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Stop peddling the lie that Palin led to Giffords’ shooting
Charleston (WV) Daily Mail ^ | November 25, 2011 | Don Surber

Posted on 11/25/2011 3:05:57 PM PST by Mustang Driver

I have great respect for retired Navy Captain Mark Kelly’s service to this nation. I also admire the courage of Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. See Thursday’s post, “God bless you, Gabrielle Giffords.” But I find Captain Kelly’s tactics for selling his new book to be insulting , misleading and plain out wrong. More than that it is disturbingly dishonorable.

From the London Daily Mail:

But it was the lack of any contact from former Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin that was ‘surprising’ said Mr Kelly.

Citing the book, Mr Morgan said that it revealed some ‘interesting insights’ into ‘political colleagues and people that [Gabby Giffords] had worked for and against.’

Speaking about a map for which Palin was responsible, with crosshairs over certain states including Arizona, Mr Morgan said that the Alaskan ‘doesn’t come out of this very well, I don’t think, because there was a woman who at the time had been putting these crosshair things on her website and stuff, including Gabby,’ he said.

Sarah Palin’s map had nothing to do with the attempted assassination of Congresswoman Giffords. The man who shot her knew nothing of the map and had stalked the captain’s wife for 3 years prior to the shooting that left 6 people dead.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dupnick; giffords; lies; palin
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1 posted on 11/25/2011 3:06:00 PM PST by Mustang Driver
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To: Mustang Driver

I wonder whether Kelly’s angling for his own political career.


2 posted on 11/25/2011 3:07:36 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Mustang Driver

I blame Obama.


3 posted on 11/25/2011 3:09:42 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: 9YearLurker

I wonder whether Kelly’s angling for his own political career.

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Wouldn’t surprise me. Perhaps he has his eye on his wife’s seat when the truth comes out that she really can’t handle the position any more. What a jerk.


4 posted on 11/25/2011 3:10:07 PM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: Mustang Driver

The shooter was a liberal democrat, no?...

Lots of liberal democrats taking their queues from Sarah Palin?


5 posted on 11/25/2011 3:11:03 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: Mustang Driver

Democrats, always stay classy. It’s not enough that these two will be cared for by our tax dollars for the rest of their lives; they get to besmirch the character of private citizens without any supporting facts.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 3:12:07 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Mustang Driver

Democrats, always stay classy. It’s not enough that these two will be cared for by our tax dollars for the rest of their lives; they get to besmirch the character of private citizens without any supporting facts.


7 posted on 11/25/2011 3:12:17 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Mustang Driver

And yet, they had no problem with that thug Jimmy Hoffa saying that the members of the Tea Party should be “taken out.”


8 posted on 11/25/2011 3:14:26 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Mustang Driver

I was channel surfing the other night and I saw he was on Pier’s show. He actually said that Palin was not responsible.


9 posted on 11/25/2011 3:14:38 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Excellent! Me too ;-)

In fact, I have been conducting a “blame Øbumbler” for several months now. I use the excuse of any price increase, breakdown, interruption, or calamity to subtlety blame the bass turd.

I don’t expect dramatic results - rather I conduct it as a FUD campaign to sow the seeds of doubt.


10 posted on 11/25/2011 3:16:06 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Mustang Driver

How can it be the “Giffords shooting”? How come its not named after the federal judge who died?


11 posted on 11/25/2011 3:16:55 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Mustang Driver

These people know that Sarah Palin is not responsible for what happened, they are just using that idiot argument for their own political purposes. Piers Morgan is a liberal hack, how ironic that a guy that is always trashing America is a host on the show “America’s Got Talent.” Funny how no one brings up the blog post on the Daily Kos written a day before the shooting where someone said that Giffords was “Dead to him” if that isn’t a threat I don’t know what is. Blaming Sarah Palin for what happened would be like blaming Giffords for not having any security at her event. She was shot by a whack job who today if he wasn’t in the looney bin somewhere would be chillin with the Occupy Wall Street freaks.


12 posted on 11/25/2011 3:27:21 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Include Sheriff Dupnick (D) of Pima County who blamed on Sarah Palin and the TEA Party on TV minutes after the shooting and then repeated that statement for three weeks..
13 posted on 11/25/2011 3:28:27 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Perdogg
I was channel surfing the other night and I saw he was on Pier’s show. He actually said that Palin was not responsible.

How big of him to state the obvious.

The innuendo is what annoys most of us. Captain Mark Kelly makes the lame observation about the Palin 'bullseye' map but totally ignores the fact that the shooter was demented and that an election-related map on Sarah Palin's website had absolutely nothing to do with his decision to shoot the congresswoman. That Kelly resurrects this crap is highly annoying.

14 posted on 11/25/2011 3:28:52 PM PST by Jim Scott (on the 'Cain Train')
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To: Mustang Driver

Let’s count the Republicans who came to her defense on one finger, shall we?

Everyone who tries to connect her to the shootings can go straight to Hell and never return.

Hello Diane Sawyer.


15 posted on 11/25/2011 3:40:45 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: SandRat

It was mass hysteria on the local Tucson “news” that day too. The talking heads were falling all over one another to blame conservatives and even “divisive” bumper stickers. Always with looks of disgust on their faces.


16 posted on 11/25/2011 3:44:33 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: GeronL

Doesn’t fit the narrative. A deranged Communist/anarchist murdered the Republican judge and shot Giffords, yet it is “Palin’s fault.” Mr. Kelly, Mizzzzzzz Sawyer and all the other idiots alleging that filth can go screw themselves.


17 posted on 11/25/2011 3:44:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Mustang Driver

I don’t see that Palin had anything to do with this. The shooter was a nutcase who would probably at this very moment be hanging out with Occupy Wall Street, and had absolutely nothing in common with Palin and no interest in her positions, as far as I can see and based on what he said.


18 posted on 11/25/2011 3:46:13 PM PST by livius
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To: 9YearLurker

There is something about Kelly that I never have liked. He seems to be a liberal...more so than Gabby. I wonder if he has influenced her?


19 posted on 11/25/2011 3:46:33 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Borax Queen

I still haven’t heard any apology from them either.


20 posted on 11/25/2011 3:49:33 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Mustang Driver

Can’t wait to read a book about his wife getting shot!!! /sarc.


21 posted on 11/25/2011 3:49:58 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: SandRat

Nope.

I will never watch Martha Vasquez (local NBC) again. She was one of the most eager to blame bumper stickers, practically spitting as she said it.


22 posted on 11/25/2011 3:55:00 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: livius

The shooter needs to be decorating an Oak Tree hanging by a rope.


23 posted on 11/25/2011 3:55:06 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Borax Queen

She is a rebid Grijalva supporter too!


24 posted on 11/25/2011 3:57:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Oh my, well, that explains everything then. Sigh....


25 posted on 11/25/2011 3:58:16 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Mustang Driver

Stinkin’ DIANE SAWYER included that Giffords’ district was under a Palin ‘target’ in her special on Giffords’ recovery last week.
Mark Levin played the audio and deemed it, in his best voice of disgust “DISGUSTING”.

Surprised I don’t see on on this thread here yet, or did i miss something? Is it in the article? If not I’m sure Sawyers’ comment helped prompt the article.

O’Reilly had Sawyer on (via live remote) for an extended peek ( 5 minutes?) at her special the very night it was on. One’d have no clue from her tone etc she was going to pull this brazen partisanship off.

If O’Reilly ever has her on again, shame on him.

It was a despicable act by Diane Sawyer.


26 posted on 11/25/2011 4:00:24 PM PST by BonRad (Ut Roma cadit, sic omnis terra -As Rome falls, so the entire world)
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To: 9YearLurker
I also admire the courage of Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

I hope she recovers but getting shot is not courageous and neither is the recovery, recovering is what most would try to do.

27 posted on 11/25/2011 4:05:51 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: SandRat

You mean Sheriff Roscoe P. Dupnik, whose agents shot an Iraqi war vet dead in cold blood.


28 posted on 11/25/2011 4:09:50 PM PST by stratman1969 (Anyone but Obama or Romney in 2012)
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To: BonRad

In her hate-filled special propaganda section about how evil conservatives, and especially Palin, are, Sawyer directly tied 1) ObamaCare protestors, 2) a shot window (no arrests, ZERO proof that anyone but their own staff shot it out, like leftists always do), and 3) that cartographer’s map -— to the shooting.

I have no doubt that many, many, many people in the country believe that our protests against a government-rationed health system are directly to blame for the incident.


29 posted on 11/25/2011 4:10:11 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: 9YearLurker

I don’t wonder.


30 posted on 11/25/2011 4:11:46 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: onyx

That’s what disgusted me even more, the number of Republicans who stood by and let her get slandered by the media and the Left for this.


31 posted on 11/25/2011 4:11:50 PM PST by stratman1969 (Anyone but Obama or Romney in 2012)
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To: stratman1969

Yeah... that dip stick.


32 posted on 11/25/2011 4:12:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: onyx

Well put! I can’t emphasize enough how much faith and respect I’ve lost in the whole GOP due to their inability and/or unwillingness to defend one of their own against such outlandishly scurrilous attacks as this. Whether it was here, when the media tried to blame Palin for complicity in mass murder, or back in 2009, when there was a coordinated Dem effort to bankrupt her and her family into millions in debt, the GOP never lifted a finger to help her. Hell, they practically piled on!

I’ve supported and exclusively voted GOP my whole voting life, but after witnessing all this these past three years, I feel absolutely zero affection or allegiance to the Party. I’m just thoroughly disgusted with them.


33 posted on 11/25/2011 4:17:54 PM PST by greene66
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To: 9YearLurker

Indubatably!


34 posted on 11/25/2011 4:18:20 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: SandRat

If he actually had been a Tea Partier, believe me, he would have been at the end of that rope in no time at all.


35 posted on 11/25/2011 4:20:38 PM PST by livius
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To: GeronL

The tragic death/killing of a federal judge(who happens to be a Republican)just doesn’t measure up to the tragedy of Gifford-to some people. There is something awry in our societal structure.


36 posted on 11/25/2011 4:21:08 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: stratman1969

Yep. Republican weasels.


37 posted on 11/25/2011 4:21:14 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: greene66

Hear! Hear!

I echo your every brilliant word!

TEA Party Patriots. The GOP-E and the weasels mean nothing to me.


38 posted on 11/25/2011 4:24:12 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: stratman1969

I think a lot of Republicans were really completely stunned by this. Palin had nothing to do with it...and all of a sudden, even the US president is implying that she did.

I remember being utterly confused when the press said that the shooter was influenced the “Tea Party” and “climate of hate” supposedly created by Sarah Palin. He had no connection with either the Tea Party or Palin, and I think many of us were blindsided by the attack.

There should have been more defense, but it was such an off-the-wall assault, bearing no connection to reality, that I think many average GOPers felt attacked themselves and had no idea of how to respond. It was bizarre.


39 posted on 11/25/2011 4:27:13 PM PST by livius
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To: onyx; greene66

Very well said.

Count me in as well.


40 posted on 11/25/2011 4:34:50 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: livius

Look for them to repeat this lie many times in the coming months.

Truth be damned, they’re gonna run with it anyway.


41 posted on 11/25/2011 4:49:19 PM PST by digger48
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To: Mustang Driver
Speaking about a map for which Palin was responsible, with crosshairs over certain states including Arizona, Mr Morgan said that the Alaskan ‘doesn’t come out of this very well, I don’t think, because there was a woman who at the time had been putting these crosshair things on her website and stuff, including Gabby,’ he said.

So let's see. The Daily KOS put crosshairs on Giffords because she wasn't liberal enough, and Loughner was a 9-11 truther who hated Bush, and who do lefties blame for the attack? Palin.

42 posted on 11/25/2011 5:32:06 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
These people know that Sarah Palin is not responsible for what happened, they are just using that idiot argument for their own political purposes.

It has the foul stench of the JournoList crowd.

43 posted on 11/25/2011 5:52:54 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

I blame the shooter who was & still is nuttier than a squirrel turd. 8^/


44 posted on 11/25/2011 6:04:54 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Mustang Driver

I thought those “cross-hairs” were surveyor marks.

The democrats used them, too.


45 posted on 11/25/2011 6:46:54 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The "Occupy Wall Street" losers should try occupying their local employment office. GET A JOB!)
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To: Bigg Red

I wonder whether Kelly’s angling for his own political career.
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I believe I heard recently on a radio talk show that there is speculation that — rather than run for his wife’s seat — Kelly may attempt to run for the Senate from Texas (as a Democrat, of course) to take RINO Kay Bailey Hutchison’s seat.


46 posted on 11/25/2011 7:40:34 PM PST by man_in_tx
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To: man_in_tx

Well, if Kelly replaces Hutchison, I guess no one will notice. The Senate votes will continue along the same basic line of ideology.


47 posted on 11/26/2011 5:11:40 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Here is the URL to the image of the jeep Compass for ‘09

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200903/2009-jeep-compass-4_460x0w.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.topspeed.com/cars/jeep/2009-jeep-compass-limited-ar71218.html&usg=__iVQnaLpIpK43vJ5Y8Jr0JMX17z8=&h=345&w=460&sz=58&hl=en&start=22&zoom=1&tbnid=RhJlz6ed_mB7IM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=128&ei=y-bQToOEE6GM2gW3s6TQDw&prev=/search%3Fq%3D2009%2Bjeep%2Bcompass%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd%3Dimvns&itbs=1

It isnt a good image but if you look at the rear bumper, the “O” in Compass is replaced with the surveyor mark


48 posted on 11/26/2011 5:33:53 AM PST by hockea (Jeep agrees with you)
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C4P had a video link on yesterday’s open board about a local AZ TV station questioning the motives of those accusing or hinting that Palin had a part of the shooting. Gifford’s hubby said Palin had nothing to do with the matter but then quipped about Palin’s “tone” (gag alert).

They can’t pin it on her but that won’t stop them from throwing excrement to see what sticks.

I’m really having a hart time feeling sorry from them if they keep playing this “guilt by subtle insinuations”.


49 posted on 11/26/2011 11:15:54 AM PST by Kolath
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To: All

C4P had a video link on yesterday’s open board about a local AZ TV station questioning the motives of those accusing or hinting that Palin had a part of the shooting. Gifford’s hubby said Palin had nothing to do with the matter but then quipped about Palin’s “tone” (gag alert).

They can’t pin it on her but that won’t stop them from throwing excrement to see what sticks.

I’m really having a hard time feeling sorry from them if they keep playing this “guilt by subtle insinuations”.


50 posted on 11/26/2011 11:16:06 AM PST by Kolath
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