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Cancer Center bans all Christian symbols of Christmas
American Family Association ^ | 11/17/2011 | afa.net

Posted on 11/25/2011 8:58:08 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama

A South Carolina cancer center that gave Santa Claus the boot has reversed its decision, but said they will ban any Christmas decorations that are religious in nature - including the Nativity.

The Hollings Cancer Center in Charleston, SC, created a firestorm of yuletide controversy after they told a volunteer that he would not be allowed to dress up as Santa Claus, according to FoxNews.

Their Santa ban lasted about two days before they reversed course.

"Perhaps we stumbled here," Hollings spokeswoman Vicky Agnew said. "We are very well aware that Santa is not a religious figure, but we are a state institution and we wanted to tone down the overt commercial and any religious aspects to it."

Did you catch that? A cancer treatment center wants to "tone down" any religious aspects of Christmas!

So Santa gets a reprieve - but religious-themed Christmas decorations do not.

"That still stands," Agnew said. "We've got a diverse population here and a lot of folks celebrate the season differently – or don't celebrate it."

Hollings will not allow any religious symbols - at all.

"No Nativity scenes," Agnew said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: christmas; christmascancer; hollingscancercenter
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Doesn't surprise me that a cancer center named after Fritz Hollings would ban religious decorations. Typical liberal - celebrate Christmas by excluding Christ! They just don't have a clue that you can't have one without the other.
1 posted on 11/25/2011 8:58:16 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama
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To: 2nd amendment mama

The worse aspect of the matter is that spiritual strength is the single most important element in curing cancer. This is another death trap provided by your friendly government gulag.


2 posted on 11/25/2011 9:01:05 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Government must be taken back from the thieves who have stolen it.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Where do they think people go after they die if not to Christ.. or don’t they believe people have a soul? This would of course explain much of their ideology.


3 posted on 11/25/2011 9:02:54 AM PST by Track9
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“...will ban any Christmas decorations that are religious in nature..”

Needs to ban trees, the colors red and green, St. Nicholas, stars on top of the trees, Christmas carols...


4 posted on 11/25/2011 9:03:48 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Who do they think heals people of their cancer?

They can’t do it by themselves — God is the ultimate healer.


5 posted on 11/25/2011 9:04:18 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

LIEberalism and political correctness are cancers unto themselves.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 9:04:56 AM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Well, not surprising. Political correctness trumps every other consideration.

I’m still slow on the uptake about the political correctness and Christmas decorations and celebrations. I have yet to meet anyone of a non-Christian faith such as Judaism who is offended by displays of Christmas. Yet the liberals tell us that people of other faiths or no faith are offended by Christmas displays. I’ve had many Jewish people wish me a Merry Christmas, not a happy holiday, even though they don’t celebrate it.

I think that the leftists think that people of other faith or no faith should be offended by displays of Christms, whereas those of other faiths really are not so offended.


7 posted on 11/25/2011 9:05:18 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I’m assuming nobody working for the Cancer Center has a Christmas Holiday with pay.


8 posted on 11/25/2011 9:05:42 AM PST by AU72
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To: 2nd amendment mama

This is just plain cruel. I can’t believe they’d do this, even after all the research that has shown that prayer and faith play a strong part in recovery from cancer.


9 posted on 11/25/2011 9:06:14 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
"Congress shall make no law governing the establishment of religion OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF."

WHY is the SECOND part of that Statement FORGOTTEN???

10 posted on 11/25/2011 9:06:47 AM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I guess Festivus is more up their alley.

I think I’ll try to sneak in a Chanukah menorah and see how they react! LOL!


11 posted on 11/25/2011 9:07:31 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Doubling down on stupid.


12 posted on 11/25/2011 9:07:31 AM PST by null and void (This is day 1039 of America's Obamavacation from reality.)
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To: AU72

THAT was my thought, too....NO HOLI Day pay for you!


13 posted on 11/25/2011 9:07:50 AM PST by goodnesswins (Being Thankful I was born in the great U S of A!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t think it’s that they’re actually “offended”—I think the leftists want to crush the Christian spirit. I don’t think they’re going to succeed.


14 posted on 11/25/2011 9:10:04 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Surprised that South Carolinians are letting this happen in their State. They’re pretty much the buckle of the Bible Belt.


15 posted on 11/25/2011 9:13:00 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I certainly hope then that all their employees work on December 25 (no double time pay or anything like that), I wouldn’t want them to somehow acknowledge that day as Christmas ...


16 posted on 11/25/2011 9:15:22 AM PST by machman
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To: MuttTheHoople

Introduce legislation to defund and see how this works or divert their funds to faith-based charities (The SC has upheld government funds for such charities)


17 posted on 11/25/2011 9:17:51 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: ZULU
WHY is the SECOND part of that Statement FORGOTTEN???Because it doesn't fit in with their agenda to have the "State" replace God.
18 posted on 11/25/2011 9:20:24 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Santa Claus? Have they not heard of Saint Nick? One in the same I believe.


19 posted on 11/25/2011 9:20:24 AM PST by RC2
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Duh....that should have been:

WHY is the SECOND part of that Statement FORGOTTEN???

Because it doesn't fit in with their agenda to have the "State" replace God.

20 posted on 11/25/2011 9:22:03 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: RC2

They’re too stupid to make the connection!


21 posted on 11/25/2011 9:24:51 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Huskrrrr

re: Needs to ban trees, the colors red and green, St. Nicholas, stars on top of the trees, Christmas carols...

You are right. Nearly all of the symbols of Christmas have religious connections. Even the supposedly neutral word “holiday” is religious. It means holy day. Holly and ivy are religious, as the lyrics of the Christmas song, “The Holly and the Ivy” explain:

1. The holly and the ivy,
Now both are full well grown
Of all the trees that are in the wood,
The holly bears the crown.

Chorus
Oh, the rising of the sun,
The running of the deer.
The playing of the merry organ,
Sweet singing in the choir

2. The holly bears a blossom
As white as lily flower;
And Mary bore sweet Jesus Christ
To be our sweet Savior.

3. The holly bears a berry
As red as any blood;
And Mary bore sweet Jesus Christ
To do poor sinners good.

4. The holly bears a prickle
As sharp as any thorn;
And Mary bore sweet Jesus Christ
On Christmas day in the morn.

5. The holly bears a bark
As bitter as any gall;
And Mary bore sweet Jesus Christ
For to redeem us all.

6. The holly and the ivy,
When they are both full grown,
Of all the trees that are in the wood,
The holly bears the crown.

7. The rising of the sun
And the running of the deer,
The playing of the merry organ,
Sweet singing in the choir.


22 posted on 11/25/2011 9:24:56 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I doubt Hollings Cancer Center Chairman, Dr. Andrew Kraft

or Medical University of SC (MUSC) president Dr. Raymond Greenberg

would mind.

23 posted on 11/25/2011 9:31:03 AM PST by SC DOC
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To: Huskrrrr

I’d bet that all donations to that organization by Christians will get their attention.


24 posted on 11/25/2011 9:31:56 AM PST by RC2
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To: Salvation
Who do they think heals people of their cancer?

The all knowing, all powerwful, all wise obama. or The Great White Father in Washington. Afterall, he took of the Indians.

25 posted on 11/25/2011 9:37:47 AM PST by sport
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To: 2nd amendment mama
SANTA Claus? SANTA? as in Spanish for "SAINT"?

These people are not only stupid, they are criminally ignorant. Happy Holydays to them.

26 posted on 11/25/2011 9:39:26 AM PST by William Tell
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Santa is not religious! Far fom it!


27 posted on 11/25/2011 9:45:58 AM PST by rawhide
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To: 2nd amendment mama

You can say “Santa”, but not “Saint”

Imagine banning Christ from a center that sorely needs His healing prsence. and which is probably prayed for by 90% or more of its visitors


28 posted on 11/25/2011 9:55:53 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: silverleaf

OK, ban Christmas.

But then I want to see all those state workers WORKING
on Dec. 25 (wouldn’t want anyone to get the idea
that the state is condoning a religion...)


29 posted on 11/25/2011 10:12:39 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

What a bunch of intolerant haters they are.


30 posted on 11/25/2011 10:15:11 AM PST by Betty Jane
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To: Huskrrrr

“Needs to ban trees, the colors red and green...”

Green is permissible, it’s a big color in Fislam....

/s


31 posted on 11/25/2011 10:20:03 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Deny Him before man and He will deny you before His Father.


32 posted on 11/25/2011 10:23:49 AM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

My brother sees Christmas displays with religious themes in Thailand, even!


33 posted on 11/25/2011 10:27:35 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Why is it a state institution? We need to privatize healthcare, all of it.


34 posted on 11/25/2011 10:50:33 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AU72
I’m assuming nobody working for the Cancer Center has a Christmas Holiday with pay.

I assume there are NO other religious icons OF ANY KIND also.

35 posted on 11/25/2011 12:29:42 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

The ‘state’ will NEVER replace God to those who are in GOD!


36 posted on 11/25/2011 12:30:59 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Liberal/progressives/atheists are offended by Christmas because Christmas is a powerful offense against atheism.

The important question is whether one is constitutionally protected from being offended. It seems to me that offensive speech is the only type that needs protection.

37 posted on 11/25/2011 12:36:19 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Government must be taken back from the thieves who have stolen it.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; crusadersoldier; Ellzeena; Anvilhead; stonehouse01; Goreknowshowtocheat; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


38 posted on 11/25/2011 12:38:31 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Almost like banning food in a food bank.

Sad..


39 posted on 11/25/2011 12:41:35 PM PST by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: Salvation

Amen to this post


40 posted on 11/25/2011 12:54:31 PM PST by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: 2nd amendment mama
...but Christmas ***IS*** a religious holiday....
41 posted on 11/25/2011 1:54:13 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

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...but Christmas ***IS*** a religious holiday....
***
Only sometimes, and only for Christians.

For the rest of them, not so much.


42 posted on 11/25/2011 2:05:01 PM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (Member of the First Church of Christ, I am Catholic)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; All
Read into the 1963 Congressional Record:

45 Goals of Communism

Bringing this up to date it should read: PC Goals of the Leftist Loons….

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture...."

While your at it look at the other goals and see how many have taken place in the U.S since this came out nearly 50 years ago.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

43 posted on 11/25/2011 2:50:49 PM PST by QT3.14
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To: 2nd amendment mama
This society continues to abandon God - little wonder that that the times are so evil.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
44 posted on 11/25/2011 2:54:39 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

>>we wanted to tone down the overt commercial and any religious aspects to it.”

Without the religious aspect, Christmas is just a “shopping season”.

Then take away the commercial aspect and it is just another federal holiday that has no meaning, like MLK Day.


45 posted on 11/25/2011 5:42:25 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Banning Christ from Christmas is weird.


46 posted on 11/25/2011 5:50:48 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Louis Foxwell
The worse aspect of the matter is that spiritual strength is the single most important element in curing cancer. This is another death trap provided by your friendly government gulag.

Yea something stinks real bad here. Most doctors consider a persons faith in GOD to be very important in healing. But it seems the center was named after an arch liberal who worshiped the powers of government more than realizing our Constitution allows one to freely worship. Sad really sad.

47 posted on 11/25/2011 6:09:04 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Do they seriously not understand what CHRISTmas is?

If the Christian families that use the cancer center could afford to switch to another one, or at least threaten to, they should do it in a heartbeat. The nativity would go up next week. If I had cancer I would seek out a Catholic cancer treating hospital, personally.

I was in an ER once, again at a Catholic hospital because I am Catholic, and a man in the next room was going crazy — huge guy in some sort of frenzy. He suddenly stopped freaking out when he saw Jesus on the wall and said if this place is ok with him it's ok with me and he stopped long enough for them to be able to sedate him. So Jesus can work in hospitals in real time— I saw it happen!

48 posted on 11/25/2011 6:12:22 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Do they seriously not understand what CHRISTmas is?

If the Christian families that use the cancer center could afford to switch to another one, or at least threaten to, they should do it in a heartbeat. The nativity would go up next week. If I had cancer I would seek out a Catholic cancer treating hospital, personally.

I was in an ER once, again at a Catholic hospital because I am Catholic, and a man in the next room was going crazy — huge guy in some sort of frenzy. He suddenly stopped freaking out when he saw Jesus on the wall and said if this place is ok with him it's ok with me and he stopped long enough for them to be able to sedate him. So Jesus can work in hospitals in real time— I saw it happen!

49 posted on 11/25/2011 6:12:43 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Did “Fritz” Hollings tell them to do this? People in SC still have a soft spot for Fritz.


50 posted on 11/26/2011 7:44:08 AM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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