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Amensty Will Cost U. S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion
Heritage Foundation ^ | June 6, 2007 | Robert Rector

Posted on 11/23/2011 6:32:03 PM PST by not2worry

Giving amnesty to illegal immigrants will greatly increase long-term costs to the taxpayer. Granting amnesty to illegal immigrants would, over time, increase their use of means-tested welfare, Social Security, and Medicare. Fiscal costs would rise in the intermediate term and increase dramatically when amnesty recipients reach retirement. Although it is difficult to provide a precise estimate, it seems likely that if 10 million adult illegal immigrants currently in the U.S. were granted amnesty, the net retirement cost to government (benefits minus taxes) could be over $2.6 trillion.

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KEYWORDS: acainplanforamnesty; aliens; amensty; amnesty; amnestyplanbycain; cainesty; cainwontdeport; heritage; heritagefoundation; illegalaliens; newtgingrich; robertrector
This is the Heritage Foundation's Report on the Amensty Plan that the Bush Administration Proposed. If Newt's is similar add on inflation and the additional entitlement programs that Obama has added since 2007, and the cost to Taxpayers will be even more.

And we can all attest to how badly Reagan's plan failed. We have more illegals today and we are having to pay for all the social services our Country provides to them for free....but those inhumane ones amoung us who work do have pay reimburse the Government by paying taxes. Another instance of creating a bigger government and putting our Country into debt.

Why in the world would the Taxpayers want to support Amensty? Illegals were given the opportunity 25 years ago through the Reagan plan to fess up. What resulted was a magnet to come to our Country illegally to benefit from our generousity not our being inhumane as suggested by Mr. Newt Gingrich.

1 posted on 11/23/2011 6:32:05 PM PST by not2worry
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To: not2worry

[shrug] We can afford it. We just need to tax the rich and make them pay their fair share. [/LibSpeak]


2 posted on 11/23/2011 6:33:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Roll the stone away, Let the guilty pay, It's Independence Day)
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To: not2worry
Well, well, well...Newt has got the support of the DNC now..I am sure LaRaza is next

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_vrNm4DJoI
3 posted on 11/23/2011 6:35:05 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" @THEHermanCain)
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To: not2worry

It will cost a hell of a lot more than that. The entire government will be made up of DemocRATS, Socialists, Marxists and Communists. (Redundant, I know.)


4 posted on 11/23/2011 6:35:52 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: not2worry

Oh, no big deal really. After all, they’ve earned it. /s

Yeah, but mooching untold trillions up to this point.


5 posted on 11/23/2011 6:37:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: not2worry

Amnesty basically means we’re not going to have borders any more.

The cost of that will be far more than can be measured in dollars.

Of course, one can make the argument that we haven’t had any real borders since approximately the 1980s, but that’s just me.


6 posted on 11/23/2011 6:38:00 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: not2worry

It will cost a lot more than that if you consider how many congressional districts are created by the excess population.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 6:38:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: not2worry
Amnesty Will Cost U. S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion

That's dollars, let's be realistic and figure that cost in precious metals.

8 posted on 11/23/2011 6:38:46 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: not2worry

Don’t forget chain migration. That 10-12 million will multiply real quick.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 6:39:36 PM PST by umgud
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To: not2worry

We will have to pay it. Simple as that.

Sorry but none of these candidates are going to enforce the laws or further secure the border. Even if they say they will, I don’t trust them.

I’ll believe it when I see it. This government has absolutely no intention whatsoever of securing that southern border. I don’t know if it has to do with votes or if they are scared of the cartels or what. But neither party wants to do anything about that problem.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 6:41:49 PM PST by floridarunner01
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Coming soon to the USA:

A major difference in the criminal law in Mexico is the accused is considered guilty until proven innocent.

Start saving your bribe money now!


11 posted on 11/23/2011 6:43:24 PM PST by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: not2worry
Why in the world would the Taxpayers want to support Amnesty?

Why would taxpayers want to support federal government control of everything under the sun?

Why would taxpayers elect 0bama?.....the band plays on.

12 posted on 11/23/2011 6:43:33 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: not2worry
I can't understand why our side constantly gets wrapped around the axle on this issue. All that needs to happen is for the incentives to immigrate illegally to be removed. Most will go.

Instead we insist on ladling on MORE incentives.

13 posted on 11/23/2011 6:45:27 PM PST by skeeter
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To: umgud

To be fair, Newt is assuming the “family” s here already. But you are correct, whatever the number is, it will double before it’s over. It has every time so far.


14 posted on 11/23/2011 6:46:38 PM PST by moehoward
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To: skeeter

There are no disincentives to get anyone to move back to Mexico.


15 posted on 11/23/2011 6:47:17 PM PST by Tolaei1
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To: not2worry

16 posted on 11/23/2011 6:48:25 PM PST by South40
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To: FlingWingFlyer

He didn’t offer citizenship.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 6:50:15 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: not2worry; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ...
RE :”Giving amnesty to illegal immigrants will greatly increase long-term costs to the taxpayer. Granting amnesty to illegal immigrants would, over time, increase their use of means-tested welfare, Social Security, and Medicare. Fiscal costs would rise in the intermediate term and increase dramatically when amnesty recipients reach retirement. Although it is difficult to provide a precise estimate, it seems likely that if 10 million adult illegal immigrants currently in the U.S. were granted amnesty, the net retirement cost to government (benefits minus taxes) could be over $2.6 trillion.

I think I might have posted this article here in 2007 when HF posted it.

The costs of amnesty are never debated or even brought up by the MSM or even on FNC.

18 posted on 11/23/2011 6:50:15 PM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: not2worry

It’s going to be a lot more than that I bet.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 6:52:42 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: not2worry

None of this really matters.

After Obama begins his second term, he will find a way. Obama will find the money.... he will get this done.... and everyone will be damn glad that Newt wasn’t fouling it all up.

Obama or Romney 2012......


20 posted on 11/23/2011 6:53:09 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: not2worry

None of this really matters.

After Obama begins his second term, he will find a way. Obama will find the money.... he will get this done.... and everyone will be damn glad that Newt wasn’t fouling it all up.

Obama or Romney 2012......


21 posted on 11/23/2011 6:54:26 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: not2worry

It will cost way more that 2.6 trillion. It will cost us our nation and heritage. It will put our posterity in peril.


22 posted on 11/23/2011 6:55:00 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: presently no screen name

The ACLU, La Raza and our so called “courts” will do that once something like this is passed. And it won’t be offered. It will be given along with a hefty check from a class action lawsuit.


23 posted on 11/23/2011 7:02:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Easiest way to get rid of the illegals is make them pay taxes. They consume resources, paying taxes will offset it.

I have no problem with illegals staying here. But the wall has to come first, the inability to vote hasbto be included and some other consequences.


24 posted on 11/23/2011 7:04:51 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: not2worry

There is no verifiable data that there are only 10 million, or 11 million illegals in the United States. Illegals don’t call in to report their presence and whereabouts.

All studies made so far - Pew, Census, CIS - rely on assumptions and models that are wide open to subjective guesses and WAGs. All of them. The math majors can explain it to you with matrices and partial differential equations if you have the time and if you are not political science or journalism majors where math is beyond your grasp.

The fact is that they have been using that 11 million figure since around 2003, in spite of all observation that the illegal alien footprint has spread immensely since 2003, from border states to places like Maine, Virginia, Long Island, Minnesota, even Hawaii.

Thus the costs of illegal aliens is far beyond any estimates you can make based on that 11 million number. The penny saved on the cost of labor for that apple you buy at the market is more than cancelled out by the extra welfare, medical, educational, and benefits costs you pay to service the mostly welfare-based aliens.

Newt Gingrich lives in a world where he can give his wife a million dollar jewelry account at Tiffany’s. His mansion does not have any illegals living next door with 10 ladder trucks. His kids aren’t forced to listen to Spanish in classrooms. He doesn’t wait in the emergency room where the illegals get basic primary care, for free. He doesn’t have his multi-million dollar consultant contracts out-competed by a firm using $10/hr off-the-books alien labor.

Sorry Newt, but you represent the 1%. The rest of us who face the illegal alien problem daily are the true 99%.

We ain’t voting for you.


25 posted on 11/23/2011 7:07:01 PM PST by oldbill
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To: not2worry
It won't be called "Amnesty".


26 posted on 11/23/2011 7:09:51 PM PST by Iron Munro (Ben Raines For President)
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To: not2worry; All

There are over 7 billion people in the world.

They all can’t immigrate here.

So we have to choose - which ones get to immigrate here ?

We already have made that choice: those that come here legally.


27 posted on 11/23/2011 7:10:20 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I have no problem with illegals staying here.

I have a major problem with it. Paying taxes and then what? They are unemployed and eat the fat of the land and we end up paying for them and their health care. A large portion of them, IMO, are criminals. We continue to put up with the press #1 - the list is endless. Secure the border while work on getting them out. It needs to start the last week in Jan 2013 - no waiting.
28 posted on 11/23/2011 7:37:02 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: not2worry


29 posted on 11/23/2011 7:37:12 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: not2worry
Pretty damn big IF there Bob…
30 posted on 11/23/2011 7:38:23 PM PST by bksanders (Spewing Forth Vitriol at the Speed of Spit)
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To: oldbill

Right - that 11 or 12 million figure has been thrown around for years and everyone just repeats it. NO ONE knows for sure - it could be 25 million. Most Americans are having less children or no children while paying for schools for them. No one wanted to touch this mess for years - the politicians just gave us more of a mess with their lack of action on this issue.


31 posted on 11/23/2011 7:45:05 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: PieterCasparzen

We should put a halt on any legal immigration until we get our house in order. Maybe by 2014 we will have a better handle on it. Right now we don’t have jobs for Americans.


32 posted on 11/23/2011 7:52:43 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
A large portion of them, IMO, are criminals.

ALL of them are criminals. "Entry without inspection" is a criminal offense. (8USC1324)

For Newt Gingrich, if you get away with a crime long enough, you are home free. Not only free, but you also get a reward - a green card or even citizenship.

Het Newt - if I avoid paying my income taxes for 25 years, am I off the hook? Do I get a reward?

If I was a pedophile before 1986, but am now a good family man, am I off the hook?

33 posted on 11/23/2011 7:55:53 PM PST by oldbill
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To: presently no screen name

“He didn’t offer citizenship.”

He doesn’t have to. He knows FULL WELL that the judges will take care of it. They are simply not going to sit by and watch another HUGE GROUP of Americans being prevented from voting. Heck, the judges today are barley able to prevent CONVICTED FELONS from voting - and now we expect them to be part of preventing a huge group of new Americans from voting?


34 posted on 11/23/2011 8:04:54 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: Gator113

“Obama or Romney 2012......”

Which is it you prefer? Not that it matters much to people that don’t mind being zotted.


35 posted on 11/23/2011 8:06:30 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: not2worry

Bookmark


36 posted on 11/23/2011 9:00:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: sickoflibs
RE: "The costs of amnesty are never debated or even brought up by the MSM or even on FNC."
Good point. To often points someone tries to make are often void of "all the facts". Your point is acknowledge, similar thoughts on that issue.
And again do have a safe and enjoyable Thanks Giving Day.
37 posted on 11/23/2011 9:46:41 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: oldbill

You don’t have to convince me - I thought there might be some sense here and didn’t need to spell everything out. THEY are ALL criminals - that’s a given and doesn’t need to be said as if someone doesn’t know that already. Get a grip! I meant the majority of them are here are not here to start a new life, as Newt presents the grandma, grandkids, church, but criminal activity.


38 posted on 11/23/2011 10:02:57 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BobL

You know what Bob - I have NO idea what to expect anymore. NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE and I’m afraid NOTHING will be done.

And they are coming across our borders as we speak. They kill our guys, IMO, that is terrorism. Our military should be on that border with amno and shoot any mofo that takes one step over the border.

We act like all we need to do is round them up and send them back - how easy do you think that will be. I remember reading an illegal went into the Catholic Church and they harbored her there and we were the bad guys. You think many won’t go there in masses if they heard they are going to be deported? There doesn’t seem to answers because we have enemies within who don’t give a flying ***k about our country as long as they are fuzzy and warm - trying to appear ‘holy’ while harboring criminals.

Some Americans will do anything for a buck - some make them fake ID’s, a company hires them and Mitt hires the company while acting innocent. I read where Motor Vehicle employees were caught giving out driver licenses to those w/false ID’s. They were caught and how many weren’t? Years ago, I remember some politicians and a judge had illegals as hired help. McCain must, also. After all, he said if we don’t hire them our lettuce will be $50 a head. And an AZ rancher got killed by illegals on his own property and AZ voted McCain in again! And years go by, things get worse - now our citizens are being killed and life goes on. They start businesses and undercut legitimate businesses because they have overhead expenses, like taxes! So legitimate business now hire them off the books. Do you have a doable solution?


39 posted on 11/23/2011 10:39:56 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Criminals need to go back. Empty the prisons and send them back. Every illegal who is working needs to have employer sponsorship and put on the books.

Unemployed need to tag up. If they choose to leave families in the US, there are no benefits paid up until the person returns with a valid green card.

Unemployed isn’t an excuse because if they are unemployed they are not taking jobs Americans won’t do. If they are employed, let them get sponsored and on the books so they can pay taxes.

And none of this happens until the wall is built.


40 posted on 11/24/2011 6:18:53 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: sickoflibs; not2worry; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Liz; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ...

” The costs of amnesty are never debated or even brought up by the MSM or even on FNC. “

Hey, how bout that ?

Fox sux !


41 posted on 11/24/2011 8:21:10 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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