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No contract binds Boeing to local jobs (Wichita plant shutdown?)
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 11/23/11 | Molly McMillin

Posted on 11/23/2011 3:05:44 PM PST by Evil Slayer

Boeing seems “very serious” about its study on whether to shut down its Wichita plant, Sen. Jerry Moran said Tuesday.

“I think Boeing considers this a real option,” Moran said.

His comments followed Boeing’s announcement Monday that it was studying the future of its Wichita site, including whether to close the facility.

Elected officials from Kansas and Wichita, and union leaders reacted Tuesday by requesting meetings with Boeing officials to remind them of the promises they made to put jobs in Kansas should the company win an Air Force contract for aerial refueling tankers.

Gov. Sam Brownback said he and Kansas’ congressional delegation will “fight and fight hard” to keep Boeing in Wichita.

What the state can do, however, is unclear.

There’s no contractual agreement between Boeing and the state of Kansas that binds the company to the jobs, Brownback said.

Boeing’s competitor for the tanker contract, Airbus, aligned itself with the state of Alabama and other states, saying it would put work in those states if it won. Boeing, meanwhile, aligned itself with Kansas and the state of Washington and promised jobs there, Brownback said. Boeing was awarded the contract, worth about $35 billion, earlier this year.

“It’s ... the nature of how those (military) contracts are awarded and won,” Brownback said.

Brownback and other elected officials have requested a meeting with Boeing CEO Jim McNerney.

“We’re going to remind them of their obligations that they have made in seeing these tankers are built in Kansas and in Wichita,” said Rep. Mike Pompeo, R-Wichita.

Boeing repeatedly said during the long fight over the contract that a win would mean 7,500 jobs for Kansas, including several hundred jobs at Boeing Wichita. The Congressional delegation pushed hard for Boeing on the tanker program, Brownback said. In fact, he said he doubts Boeing

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: boeing; shutdown; wichita
Hawker Beechraft laying off big time and, now, Boeing possibly leaving Wichita. Not good.
1 posted on 11/23/2011 3:05:48 PM PST by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer
Elected officials from Kansas and Wichita, and union leaders reacted Tuesday by requesting meetings with Boeing officials to remind them of the promises they made to put jobs in Kansas should the company win an Air Force contract for aerial refueling tankers.Was that before or after the NLRB starting intimidating and using commie tactics on Boeing with the S. Carolina move.
2 posted on 11/23/2011 3:08:10 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Evil Slayer
Elected officials from Kansas and Wichita, and union leaders reacted Tuesday by requesting meetings with Boeing officials to remind them of the promises they made to put jobs in Kansas should the company win an Air Force contract for aerial refueling tankers.

Was that before or after the NLRB starting intimidating and using commie tactics on Boeing with the S. Carolina move?

3 posted on 11/23/2011 3:08:32 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Boeing lined up with Kansas and Wichita,
Airbus lined up with Alabama.

Am I the only one who se’s Congressional corruption here?

In other words the states with the strongest congressional delegations get the contract, not the company with the best design or the best price.

Am I the only one that see’s this as BS?


4 posted on 11/23/2011 3:16:11 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Evil Slayer

bfl


5 posted on 11/23/2011 3:25:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Venturer
Boeing builds tankers and aligned with Kansas.

Airbus builds tankers and aligned with Alabama.

Then there's ...

...

umm ... there's ...

Oh yeah, I see what you mean. All those other companies companies building tankers.

6 posted on 11/23/2011 3:28:59 PM PST by delacoert
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The only saving grace is that Kansas is s “right to work” state.

Though that may be a reason for the union to collude with the government to close the plant.

Mark


7 posted on 11/23/2011 3:32:44 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Evil Slayer
“It’s ... the nature of how those (military) contracts are awarded and won,” Brownback said.

Brownback played by the rules and found out just how ugly that can be. Politics is, and has always been, a dirty game

8 posted on 11/23/2011 3:34:39 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: delacoert
I do not understand your post, but you probably did not understand mine either.

I was suggesting that alignment with States and deals should have nothing to do with the bid on our buying aircraft.

9 posted on 11/23/2011 3:36:48 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Evil Slayer

Maybe the “price” for staying in Wichita, would be for FUBO’s NLRB to pack up and get out of their nonsense with respect to the South Carolina Dreamliner plant.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 3:57:12 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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Maybe the “price” for staying in Wichita, would be for FUBO’s NLRB to pack up and get out of their nonsense with respect to the South Carolina Dreamliner plant.

A: why would Kansas have any control over that, and B: why should Obama care? The Air Force gets the tankers no matter where they're built.

11 posted on 11/23/2011 4:01:54 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Venturer
Gee, I don't know, a convincing bid for a $35 billion contract involving high tech manufacturing employing 10,000 skilled workers would probably include a plan that sorta sketches where all that might happen ... and maybe a company putting together a bid with a plan might talk to the people in states were it might happen ... and maybe taxes and incentives might get discussed ... and maybe politics might get involved ... and maybe congressional votes may play a role.

But hey, why get real when all us voters need to do is be ideological.

12 posted on 11/23/2011 4:03:08 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Evil Slayer
He also said there is no demand for the tanker outside the United States.

You don't suppose price is a factor there?

13 posted on 11/23/2011 4:03:18 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Evil Slayer

Corporations have a fiduciary responsibility to turn a profit. Who knew? And why should a union know this? After all, “it’s irrelevant.” LMAO


14 posted on 11/23/2011 4:13:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obyema 2012 - he has addition deficit disorder... (not my line, but a great one to repeat))
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To: delacoert

I guess things may have changed, but back in the day we had to say when, where and who we’d have running a program when we submitted a proposal. We also evaluated based on such things as facilities, workforce, management, etc. (I worked both sides of the fence).


15 posted on 11/23/2011 4:36:54 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: delacoert

I guess things may have changed, but back in the day we had to say when, where and who we’d have running a program when we submitted a proposal. We also evaluated based on such things as facilities, workforce, management, etc. (I worked both sides of the fence,at different times of course).


16 posted on 11/23/2011 4:37:40 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: pepperdog

Double oops!


17 posted on 11/23/2011 4:39:30 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: SoJoCo; delacoert
"Boeing has already placed work in San Antonio that’s traditionally been done in Wichita, a union official said. And it has moved work from California to a site in Oklahoma City."

Just a hunch, but I'd bet those "new" sites are the former Kelly AFB and the (still) Oklahoma City Air Logistics Center.

Just a hunch.

18 posted on 11/23/2011 4:51:05 PM PST by norton
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To: Evil Slayer

“Hawker Beechraft laying off big time and, now, Boeing possibly leaving Wichita. Not good. “

Boeing leaves Wichita and with the impending cuts the military, Boeing might not see another contract.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 5:26:55 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: pepperdog
Yup. Always has worked that way.

I've been hearing from people in on meetings with commerce dept types that Boeing has been dropping hints that they are leaving Kansas for months now.

20 posted on 11/23/2011 6:38:00 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Evil Slayer

What gives with Wichita?

Has it become a detroit-like cesspool of unions lately?


21 posted on 11/30/2011 11:41:01 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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