegal immigrants who have lived in the United States for many years be allowed a pathway to live in the United States legally?
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25.3% No 4,388 votes
All they have to do is go home and apply from there to come in legally, at the end of the line BTW.
Wow when you have to go to Uber Leftist website like MNBC to find online polling data to validate your “Conservative” candidate’s position, your campaign is in serious trouble.
Bumped and FReeped
Bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus.
Yes, as long as the pathway starts in their home country. Since that was not an option, I voted no.
Bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus.
I understand there is a large backlog of applications for legal immigration, but maybe they could be processed a little faster if illegals didn't demand and get preferential treatment.
That's Cain's position too. No matter what you say.
I see you have moved on to tactic #4. When all else fails, lie in order to divert attention off your Cult Father's Newt's gaffe.
Folks should learn the details of Newt’s plan and then contrast that with lack of realism in their own approach.
No citizenship for any illegals ever!!
No right to vote!
I can support that.
Is it 25? What about someone who’s been here 22 years? Do they have to go home, or do they get to stay?
What about seventeen?
Ten? What about a guy who claims to have been here for ten years “living in the shadows” and has no evidence?
What about a guy who’s been here eight years and his wife 5 years and they’ve got 4 kids, ages 12, 10, 6, and 3? Do they all get to stay?
Here’s the solution: Vigorous workplace enforcement and denial of welfare benefits to ANY illegal alien. Dry up the work and the benefits, and they’ll go home.
That’s it go to the end of the line! Stop giving citizenship to anybody who happens to be here and has a child!
We already have a pathway to citizenship. It doesn’t involve sneaking across borders.
BTW, I didn't mention Newt, but regarding lack of realism, let me say we can get rid of most illegals simply by cutting off the magnet(s). This can be done without our having to become a police state or having to round up 12 million people.
Let’s check the logic here.
I committed a crime (robbed a bank, stole a car, burglarized a home, ect), I’ve been on the run and have not been caught for ‘x’ years, nor have I made any restitution for the consequences of my actions.
- does my crime get forgiven?
I like the proposed bills that would revoke a company's tax licence after the second time they are caught hiring an illegal alien.
Uh...the poll, which is the subject of this thread, resulted from an article questioning the effect of Newt’s plan, presented last night.
That’s why I click on links, to learn the basis for the question.
No its a slap in the face to the REAL immigrants who did it the right way...
Should we forgive bank robbers and just let them keep the money since they only robbed a bank 25 years ago of $1 Million and havent had to since ???
We already have a pathway to citizenship. It doesnt involve sneaking across borders.
well it was working fine when I arrived here in 1971...
If you hire them they will come. Gingrich tells Americans to take a bath and look for a job. Companies make money on cheap labor wherever they find it. Up yours Newt.
If they’ve broken the law, which they have, and have likely committed a FELONY by fraudulent use of a SS#, they should be barred from further entry to this country. I thought that’s what we did to non-citizen criminals?
THAT says a LOT.
It is irrational, inhumane and impossible to deport all those people who we have allowed to sneak in here years ago and have been good citizens or residents since then.
We should target RECENT arrivals, the COMPANIES who HIRE them (all those damn landscapers among MANY) and the BORDER.
ALSO go after the ASSETS of those nations like Mexico, who refuse to STOP the flow of their citizens into America and recoup our expenses for dealing with them from those assets.
Deport them all.
There are far too many to deport to make this a feasible option.
(So deporting NONE is the alternative?)
Many children of illegal immigrants have only known the U.S. as their home all of their lives. It would be cruel to banish them into a strange, third-world environment.
(So we're the villains rather than the law-breaking parents. We get it.)
And the most ridiculous argument:
They only came here to work hard and contribute to jobs that Americans won't do.
Uh, they won't do them because they aren't AVAILABLE to Americans to do - haven't been for decades. Ever hear of the high unemployment rate we have right now?
ALL insurgents should be deported.. or better.. Encouraged to Self-Deport...
With a WALL from San Diego to Brownsville they would worried about not being able to visit HOME..
A simple local housing law that all real estate and property managers must prove citizenship (to rent or sell) would start a stampede south.. and many of the chinese and indian insurgents would go as well..
I say that, in case some one thinks all insurgents are mexicans.. or latin americans..
Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed.....
Apply federal law on being in the US illegally. Better yet use the Mexican law. They’re always challenging US law so to shut them up use theirs. The US is the only country that harbors it’s illegals and allows them all the rights. No other country does that. If you’re in their country illegally after you’re released from jail or a compound you’re deported. No rights, no job, no welfare, nothing. You do that here and the illegals will leave voluntarily.
As a legal immigrant myself, absolutely not. I did not immigrate to this magnificent country to put up with law breakers given amnesty. No amnesty to rapists, bank robbers, white collar crime and illegal immigrants, not now, not ever!
The statute of limitations should not apply to illegals, same as murderers.
Self-deportation is the key...period.
Next, build a primary fence the entire length of the US/Mexican border with secondary fences on both sides where border patrol and armed military personnel can continue to be actively engaged in patrolling and securing the border.
Third, through a process of attrition, the illegals who are already in the United States be given notice by every available public domain that they have exactly 90 days to return to their country of origin and begin the process for legal immigration. After 90 days when you are discovered, you will be arrested, processed, and fined the amount of money the illegal has taken from the tax payer's of the United States for whatever time you have been in the United States, including the amount of tax dollars it took to arrest them and process them in a court of law. The bill will also be given to the country of origin for an outstanding debt and until it is paid in full, the illegal immigrant in question will not be allowed to file an application or receive permission from the United States of America to become a citizen.
Finally, no tax dollars may be given, or made available to anyone who has entered the United States of America illegally, including, but, not limited to school, colleges, welfare programs, hospitals (once treated are arrested and the illegal immigrant and country of origin is billed for the cost), drivers license or state id's etc.
Enforce with all law enforcement assets available both state of federal to prevent any further violations of our immigration laws!
Criminal illegals should be put on a prison ship and sent south, harboring off the shore of Honduras, Guatamala, Nicaragua, etc. and hire the locals to be guards on the prison ship.
In order for our laws to have effect we have to take the hard line.
Get caught here illegally HAS to mean you not only get deported ASAP, it HAS to also mean you can NEVER come back, not even as a tourist or student.
The current consequences are too light, and usually even those are not enforced.
We read daily of illegals who have been deported several times, but keep returning.
Eventually they commit a serious enough crime to end up in prison, where they continue to drain our economy for their care.
The families of illegals have a choice, wave goodbye to illegal, or accompany them when they are deported.
Yes, it IS that simple.
I recommend NOT “falling in love” with illegals.
I still say we need to immediately initiate a simple policy.
For every illegal found in the U.S. we subtract three LEGAL immigration slots from that country for the year.
Make sure the immigrants waiting their turn know that the line got longer thanks to the illegals jumping the line.
Maybe put in a reward system for reporting human smugglers, such as moving their application nearer to the top of the pile.
Do those things and illegal aliens will self-deport rather quickly and pay for the trip themselves.
Poll isn’t broad enough in it’s choices. There is a difference in being a legal resident and a legal citizen. Both are countable, pay taxes but only one can legally vote.
The ignorant are so insecure that they will always vote with the majority. How it becomes a majority depends on the poll software. Just count every vote you like and only every tenth vote of the ones you don't.
There is no real way from preventing groups from paying "poll voters" from pushing the right button all day.
Soros has the bucks.
Illegals are outlaw invaders. Round them up, expel them (and their anchor babies, too). Discussion closed.
Tell us all how you felt when the swat team per Janet Rino forcefully took Elian Gonzalez and sent him back to South America?
Apples and Oranges.There is an official national policy regarding Cuban Refugees.
It's not rocket science.
It’s different because it’s different!
If Elian Gonzalez was Haitian his ass would still be floating in the Atlantic.
Moreover, Elian Gonzalez was picked up in the middle of open water, so the wet foot/dry foot policy never applied to him.
He didnt belong here right? I take it the swat team with guns drawn was fine with you and you were 100% with Reno on that deal?
The great epic migration of illegal aliens, upwards of 20 million, came under 8 years of the Bush’s presidency.