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Gay teen murder illustrates schools' challenge
Associated Press ^ | 11/24/11 | GREG RISLING

Posted on 11/24/2011 10:31:47 AM PST by madprof98

LOS ANGELES (AP) — There were many missed opportunities to prevent the murder of a 15-year-old gay student at E.O. Green Junior High School in Oxnard.

Teachers and students saw a simmering feud between Brandon McInerney and Larry King but said they were either ignored by administrators or did little or nothing to intervene. King's mother said she pleaded with school officials to help tone down her son's increasingly flamboyant behavior. One teacher encouraged King to explore his sexuality and gave him a dress.

Nearly four years after McInerney, then 14, shot King in the head before stunned classmates, plenty of questions remain about what went wrong and what can be learned to prevent future tragedies.

King's death illustrates the difficulty schools have balancing a gay student's civil rights with teaching tolerance to those who feel threatened by or uncomfortable about someone who's different. It also highlighted the importance of setting clear policies to eliminate confusion among educators.

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King's mother, Dawn King, said she met with school officials four days before the February 2008 shooting hoping they would help tone down her son's behavior. She said she was told King had a civil right to explore his sexual identity.

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A bill introduced by Rep. Jared Polis, D-Colo., is pending before the House Education and Workforce Committee that would prohibit discrimination in public schools against lesbian and gay students.

If passed, violating the Student Non-Discrimination Act could lead to districts losing federal funding. Polis said he had King and other teens like him in mind when he wrote the bill.

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The whole article takes pains to explain that this kid was killed precisely because his public school encouraged him to act out in ways repulsive to the other students. Then it closes with the Dem-proposed law requiring all public schools to do exactly the same thing.
1 posted on 11/24/2011 10:31:49 AM PST by madprof98
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One teacher encouraged King to explore his sexuality and gave him a dress.

The blind leading the blind.

2 posted on 11/24/2011 10:33:09 AM PST by PGR88
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To: madprof98

Provocation: it benefits politician when sexual narcissists give themselves an A+ despite poor performance.


3 posted on 11/24/2011 10:34:05 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: madprof98
a gay student's civil rights

How are homosexuals' "civil rights" any different than anyone else's civil rights? Don't we all have civil rights?

4 posted on 11/24/2011 10:34:30 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: madprof98
McInerney, then 14, shot King in the head before stunned classmates

Brandon spoke in class today.

5 posted on 11/24/2011 10:34:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: madprof98
McInerney had reached an emotional breaking point after King made repeated, unwanted sexual advances toward him and other boys

Just wondering how it would be handled if this was a girl being subjected to repeated sexual advances.

7 posted on 11/24/2011 10:38:20 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: All

Maybe its me but...why is a 15 year old homosexual male wearing a dress and high heels allowed to be in 8th grade class to begin with?


8 posted on 11/24/2011 10:40:08 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: madprof98

Sooo,
It’s ok for a homosexual to be pushy in coming on to someone yet were I a normal hetrosexual to come on to aggressively towards a female it is wrong??


9 posted on 11/24/2011 10:40:59 AM PST by Joe Boucher (FUBO ya quota boy ( Real conservative or go fish, Sooo, that leaves you out Mitt))
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To: madprof98
On the Killing of Larry King
10 posted on 11/24/2011 10:41:08 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: ElkGroveDan

“... if this was a girl being repeated sexual advances”.

I have wondered that myself, ElkGroveDan. I’m not condoning murder but you know that the straight boy was ridiculed over these advances. After one such proposition (and no being the answer), any more sexual attention is bullying and harassing IMHO. The school tried to play the PC game and it pushed the envelope to homicide.


11 posted on 11/24/2011 10:41:37 AM PST by momtothree
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To: ElkGroveDan

If a 15 year old white boy was making unwanted sexual advances on a 14 year old black girl and she shot him...would the lefts reaction in this case (and the girl’s sentence) be the same I wonder?


12 posted on 11/24/2011 10:42:10 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: madprof98

“King’s mother said she pleaded with school officials to help tone down her son’s increasingly flamboyant behavior. One teacher encouraged King to explore his sexuality and gave him a dress.”

This could be the Department of Education’s mission statement.


13 posted on 11/24/2011 10:43:59 AM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: madprof98
King's death illustrates the difficulty schools have balancing a gay student's civil rights with teaching tolerance to those who feel threatened by or uncomfortable about someone who's different.

People kill each other for countless reasons. Do we know this specifically was the only motive? I'll bet not.

14 posted on 11/24/2011 10:45:12 AM PST by skeeter
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To: PGR88

“One teacher encouraged King to explore his sexuality and gave him a dress.

Nearly four years after McInerney, then 14, shot King in the head before stunned classmates, plenty of questions remain about what went wrong and what can be learned to prevent future tragedies.”

Don’t give freaks like this more cowbell to explore the space with by sexually harassing and bothering other students. Keep your deviancy to yourself because no one else is interested in it.

The principal should be held accountable for his actions.


15 posted on 11/24/2011 10:46:52 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PGR88
The blind leading the blind.

It sounds like they turned this kid into their own little social experiment to see how far they could push the envelope, and the kid paid with his life for them to find out.

16 posted on 11/24/2011 10:47:05 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: madprof98
One teacher said she gave King her daughter's homecoming dress. Another said he did nothing when King paraded around in makeup and high heels in front of McInerney the day before the shooting because he assumed a school administrator who had watched what was going on would take care of the situation.

The school administrator engineered her own private Matthew Shepard for the purpose of advancing her own private homosexual agenda.

She should be in jail.

17 posted on 11/24/2011 10:47:20 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: PGR88

“One teacher encouraged King to explore his sexuality and gave him a dress.

The blind leading the blind. “

Perhaps one could accurately substitute for “The blind leading the blind” - “The Queer trolling for fresh meat.”.

Just wonderin’.

We are, after all, discussing a public school dealing with homosexuality in the Age of Obama.


18 posted on 11/24/2011 10:47:48 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: madprof98
King's mother said she pleaded with school officials to help tone down her son's increasingly flamboyant behavior. One teacher encouraged King to explore his sexuality and gave him a dress.

But if he'd wanted to wear an American flag t-shirt on Cinco de Mayo, they'd be all over him.

19 posted on 11/24/2011 10:48:59 AM PST by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: madprof98

“King’s death illustrates the difficulty schools have balancing a gay student’s civil rights with teaching tolerance to those who feel threatened by or uncomfortable about someone who’s different.”

It is not a civil right to sexually harass others whether homosexual or heterosexual. Now if you sent the boy to gay bar the homosexuals there wouldn’t mind.


20 posted on 11/24/2011 10:49:19 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: madprof98

Male to male sexual harassment is “exploring your sexual identity.” Male to female is time to send the evil male to jail and get a nice settlement for the victim. Sexual harassment is wrong and shoul be delt with in a rational manner. Zero tolerance doesn’t seem to work either. Too bad we don’t have morals anymore.


21 posted on 11/24/2011 10:51:09 AM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Just wondering how it would be handled if this was a girl being subjected to repeated sexual advances.
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Spot on ! Exactly!

If this had been a girl who had been harassed by a male student how would it have been handled?

22 posted on 11/24/2011 10:51:15 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: madprof98
I guess the LA Public School System will have to be sued into oblivion for aiding and abetting of the murder of its gay and transgendered students. This policy is an active solicitation for murder by the victims of this special, protected victim group.

Perhaps the best place to start is the LA Board of Education. Get thousands of irate citizens, a lot of rope, and there's plenty of traffic signals and trees to go around. After cleaning house there, move on to the school administration and the teacher’s union thugs.

23 posted on 11/24/2011 10:51:41 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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If passed, violating the Student Non-Discrimination Act could lead to districts losing federal funding. Polis said he had King and other teens like him in mind when he wrote the bill.

Gay "gunwalking". The adminstration and staff encouraged the kid to be sexually agressive, creating the situtation that would allow for a sympathic response to the legislation.

24 posted on 11/24/2011 10:52:38 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: PGR88

Uniforms.


25 posted on 11/24/2011 10:53:05 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: madprof98

It’s tough to work up sympathy for a parent who “pleaded with school officials” rather than simply get her son the hell out of there. The government schools are no place for the children of loving parents. ...By the way, I saw no mention of a father in this story.


26 posted on 11/24/2011 10:53:11 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: PGR88

One teacher encouraged King to explore his sexuality and gave him a dress.
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Not in a ‘legal’ sense, BUT,
if the kid would have said he felt like committing suicide, would the same teacher give him a pistol?
OR
If the kid said he was being bullied would the teacher give him a shotgun?

In essence, one solution fits all for teacher.


27 posted on 11/24/2011 10:55:01 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) If govt involved, the more outlandish a scheme appears, the truer it probably is.)
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To: icwhatudo
Maybe its me but...

Yes! It's you!!
A revolution has taken place around you and you haven't even noticed; the world has moved on, the discussion has reached a different stage.

The only productive approach to this issue is to figure out how to prevent a repeat of the catastrophe when this nightmare is at long last over.

28 posted on 11/24/2011 10:55:34 AM PST by stormhill
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To: MasterGunner01

Your ideas are good, but I think sometimes you just leave a toilet like Los Angeles alone. Just let the animals eat each other up and crap each other out until it’s time to press the handle and yell, “Fire in the hole!”.


29 posted on 11/24/2011 10:58:29 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: madprof98
King's mother, Dawn King, said she met with school officials four days before the February 2008 shooting hoping they would help tone down her son's behavior.
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Where was this boy's father? Maybe that is the fundamental reason there was a problem with sexuality in the first place.

What about the murderer? Where we the men in **his** family? Were there any? Perhaps a very private and firm talk with the flamingly flamboyant King by the men of the murderer's family would have put an end to it.

Both families were relying on the socialist K-12 schools to raise their kids. There was an extreme failure on both sides of the men in these families to intervene.

30 posted on 11/24/2011 11:00:54 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: stormhill
The only productive approach to this issue is to figure out how to prevent a repeat of the catastrophe when this nightmare is at long last over.

What did Rome do after Caligula?

31 posted on 11/24/2011 11:00:59 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: icwhatudo
Maybe its me but...why is a 15 year old homosexual male wearing a dress and high heels allowed to be in 8th grade class to begin with?
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Where are the men in this boy's family. Why would they let him do it?

32 posted on 11/24/2011 11:02:38 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: madprof98
King's death illustrates the difficulty schools have balancing a gay student's civil rights with teaching tolerance to those who feel threatened by or uncomfortable about someone who's different. It also highlighted the importance of setting clear policies to eliminate confusion among educators.

Here's a modest proposal:
Try balancing the civil rights of those that feel threatened by gay sexual harassment with teaching prudence to gays.

33 posted on 11/24/2011 11:03:06 AM PST by stormhill
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To: madprof98
Larry King was openly gay, but he shouldn't have to be killed. Where was the sperm donor? I bet he didn't have one.

Just curious...did his mom ever thought of getting him help?

34 posted on 11/24/2011 11:03:47 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
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To: Lancey Howard

It didn’t end after Caligula. By some measures Nero was just as bad.


35 posted on 11/24/2011 11:04:56 AM PST by stormhill
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To: madprof98

If this had been a boy chasing a girl, the school would have put uts foot down.


36 posted on 11/24/2011 11:05:52 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: madprof98

It wasn’t the schools’ challenge....it was their incompotence.


37 posted on 11/24/2011 11:07:22 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: icwhatudo

Why is a 15 year old in 8th grade..if you start school at 5, by the time you arein.8th you should be 13. I was 12 in 8th.


38 posted on 11/24/2011 11:09:30 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
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To: icwhatudo

Why is a 15 year old in 8th grade..if you start school at 5, by the time you arein.8th you should be 13. I was 12 in 8th.


39 posted on 11/24/2011 11:09:48 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
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To: ExCTCitizen; All
This excerpt from Wikipedia may clarify the boy's family situation:

King was adopted at age two by Gregory and Dawn King. His biological father had abandoned his wife, and his mother was a drug addict who failed to care for her son properly. King was prescribed medication for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, and according to Gregory King, Larry had been diagnosed with reactive attachment disorder, a condition in which a child fails to develop relationships with his or her caregivers. He was also forced to repeat the first grade of schooling. By the third grade, King began to be bullied by his fellow students due to his effeminacy and openness about being gay, having come out at ten years old.

At the age of twelve, King was placed on probation for theft and vandalism. In November 2007, he was removed from his adoptive home and placed in a group home and treatment center named Casa Pacifica after he alleged that his adoptive father was physically abusing him, a charge Gregory King denied.

He was in foster care when he was killed.

40 posted on 11/24/2011 11:13:14 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: ExCTCitizen

I was 12 when I was in the 8th grade. Turned 13 a few days after graduation. To think a 15 year old homosexual could be allowed to make sexual advances on kids in the 8th grade is scary.


41 posted on 11/24/2011 11:17:56 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: ExCTCitizen
Larry King was openly gay, but he shouldn't have to be killed.

Read the article linked in #10. There is more to the story.

42 posted on 11/24/2011 11:18:11 AM PST by skeeter
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King was adopted at age two ...

Thank you for the background. This kid had a lot going against him from the very beginning. Sad.

43 posted on 11/24/2011 11:20:52 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: madprof98

Parents should just bail out:

http://savecalifornia.com/


44 posted on 11/24/2011 11:24:04 AM PST by goldi (')
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To: MasterGunner01

“I guess the LA Public School System will have to be sued into oblivion...”

I agree that the Lost Angeles Unified School District has many problems, this occured in Ventura, California which is not part of LAUSD.


45 posted on 11/24/2011 11:26:38 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: madprof98
If it had been a straight male making unwanted advances or stalking a female the law would have been called in.

Forcing a straight kid to suffer the advances led to this.

It's not going to work in the military either.

46 posted on 11/24/2011 11:27:46 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: haroldeveryman
King's mother said she pleaded with school officials to help tone down her son's increasingly flamboyant behavior.

Any school official who tries to put the brakes on gay behavior would be out of a job, and subject to an ACLU lawsuit.

47 posted on 11/24/2011 11:35:58 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Joe Boucher

Your understanding is complete


48 posted on 11/24/2011 12:13:52 PM PST by Shimmer1 (National Procrastination Day has been postponed until tomorrow.)
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To: aimhigh

Larry King had TWO mommies.

Gee you think that they might just have a bit to do with his behavior?


49 posted on 11/24/2011 12:16:03 PM PST by troy McClure
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To: aimhigh
Any school official who tries to put the brakes on gay behavior would be out of a job, and subject to an ACLU lawsuit.
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Let's examine the ethical and moral stance of someone who would seek this job. What if we rephrase this?

Any concentration camp guard who tries to put the brakes on shoving Jews into the gas chamber would be out of a job, and subject to Nazi court martial trial.

Personally.....I will not have teacher or principle of one our socialist K-12 schools as a friend. Good people don't willingly seek a job that forces children into a godless environment. And...Our socialist K-12 schools are **socialist**! Merely by attending children risk learning that a government that gives them tuition-free socialist schooling can also give them lots of socialist goodies.

Good teachers and principals wouldn't do that. Evil or stupid teachers and principals would.

50 posted on 11/24/2011 12:23:46 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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