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Cain’s Assertion That He Could Win Over Black Voters Is Dismissed By Analysts
Washington Post ^ | November 25, 2011 | Vanessa Williams

Posted on 11/25/2011 9:27:38 AM PST by Steelfish

Cain’s Assertion That He Could Win Over Black Voters Is Dismissed By Analysts

Vanessa Williams November 24

Herman Cain’s turn atop the polls in the contest for the Republican presidential nomination captured the attention of journalists and pundits and sparked excitement among grass-roots conservative activists.

But is it really possible that he — a black man who overcame poverty in the segregated South to become a wealthy entrepreneur and front-runner in the GOP race — would be the one to bring African American voters back to their original political home?

Cain seems to think so. In a mailer sent to Iowa voters recently, the candidate says “as a descendent of slaves I can lead the Republican party to victory by garnering a large share of the black vote, something that has not been done since Dwight Eisenhower garnered 41 percent of the black vote in 1956.”

It is a proposition that was quickly dismissed by political scholars and analysts, including some members of Cain’s party. Although he has done better than any other black Republican presidential candidate in terms of attracting support, few believe Cain could snare a sizable number of black voters in a general election, especially against President Obama.

“If he’s talking about 41 percent of black voters in the Republican primary, he might be right,” Michael Dawson, an African American political science professor at the University of Chicago, said with a chuckle. But in a general election against President Obama, who got 95 percent of the black vote in 2008 and remains popular among African Americans, Dawson said Cain “would be lucky to get 10 percent” of the black vote.

Besides being remarkable for its optimistic electoral calculation, Cain’s claim is unusual because he has made no special effort to appeal directly to black voters.

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To: cripplecreek

I agree with you, there will be many black voters that will vote for Cain.


41 posted on 11/25/2011 11:18:20 AM PST by dforest
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To: TitansAFC

One thing is certain. Newt won’t be able to pull any black voters.

Cain will get quite a few. Those that like Alveda King and many conservative black people.


42 posted on 11/25/2011 11:22:25 AM PST by dforest
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To: Steelfish
Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

”Herman

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

Click on the cane, (No Pizza.)

43 posted on 11/25/2011 12:00:16 PM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
>>>>>.. Cain might believe he’ll garner a larger share of the black vote in a head-to-head match-up against President Obama, this month’s NBC/WSJ poll — which had an oversample of 400 African-American respondents — tells a different story.
In a hypothetical general election matchup, according to the poll, Obama gets support from 93 percent of African Americans, while Cain gets just 6 percent.
Against Romney, Obama performs similarly among black voters.

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Since FDR Democrats have been hoodwinking many blacks with traditional and conservative backgrounds into voting for them. If Obama hoodwinked 96% of blacks to vote for him in 2012, Cain could get lucky and get 15%, even 20%. First he has to win the nomination.

44 posted on 11/25/2011 12:04:02 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: meatloaf
He is really the only one who can go into the Black Churches and speak directly to the issues. Who else can go eye ball to eye ball with any credibility to the black man and say you are worse off now with zer0 and it won't get any better.
He has more street credibility than Jackson, Sharpton or zer0.
He has a history of winning. He has one wife, and Gloria's sock puppet has vanished.
45 posted on 11/25/2011 12:15:16 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Steelfish
Wow what an elitist pile this article is.

"Analysts, political insiders, and scholars say"

Well thank you experts for speaking for every black person in America. Guess that settles it.

They are terrified of Cain. Precisely because he would wake up some lifetime black Democrat voters and lure them out of the closet.
46 posted on 11/25/2011 12:16:22 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blacks prefer to vote for the oreo cookie if each package comes with a trinket or a prize.


47 posted on 11/25/2011 12:36:27 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: buccaneer81
re: Black culture despises homosexuality. In my state of Ohio, we had a Constitutional Amendment on the ballot to ban gay marriage. It passed with 68% of the vote total and 90% of the black vote.

When issues are separated, as in the amendment you mentioned, yes, blacks will vote according to conviction. But when it comes to voting Democrat vs Republican, convictions appear to carry little weight. It is the same with abortion. Blacks have consistently been surveyed to be more pro-life than whites. But blacks consistently vote for candidates who are pro-abortion over candidates who are pro-life. When it comes to abortion, you can't get more extreme than Obama, who has totally supported late term and partial birth abortions. But his stand on abortion doesn't matter to the average black voter, even good church-going Christians.

48 posted on 11/25/2011 1:00:47 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan
Read the rest of my post. Bush got 18% of the Ohio black vote BECAUSE of the anti-gay issue on the ballot. It drew enough independent and conservative blacks out who normally would have stayed home. Once in the booth, they voted for Bush.

Local pundits agreed that there was no other explanation for the unprecedented black vote for Bush.

Believe me, if it were a proven fact that Obama is gay, he would be a pariah in the black community.

49 posted on 11/25/2011 1:09:03 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
But Bush was not running against a black candidate in the Democrat party. Do you really think that Bush would have received 18% of the black vote if Obama, who openly supports homosexual causes had been running? I don't think so.

I sincerely hope you are right in your assessment. I just am not seeing a diminishing of support for Obama among blacks. After 3 years of Obama and his destructive policies, his support among blacks is virtually the same. When I talk to my black friends and associates, they act like Obama has performed miracles in the past 3 years. They do not see any problems whatsoever with man. Any criticisms are quickly attributed to racism. That's it. No need to think about it. No need to hold Obama accountable for anything. He inherited all the problems, etc, etc, but has done an amazing job and should be reelected.

50 posted on 11/25/2011 1:36:14 PM PST by Nevadan
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51 posted on 11/25/2011 10:34:19 PM PST by MitchellC (Of course I support Herman Cain. I'm a conservative.)
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To: Windflier

I think there are conservative, Christian black voters who will vote for him in the privacy of the voting booth.... but will tell their lib friends and family members they voted for Obama. That is what the Dems fear.


52 posted on 11/25/2011 10:44:12 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: battlecry
Well, in the state where I live, MD, you have to be a registered republican to vote on the GOP primary.

I think this article looks beyond the GOP primary.

My bet is many black folks now realize how bad a shot electing Barack Obama was at establishing the idea that a black man has the ability to execute the office of President of the United States with any degree of competence. I think they would be thrilled to be granted a mulligan by GOP primary voters.

53 posted on 11/25/2011 10:58:15 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: TitansAFC; fieldmarshaldj; LS; federal__reserve; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Clintonfatigued
he would actually do the impossible task of bringing out more black voters for Obama than McCain did.

That's the most absurd thing I've read in a while.

Obama maxed out the black vote in 2008. If you were black and didn't vote for Obama in 2008, you almost certainly aren't going to vote for Obama in 2012.

Cain would not only garner less of the black vote than the other candidates

Utterly ridiculous. Gingrich, Romney, and Perry are exactly the kind of Bush-esque, rich white elites that black Democrats picture all Republicans to be. Those types are easily dismissed by blacks (Democrats in general actually) in a way that Herman Cain could never be.

Again, as I've said on another thread: the worst case scenario with Cain and blacks is that Cain does no better than other Republicans would have, but with Obama actually having to blow some of his resources to make sure of it. That is a net plus for us.

And I'll add to that here: if Obama and/or his proxies go full-on 'Uncle Tom treatment' on Cain, it would probably gain Cain massive sympathy with whites, who Obama is almost fatally damaged with at this point as it is.
54 posted on 11/25/2011 11:07:41 PM PST by MitchellC (Of course I support Herman Cain. I'm a conservative.)
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To: MitchellC; TitansAFC; fieldmarshaldj; LS; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Clintonfatigued

The write of this article is from Washington Post. Consider the source. And read it with many grains of salt.

And if Cain has no chance to win black votes, why are they writing articles about it and dampen his chances in the primaries? You would think they would encourage his nomination so Obama could defeat him easily.

Rest assured, the left is more scared of Cain than any of the other establishment white republicans. Cain endangers their most reliable voting block.

Lastly, the MSM has volumes of material handy to demolish Mitt and Newt, after they are nominated. With Cain, the best they have is Gloria Allred, who has now gone into hibernation along with Mz Bialek soon as the most famous anti-defamation lawyer Lin Wood shows up in Cain campaign.


55 posted on 11/25/2011 11:33:55 PM PST by federal__reserve (Only Herman Cain could break up Barack's 95% black voting block down to 75-80%.)
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To: antceecee

Ah yes, the stealth DINO vote. I don’t know how much of that goes on, but I’m sure it’s a factor. Herman will surely pick up those people.


56 posted on 11/26/2011 7:43:02 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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