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Australians told to immunize children or loose family tax breaks
Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | November 25, 2011 | ABC News

Posted on 11/25/2011 10:21:19 AM PST by JerseyanExile

Parents who do not have their children fully immunised will be stripped of family tax benefits under a scheme announced by the Federal Government.

The Government says 11 per cent of five-year-olds are not immunised and has announced a shake-up of the system which will take effect from July 1 next year.

Under the changes, families who refuse vaccinations face losing up to $2,100 per child in benefits.

Families will need to have their children fully immunised to receive the Family Tax Benefit (FTB) Part A end-of-year supplement.

A new immunisation check will be introduced for one-year-olds to supplement the existing immunisation checks at two and five years of age.

The FTB supplement, worth $726 per child each year, will now only be paid once a child is fully immunised at these checks.

Families are already required to have their child fully immunised to receive Child Care Benefit and the Child Care Rebate.

Children will also be required for the first time to be vaccinated against meningococcal C, pneumococcal and chicken pox.

Children will also be immunised against measles, mumps and rubella earlier, at 18 months instead of the current four years of age.

Health Minister Nicola Roxon is also announcing today a new campaign to advise parents and healthcare providers on what they can do to protect babies from whooping cough.

All parents of newborns will receive letters providing information on immunising against whooping cough and how to identify the disease and prevent it spreading.

"We know that immunisation is fundamental to a child's lifelong health and that's why we want to make sure children are immunised at the right time," Ms Roxon said.

The Government says the changes will deliver savings of $209.1 million over four years.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: australia; publichealth; vaccination
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You know, I tend to be pretty pro-vaccination. But even I think this might be going too far.
1 posted on 11/25/2011 10:21:30 AM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

Ummm, and why should people get benefits from the government—if they’re:

A) Neglecting their children’s health
B) Making their kids a danger as carriers to others
C) Putting their own superstitious anti-science bias above their own family’s health and the health of others?


2 posted on 11/25/2011 10:26:26 AM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: JerseyanExile

“Australians told to immunize children or loose family tax breaks”

Do the Aussies spell “lose” as “loose”?


3 posted on 11/25/2011 10:28:45 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: JerseyanExile

Take the King’s Coin, do the King’s Bidding.


4 posted on 11/25/2011 10:29:44 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: JerseyanExile
I don't trust the Government.

Simian Virus 40 (SV40):A Cancer Causing Monkey Virus from FDA-Approved Vaccines

5 posted on 11/25/2011 10:30:52 AM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

The actual title spells “lose” correctly.

Some tard changed it.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 10:31:39 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: AnalogReigns
Since when is confiscating less of a citizen's property considered a "benefit from the government" by any conservative?
7 posted on 11/25/2011 10:35:37 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

But how bout “loosed’?
Is that a good thing or what?????


8 posted on 11/25/2011 10:42:54 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: humblegunner

Oh my.


9 posted on 11/25/2011 10:44:34 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: humblegunner
The actual title spells “lose” correctly.

Some tard changed it.

It remains a mystery to me how some Freepers continue to misspell "lose" and "loose" in context. So few can get "it's" and "it" right, either. Darn it, people. "It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is" and "its" is the possessive pronoun as in "This was its destiny." What is so damn hard about that?

Journalists have many faults, but spelling usually isn't one of them.

10 posted on 11/25/2011 10:46:38 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: JerseyanExile

Forcing people to inject known toxins into their children at the most vulnerable time in their lives ...hmmmmm particularly irrational vaccines for homosexual drug addicts like Hep B. 3-doses of this poison and no harm????? Right. No connection with Autism and vaccinations when the “epidemic” coincided with the tripling of vaccines and the mass grouping of toxins in one shot....hmmmmmm.

No one is logical anymore....they think this is ALL “good” and govt. does what is “best”. hmmmmmmm

Very Sick and fascistic.


11 posted on 11/25/2011 10:47:54 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: JerseyanExile

They elected a socialist. What did they expect?

Zero and Julia Gillard got along very well on Zero’s recent waste of jet fuel.

Gillard, however is prolly a moderate socialist - on social issues- compared to Zero. She does not support gay marriage but is pro-abortion with a wink to “understanding the moral issues”...


12 posted on 11/25/2011 10:48:16 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander -- ..........................NUTS !)
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To: savagesusie

The very concept of vaccination is based on the assumption that the vaccinated are not threatened by the disease. Therefore, the unvaccinated cannot be a threat to the vaccinated. The risk they assume is their own only.

Amazing how most people can’t understand that simple reality.


13 posted on 11/25/2011 10:55:43 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: JerseyanExile
Australians told to immunize children or loose family tax breaks

Not sure I understand the headline, but I assume this means that if they don't immunize children, more choices as to tax breaks will become available to them.

14 posted on 11/25/2011 10:56:59 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: OldPossum

I agree that its a hugh and series problem.


15 posted on 11/25/2011 10:57:21 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Alright, alright. I was in a rush when putting this up, got a bit sloppy on the title.


16 posted on 11/25/2011 11:17:07 AM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

Next they will require Gardasil and fun can really begin for those tennie-boppers...just like here in Texas (almost).


17 posted on 11/25/2011 11:18:46 AM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: GourmetDan
The very concept of vaccination is based on the assumption that the vaccinated are not threatened by the disease. Therefore, the unvaccinated cannot be a threat to the vaccinated. The risk they assume is their own only.

Not true. No vaccine is 100% effective. Plus, some vaccines lose their effectiveness over time. So yes, the unvaccinated can be a threat to the vaccinated.

18 posted on 11/25/2011 11:26:21 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555

Ah, a gnat was found.

Congrats.


19 posted on 11/25/2011 11:28:52 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: savagesusie
Forcing people to inject known toxins into their children at the most vulnerable time in their lives ...hmmmmm particularly irrational vaccines for homosexual drug addicts like Hep B. 3-doses of this poison and no harm????? Right. No connection with Autism and vaccinations when the “epidemic” coincided with the tripling of vaccines and the mass grouping of toxins in one shot....hmmmmmm.

What known toxins are you talking about? And don't tell me you aren't aware that the so-called vaccine-autism link has been thoroughly discredited.

20 posted on 11/25/2011 11:29:14 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: GourmetDan
Ah, a gnat was found.

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

21 posted on 11/25/2011 11:30:09 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555

And live-virus vaccines can be a threat to the unvaccinated, so you should never use those either.


22 posted on 11/25/2011 11:30:23 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: jalisco555

Obviously.


23 posted on 11/25/2011 11:30:59 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
Obviously.

LOL, OK, you win. I bow to your rhetorical superiority.

24 posted on 11/25/2011 11:32:50 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: JerseyanExile

Big government tyranny strikes again.
Versions of this same tactic abound all over the globe, especially here in the United States.
“Purse strings”, they’re called.


25 posted on 11/25/2011 11:32:50 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JerseyanExile

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!


26 posted on 11/25/2011 11:35:18 AM PST by winodog
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To: jalisco555

And I bow to your ability to find a gnat in a hurricane...


27 posted on 11/25/2011 11:37:36 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
And I bow to your ability to find a gnat in a hurricane..

Ah, but which of us will bow lower?

28 posted on 11/25/2011 11:40:23 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555

The one who pretends to be a conservative but uses liberal arguments to force other people into behaviors that they support.


29 posted on 11/25/2011 11:42:33 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: treetopsandroofs; JerseyanExile
Do the Aussies spell “lose” as “loose”?

Actually it is a common mistake seen often here on FR. While it is incorrect it does not seem to me to be worth the self righteous nitpicking that some FReepers see as necessary.

30 posted on 11/25/2011 11:42:55 AM PST by calex59
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To: humblegunner
Some tard changed it.

And one tard is worried about it......get a life.

31 posted on 11/25/2011 11:46:38 AM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: GourmetDan
Amazing how most people can’t understand that simple reality.

I've pointed out your argument many times on FR vaccination threads and get many hysterical arguments why ALL should be immunized. One argument was that vaccinations are not 100% effective so therefore everyone should get one. Talk about a circular argument.

32 posted on 11/25/2011 11:47:27 AM PST by calex59
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To: GourmetDan
The one who pretends to be a conservative but uses liberal arguments to force other people into behaviors that they support.

To be serious for a moment, I should tell you I'm a bit biased here. As a physician, it is wonderful that I have never seen a case of acute poliomyelitis and have virtually never encountered pertussis, hepatitis B and many other preventable illnesses. This is a miracle my colleagues of previous generations could only dream about. To deny children protection from these awful diseases is, IMHO, incomprehensible.

33 posted on 11/25/2011 11:48:32 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: FReepaholic

Thanks for the interesting link.


34 posted on 11/25/2011 11:48:32 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: ScreamingFist

I was responding to post #3, in which it was first brought up.

You fail.


35 posted on 11/25/2011 11:50:05 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: treetopsandroofs
Do the Aussies spell “lose” as “loose”?

Since you axe, no.

36 posted on 11/25/2011 11:54:26 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: humblegunner
I was responding to post #3, in which it was first brought up. You fail.

Snort.....you lose again....thread monitor boy.

37 posted on 11/25/2011 11:55:02 AM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: calex59

It’s that liberal mindset that always seeks to expand it’s circle of power.

Liberalism says I can make laws to impose my beliefs onto others for my benefit.

Conservatism says I take responsibility for my own well-being.

Lots of people who think they are conservative really aren’t very...


38 posted on 11/25/2011 11:56:03 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: ScreamingFist

Bless your heart.


39 posted on 11/25/2011 11:58:53 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: jalisco555
For those who want a "balanced" view, from a pro-vaccination doctor, check out the book by Dr. Sears on the topic.

Even he doesn't go towards a "Government-as-god-Pharma" in control of peoples' children.

40 posted on 11/25/2011 11:59:12 AM PST by elk
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To: jalisco555

Just because it’s incomprehensible to you doesn’t mean that you can force your beliefs onto others. That’s not convervatism, that liberalism and it never ends. Somebody always knows ‘better’.

Doesn’t Obama know ‘better’ than you and is proceeding to destroy not only your profession but the actual health of millions because he knows ‘better’?


41 posted on 11/25/2011 11:59:52 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I thought it was pronounced ‘axed’? :-)


42 posted on 11/25/2011 12:02:10 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: humblegunner
Bless your heart.

Thanks, wouldn't want you to lose patience with me....you might deem me a loser.....

43 posted on 11/25/2011 12:02:23 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: GourmetDan
Doesn’t Obama know ‘better’ than you and is proceeding to destroy not only your profession but the actual health of millions because he knows ‘better’?

The awfulness of Obamacare doesn't change the awsomeness of vaccinations. The development of mass vaccination was the single most important medical advance of the 20th century. In 1953 there were 53,000 new cases of polio. You would want to go back to that? I remember elementary school classmates in leg braces. When was the last time you saw such a thing at an elementary school? I remember my medical school professors talking of children dying of whooping cough in their arms. You would want to go back to that?

44 posted on 11/25/2011 12:09:03 PM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555

Nobody said it did except you.


45 posted on 11/25/2011 12:14:52 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: jalisco555

Here is a link for a chart that lists vaccines in which aborted babies’ cells are used: http://www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm

Sick. Maybe not a toxin, but sick indeed.


46 posted on 11/25/2011 12:15:24 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: OldPossum

Its simply amazing that not only here on FR but in general we read the term ‘lose’ spelled as ‘loose’. Drives me nuts. Also the term ‘dining’ spelled as ‘dinning’. Ok all done with the spelling bee rant.


47 posted on 11/25/2011 12:45:39 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: algernonpj
This is a sad story that I'm just beginning to read about. From HERE:

...All health authorities agree that both the Salk Inactivated Polio Vaccine (IPV) and Sabin Oral or “live” Polio Vaccine (OPV) were contaminated with SV40 up until 1961. The contamination has been estimated to have exposed up to 30 million Americans and millions more in the USSR (where the OPV clinical trials were conducted) and other countries...

...In the U.S., federal law did not require that SV40 contaminated vaccines be discarded if they were manufactured before the new regulations went into effect. This meant that vaccines contaminated with SV40 were administered to children and adults until they were used up...

48 posted on 11/25/2011 1:10:13 PM PST by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: Windflier

Although its name includes the word ‘tax’ to misleadingly suggest some sort of connection with productive activity, the “Family Tax Benefit” referred to is a welfare scheme for families with children, paid and administered by the welfare agency, separately from the tax system. There is no requirement to work to get it, the amount of the welfare payment decreases as a family earns more money, and it is entirely possible to get paid more than you paid in taxes. It really is a benefit.


49 posted on 11/25/2011 1:45:47 PM PST by fluorescence
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To: tflabo

The problem is that people don’t pay attention to how words are spelled as they read.


50 posted on 11/25/2011 1:54:51 PM PST by OldPossum
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