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Obama remains unclear on gun control
Times Union ^ | Nov. 24, 2011 | Erica Werner

Posted on 11/25/2011 9:33:24 AM PST by LRVision

They are fuzzy about some issues but the Republican presidential candidates leave little doubt about where they stand on gun rights.

President Barack Obama, on the other hand, is virtually silent on the issue.

Obama's history in support of strict gun control measures prior to becoming president makes it difficult for him to claim he's a Second Amendment champion, even though he signed a bill allowing people to take loaded guns into national parks. At the same time, he's apparently decided that his record backing gun safety is nothing to boast of, either, perhaps because of the power of the gun lobby.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bho44; bhoagenda; bhobanglist; elections; guncontrol; obama
One more important reason Obama must be defeated.
1 posted on 11/25/2011 9:33:35 AM PST by LRVision
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To: LRVision

This article should explain where he stands on gun control. He will do exactly what he is told to do by the puppet masters.


2 posted on 11/25/2011 9:36:06 AM PST by RC2
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To: LRVision

Romney said he was in favor of a complete ban on semi-automatic weapons while governor of Massachusetts. He’s a gun-grabber just like The Bamster.


3 posted on 11/25/2011 9:41:09 AM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: LRVision
What he wants us to believe:

Obama remains unclear on gun control

What he wants:

Obama remains unclear goes nuclear on gun control

4 posted on 11/25/2011 9:42:04 AM PST by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: LRVision

"..????....unclear?..anyone who changes his name,his religion,his social security number (6 times),his friends,one who he denies knowing who happen to author a book for him..???...his priest, who he denies he never heard....and you have concerns about how he feels about guns? UNCLEAR?...you worry about clarity?

5 posted on 11/25/2011 9:43:05 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: LRVision

I think Gunwalker explains his position pretty well.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 9:44:25 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: LRVision

This writer says Obama’s stands on gun control are unclear, then goes on to say that Obama has a record of backing strict gun control measures before he became president.

So how exactly is his position unclear???


7 posted on 11/25/2011 9:46:05 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: RC2

This is all that anyone needs to know about Obama’s war on the Second Amendment:

Obama’s Secret Plan To Destroy The Second Amendment By 2016

http://www.nrapublications.org/index.php/11920/obamas-secret-plan-to-destroy-the-second-amendment-by-2016/


8 posted on 11/25/2011 9:47:35 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: LRVision

What is unclear about Barry wanting to disarm the American people except for his civilian army?


9 posted on 11/25/2011 9:47:58 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: RC2
This article should explain where he stands on gun control. He will do exactly what he is told to do by the puppet masters.


10 posted on 11/25/2011 9:50:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: LRVision

“Unclear???” Oh please! Hussein might have resorted to stone silence since his election, but his views on the right to keep and bear arms are FAR from unclear!!! After all, Fast and Furious is the most massive, illegal and unconstitutional attempt to undermine the 2nd Amendment in the nation’s history!


11 posted on 11/25/2011 9:53:43 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: LRVision
>>Obama remains unclear on gun control

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *wipes eyes* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

12 posted on 11/25/2011 9:53:56 AM PST by pabianice (")
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To: LRVision

Next summer —when it’s clear that Zero will get an election day whupping— he will decide that he has nothing to lose
and will start writing executive orders as fast as he can.

BTW. he will do this with everything, especially, environmental regs...


13 posted on 11/25/2011 9:54:24 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander -- ..........................NUTS !)
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To: LRVision
Obama remains unclear on gun control

I disagree. 0bama said it himself to the Brady woman, "we are working on [it] under the radar." That statement makes it very clear where he stands.

I wonder if Erica Werner is familiar with Operation Fast & Furious?

5.56mm

14 posted on 11/25/2011 9:55:30 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yessir. And right now the puppet master is busy buying up all the weapons manufacturers. Hmmmm!!!!


15 posted on 11/25/2011 10:01:46 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: LRVision
At the same time, he's apparently decided that his record backing gun safety is nothing to boast of

Erica Werner wouldn't know gun safety if it impacted her hoplophobic a$$ at high velocity.

16 posted on 11/25/2011 10:04:18 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: LRVision

17 posted on 11/25/2011 10:08:03 AM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Yessir. And right now the puppet master is busy buying up all the weapons manufacturers. Hmmmm!!!!”

Care to elaborate?


18 posted on 11/25/2011 10:09:50 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: LRVision

Obama is playing it close to the vest on this and many other issues until after the election.


19 posted on 11/25/2011 10:12:06 AM PST by AU72
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To: LRVision

Obumma is attempting to play a shell game on the 2A, letting his surrogates do the damage while maintaining a facade of seeming inaction. The classic slow boiled frog in the pot.


20 posted on 11/25/2011 10:19:19 AM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: LRVision

Bullshit!


21 posted on 11/25/2011 10:23:57 AM PST by sport
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To: LRVision; MileHi; KeyLargo; All
Obama remains unclear on gun control
One more important reason Obama must be defeated.

Agree / You...What a diaper-load of cr@p!...
(ref: N.A.Z.I. Princess Pelosi :)
W.T.H....Is this (0Bozo's) Media Moron talking about?
....an "Prime Example" of mis-direction / censorship by omission.

0Bozo, Is pissing on (all) the Founding Documents.

22 posted on 11/25/2011 10:34:19 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: LRVision
I just stocked up on some more ammo this morning. That was my only concession to Black Friday.
23 posted on 11/25/2011 10:48:51 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: buffaloguy

George Soros has some company named Cerberus Capital Mangement which has already bought Marlin, Remington, Bushmaster, Panther, DPMS Firearms, I think also Rock River plus others. They are going to call their weapons division Freedom Group Inc. If you control the manufacturers you could just decide to stop selling to civilians. Ain’t life grand?


24 posted on 11/25/2011 10:55:24 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I had an e-mail about that, but never found it posted here.

Do you consider that verified?

25 posted on 11/25/2011 11:03:03 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

Yes I looked it up. Cerebras owns about 10 arms manufacturers now and they tried to buy Ronnie Barrett but he told them to eff off. A great American. Buy Barrett!!!


26 posted on 11/25/2011 11:06:37 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Very suprised this never made it’s own thread for the bang_list.


27 posted on 11/25/2011 11:11:21 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Joe Brower

Have you seen a story on this?


28 posted on 11/25/2011 11:15:16 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi; Georgia Girl 2
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=7136

Internet Rumors About Cerberus, Freedom Group Are Patently False

 
Friday, October 14, 2011
 

Recently, an old rumor regarding Cerberus--the private equity firm that owns Freedom group, a holding company that in turn owns a number of firearms manufacturers, including Remington, Marlin, Bushmaster, and DPMS--was in some way tied to George Soros.

This rumor is completely false and baseless.

NRA has had contact with officials from Cerberus and Freedom Group for some time.  The owners and investors involved are strong supporters of the Second Amendment and are avid hunters and shooters.

In reality, at no time has George Soros ever been a part of the ownership group of Freedom Group or Cerberus, and as a privately traded corporation, there is no possibility that he will be in the future.

This unsubstantiated rumor has caused a great deal of unnecessary concern for gun owners. NRA-ILA urges our members to take great care before repeating baseless rumors found on the Internet.


29 posted on 11/25/2011 11:33:04 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I guess this means that the NRA is in on the conspiracy?


30 posted on 11/25/2011 11:34:38 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: All

what is unclear? the democrats have been trying to take guns away for a generation. They view Americans that exercise their right to keep and bear arms as a threat to their plan of total societal subjugation to the authority of the state.

Anyone that thinks otherwise is a danger to the rest of us.


31 posted on 11/25/2011 11:36:40 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: Jeff Chandler

Thank you for the link


32 posted on 11/25/2011 11:38:36 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: LRVision

Obama is anything but “unclear” on gun control. He’s shown he will break laws and trash the Constitution to try to disarm us.


33 posted on 11/25/2011 12:23:46 PM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Thanks for the link. I did not know this however about 2 years ago before the weapons issue came up my fiancee’ read that Soros was funding millions of dollars of loans through Cerberus as an investor to people of the right political persuasion. Since Cerberus is a private company I guess we and the NRA will have to take their word that Soros is not involved.


34 posted on 11/25/2011 1:17:58 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

George Soros, as far as I know, owns no part of Cerberus or Freedom Arms. The owners are all gun nuts and they seem to be doing a good job.

This is a life long dream according to them.

Soros has about 13.7 billion according recent estimates. Lots of money and he can get controlling interest in some companies, but not all of them.


35 posted on 11/25/2011 1:34:22 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: LRVision

Obama is not silent. Everything done by his administration as trial balloons is his voice speaking. Fast and Furious is his voice and his project. He owns it.


36 posted on 11/25/2011 1:37:12 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: LRVision; All

Obongo Bozo’s position on gun control is very clear to me — if he gets his way, he’ll make ownership of a personal weapon illegal!

See the current issue of American Rifleman for more information.

I would urge all Real Americans to join one or all of the major national pro-second Amendment organizations out there to help us keep the gun grabbers at bay!

There is strength in numbers, and with roughly 90 million gun owners in the USA (and I suspect that number is way understated!), there is no reason why Obongo Bozo and his LIEberal buddies should prevail.

But it will require much vigilance! And a lot of time, talent and treasure to defeat these bastards!

And, defeat them we must!


37 posted on 11/25/2011 9:27:55 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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