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US to Egypt: Stick to election plan, even if it favors Islamist parties
CSM ^ | 11/23/2011 | Howard LaFranchi

Posted on 11/23/2011 1:13:50 PM PST by mojito

The United States is encouraging Egypt’s military rulers to stick to a schedule of elections set to kick off next week, despite continuing violence – and despite the likelihood that the electoral timetable favors the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist movements.

The Obama administration is in essence caught between two unpalatable options: pressing ahead for elections that the Islamists are likely to win, and thereby sounding like a force for Egypt’s democratic transition; or recommending a postponement that a growing number of liberal Egyptians prefer, but which risks coming across as anti-democratic.

Egypt’s transitional military rulers announced Wednesday that parliamentary elections set to begin Monday will go ahead, despite five days of violence that has left more than 35 Egyptians dead and scores wounded.

The plan to proceed with voting was worked out at a meeting Tuesday between the military and the Muslim Brotherhood, the two most powerful institutions in post-Hosni-Mubarak Egypt. The new plan also calls for presidential elections to be held before July, an apparent acceleration of a previously announced transition plan.

Other political parties were invited to Tuesday’s meeting, but most liberal secular movements boycotted it.

Still, many Egyptians – in particular those who spearheaded the February movement that toppled a regime – fear that the military, composed in large part of recruits from the country’s more conservative rural areas, favors a Brotherhood electoral triumph. They worry that a parliamentary triumph for the Brotherhood, combined with the military staying in power at least until mid-summer, would allow the two to write a constitution – and to delineate civil and political rights to their liking.

Despite those concerns, the US is sticking to its support for the established electoral calendar.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ayers; cairo; codepink; dnc4ikhwan; dohrn; egypt; ikhwan; manchurianmuslim; muftiinchief; muslimbrotherhood; obama; obama4ikhwan
What a surprise. It's working out just like Hussein wanted all along.
1 posted on 11/23/2011 1:13:53 PM PST by mojito
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To: mojito

Friggin’ unbelievable.


2 posted on 11/23/2011 1:19:53 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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3 posted on 11/23/2011 1:25:49 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: mojito
US Ubama to Egypt: Stick to election plan, even ESPECIALLY if it favors Islamist parties

Fixed it

4 posted on 11/23/2011 1:27:49 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: mojito

“...despite the likelihood that the electoral timetable favors the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist movements.”

That was a journalist typo. It was suppose to say “...because of the likelihood....”


5 posted on 11/23/2011 1:27:53 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: mojito

yep.

hussein’s in the bag for the radicals.

carter: iran

obama: mideast


6 posted on 11/23/2011 1:30:22 PM PST by ken21
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To: mojito

This is unbelievable that a Muslim would be elected in a Muslim country. Imagine in England a Christian would be elected or in Israel, a Jew. You want elections, you get elections. Majority wins.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 1:40:41 PM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: mojito

Obama meant “especially” if it favors Islamist parties


8 posted on 11/23/2011 1:43:03 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: mojito

The theory of Islamic democracy: One man. One vote. One time. (Women need not apply.)


9 posted on 11/23/2011 1:44:58 PM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: mojito; GeronL; ken21; Nachum; E. Pluribus Unum; Tulsa Ramjet

live links...

http://newsblogged.com/live-streaming-video-tahrir-square-cairo-egypt-201111

http://rt.com/on-air/egypt-tahrir-clashes-live/

Twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulaSlier_RT


10 posted on 11/23/2011 1:49:32 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: ex-snook

Obama is enabling “The Muslim Brotherhood”. Looks like they’ll be in charge.

WE should be worried.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 1:56:58 PM PST by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: mojito

Keep your nose out of the internal affairs of Egypt, Clinton/Obama!!!


12 posted on 11/23/2011 2:05:49 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: ChiMark

10 minutes ago via Twitter..

PaulaSlier_RT PaulaSlier_RT

Muslim Brotherhood praises some changes proposed by military but is calling for information and interior ministers to step down #cairo
10 minutes ago


13 posted on 11/23/2011 2:10:40 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Stick to election plan, even if it favors Islamist parties

Yeah that worked out so well for Palestine. Now a recognised terrorist group rules the streets and the blood runs freely.

Or is that the plan Barry Hussain Obama?

14 posted on 11/23/2011 2:18:35 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ex-snook
Its not about Muslims, its about terrorist's ruling the election places to load the deck...


15 posted on 11/23/2011 2:21:44 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: mojito

I really doubt that Egypt’s military is STUPID ENOUGH to listen to President Obama. They will do what’s necessary.


16 posted on 11/23/2011 2:31:05 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: Sacajaweau

Nope, it’s completely believable.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 3:05:05 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BobL

You want to stop the vote just because you don’t like how it might turn out? Not every democracy is going to love the US. It’s a fact of the world. The people there make their own decisions about whom they want in power. You wouldn’t have wanted the US military to take over the country and cancel Election Day to stop Obama from being president, would you? I mean... as much as we all detest him, I’d rather elect a bad leader than have a military dictatorship deciding everything. That never goes well.
Let the vote go through, let the chips fall where they may. We have no idea what’s going to happen. But the fact that the new government might not be friendly toward us isn’t going to be, and shouldn’t be, a factor. Freedom is messy. Isn’t that what we tell liberals?


18 posted on 11/23/2011 8:38:47 PM PST by christx30
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Thanks mojito.
19 posted on 11/23/2011 8:56:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: christx30

“You want to stop the vote just because you don’t like how it might turn out?”

You’re damn right. I’d rather have countries friendly to the US than more Iran-type nightmares.

“Not every democracy is going to love the US. It’s a fact of the world.”

Agree.

“The people there make their own decisions about whom they want in power.”

Sorry, but I like the idea of us having some say also.

“You wouldn’t have wanted the US military to take over the country and cancel Election Day to stop Obama from being president, would you?”

Considering our debt level and the future of this country...no comment.

“I mean... as much as we all detest him, I’d rather elect a bad leader than have a military dictatorship deciding everything. That never goes well.”

It went great for Chile, and prevented them from becoming a Marxist state. A true US success story and more freedom there than could have ever been dreamed of, had their “people’s revolution” played out.

“Let the vote go through, let the chips fall where they may. We have no idea what’s going to happen. But the fact that the new government might not be friendly toward us isn’t going to be, and shouldn’t be, a factor. Freedom is messy. Isn’t that what we tell liberals?”

I prefer having friendly countries around the world. If we go isolationist, others (like China now) fill in the vacuum and we become Third World as they control our access to resources. You may be fine with that, but not me.


20 posted on 11/23/2011 9:02:59 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: BobL

I’m not saying become isolationist. I’m saying that people around the world are going to make decisions on whom they want to be in power. It’s none of our business. We have no say in the matter who gets elected dog catcher in Moscow. The people that have to live under the rule of the president get to decide.
They didn’t elect anyone over here. We don’t get to take that decision from them.
It would be great if a guy friendly to the US was in there. But that’s not always possible. The people that live there do NOT want the military in charge. They want elections. They spent weeks fighting and dying to get Mubarak out of there. They are fighting and dying right now to protest what they see as the military going back on their word by trying to delay the election.

And, no. Despite the debt and everything, I’m sure you would rather not live under a military dictatorship than deal with Obama. We can make sure he loses his job in 2012. With the military, we wouldn’t have that luxury. Democracy has worked in this country for 222 years. Why not let other countries have that as well? They aren’t children. And the more that we treat them as children, the more they are going to resent us as a country, and hate Americans.


21 posted on 11/23/2011 9:17:17 PM PST by christx30
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To: christx30

“I’m saying that people around the world are going to make decisions on whom they want to be in power. It’s none of our business.”

Ultra-naive.

Have a nice Thanksgiving.


22 posted on 11/24/2011 12:02:18 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda

What would you think about Castro or Chavez saying “We don’t like Herman Cain at all. We don’t think he should campaign for President. We think that the election should be cancelled and Obama should be your glorious leader for the indefinite future. He shares our beliefs and he is someone that we can work with.”
You’d tell them to mind their own business.


23 posted on 11/24/2011 12:23:44 PM PST by christx30
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To: christx30

What would you do if they elected someone that you don’t like? Sanctions? Bombing? Having the military keep delaying the elections?

Freedom is great. Democracy is good. It’s just not ok for everyone to have, right?


24 posted on 11/24/2011 12:38:39 PM PST by christx30
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To: mojito
I wonder if His Majesty will feel the same way when 2012 rolls around and the Republican Party is on top?

Or will he find a way to delay the elections... For Peace and Public Security, of course?

25 posted on 11/24/2011 12:53:49 PM PST by Gritty (Compromise that is not a solution is a waste of time. We either save this country or we do not-Rubio)
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To: christx30

“You’d tell them to mind their own business.”

No, I’d say that is more evidence of OBAMA BEING SUPPORTED BY COMMUNIST SCUM.

And when Øbowmao is defeated I hope we have a Pres who will authorize a bullet in Castro’s and Chavez’ sh*t filled brains.

You, OTOH, are advocating sticking your head in the sand with who is doing what in areas of the world where AMERICA HAS VITAL ECONOMIC AND MILITARY INTERESTS, and via that, we will wind up with HITLER again, and with STALIN and MAO again.

This isn’t 1890, we can’t “bunker” (sic) down and pretend what’s “over there” can be ignored.

Maybe you haven’t been paying attention:

A MAJOR TRADING / SMUGGLING INTERSECTION OF SOUTH AMERICA OF IS CONTROLLED BY HEZBULLAH.

Have you HEARD OF HEZBULLAH? THEY ARE MIDDLE EASTERN MUSLIM SCUM.

Perhaps you have heard that MEXICO IS ON THE VERGE OF TOTAL CHAOS?

You do KNOW that Mexico is ON OUR SOUTHER BORDER?

And that SOUTH AMERICA PROVIDES ACCESS TO MEXICO?

Does the phrase “connect the dots” mean anything to you?


26 posted on 11/25/2011 2:33:00 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda

I’m not saying at all that we should stick our heads in the sand. Where did I say that? Of COURSE we’re going to look out for our interests overseas. That’s pretty much a given. What I’m saying that the people that live in that country have a right to pick their own leaders. If they want friggin’ Santa Clause, then Santa is going to be their President, and there’s not a damn thing that we can, or should, do about it.
We need to work with whomever they choose. Just like they work with whomever we choose.


27 posted on 11/25/2011 12:04:29 PM PST by christx30
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To: christx30
"What I’m saying that the people that live in that country have a right to pick their own leaders."

Because Egypt has such a strong tradition of a constitutional republic, with fair elections.... (NOT)

" If they want friggin’ Santa Clause, then Santa is going to be their President, and there’s not a damn thing that we can, or should, do about it."

And if they want the next Stalin/Hitler/Mao/Khomeni who promises to close the Suez to America, destroy Israel, and then share his resources with Chavez, NK and Iran in order to destroy US, we should just sit back and wait for him?

What are you, TWELVE YEARS OLD?

"We need to work with whomever they choose. Just like they work with whomever we choose."

They work with who we have as a leader BECAUSE WE GIVE THEM THREE BILLION $ A YEAR.

Have you read ANY 20th CENTURY HISTORY of the arab world and the West's interaction?

And just to head off your next thought, no they DON'T GET TO HAVE THE SAME OPTIONS of interfering in our policies (though they try), because AMERICA ISN'T TRYING TO DESTROY OR OCCUPY EGYPT, and yes, the muslim brotherhood IS part of a movement to impost a WORLD-WIDE CALIPHATE.

28 posted on 11/26/2011 4:57:33 PM PST by Yehuda (quote and)
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