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Romney: The Castor-Oil Candidate - Republicans are finding the prospect of nominating Mitt...
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | November 24, 2011 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/25/2011 4:36:12 PM PST by neverdem

Romney: The Castor-Oil Candidate
Republicans are finding the prospect of nominating Mitt hard to swallow.

Nominating Mitt Romney is sort of like taking Grandma’s castor oil. Republicans are dreading the thought of downing their unpleasant-tasting medicine but worry that sooner or later they will have to.

By any logical political calculus, the former Massachusetts governor is an ideal presidential candidate. Ramrod straight, fit, and well-educated, he knows all sorts of facts and figures and comes across like a cinematic chief executive.

At any other time, an informed technocrat like Romney would seem a dream candidate. Yet in the run-up to this election, Americans are completely turned off by Washington’s so-called experts, such as Energy Secretary Steven Chu, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, Attorney General Eric Holder — and, increasingly, Barack Obama himself. 

As a former governor and presidential candidate, Romney has been fully vetted. In these racy times, Mormonism is viewed as more a guarantee of a candidate’s past probity than a political liability. So there is little chance that a blonde accuser will appear out of Romney’s past, or that in late October 2012 the New York Times will uncover a long-ago DUI charge.

The calculating Republican establishment believes Romney has enough crossover appeal to independents to beat a shaky Obama. It still has nightmares of tea-party senatorial candidates Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell, whose 2010 primary victories led to inept campaigns and Republican losses in the general elections in Nevada and Delaware, respectively.

Although conservatives dub Romney a flip-flopper for changing positions on abortion, gun control, and health care, the base knew all about those old reversals in 2008, when it nonetheless praised Romney as the only conservative alternative to maverick moderate John McCain. Apparently the party has moved to the right since then. Tea partiers worry that, once in office, a moderate President Romney would prove a reach-out centrist — spending borrowed money like George W. Bush did on No Child Left Behind or the Medicare prescription-drug benefit, thereby ruining for good the now-suspect Republican brand of fiscal sobriety.

The result of those worries is that Romney has become the process-of-elimination candidate. The Hamlet-like governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels, hemmed and hawed and bowed out, as most knew he would. The charismatic and controversial Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin decided they were making too much money to go through another nasty political race.

If finger-pointing magnate Donald Trump was going to bet a campaign on Obama’s reluctance to disclose official documents, he would have done better to demand the release of the president’s mysteriously secret college transcripts and medical records rather than his birth certificate. In the debates, the audiences liked what former Sen. Rick Santorum had to say, regretting only that it came out of the mouth of Rick Santorum.

Rep. Michele Bachmann once soared as the anti-Romney and then crashed when 90 percent of her statements seemed courageous and inspired — but 10 percent sounded kind of weird.

Then came the most promising Romney alternative, job-creating Texas governor Rick Perry. He looked as presidential as Romney but immediately proved even more wooden in the debates. His “brainfreeze” moments were made worse by occasional goofy explanations that seemed most un-Texan.

New Jersey governor Chris Christie and Florida senatoor Marco Rubio were always crowd favorites, and they’re certainly hard-charging conservatives. Yet at some point, both realized that their scant years in office were comparable, in theory, to the thin résumé of Obama when he entered the presidency clueless.

Rep. Ron Paul’s shrill talk on fiscal sobriety is as refreshing as his vintage-1930s isolationist foreign policy is creepy. Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman is a sort of weak Romney doppelganger, raising the same paradox that money, looks, polish, and moderation this year are cause for suspicion, not reassurance.

Many like businessman Herman Cain’s straight-talking pragmatism. Yet more are worried that he might not know that China is a nuclear power, or that we recently joined the British and French in bombing Libya. By now, former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich knows almost everything about everything. But lots of Newt’s original — and now abandoned — positions were as liberal as Romney’s. And not all that long ago, he seemed as brilliant and glib — and recklessly self-destructive — as his contemporary and antagonist Bill Clinton.

To beat an ever-more-vulnerable Obama, Republicans keep coming back to someone who resembles a Romney, with strengths in just those areas where Obama is so demonstrably weak: prior executive experience as a governor, success in and intimacy with the private sector, a past fully vetted, and an unambiguous belief in the exceptional history and future of the United States.

In short, if Republicans are happy in theory that Mitt Romney could probably beat Obama, they seem just as unhappy in fact that first they have to nominate him.

— Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and the author, most recently, of The End of Spartaa novel about ancient freedom. © 2011 Tribune Media Services, Inc.



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To: neverdem
I will NOT vote for a gun grabbing socialist loving abortionist just because there's an (R) next to his name. How dumb do establishment Republicans think we are? I will NEVER vote for Romney!
51 posted on 11/25/2011 5:49:53 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: babygene

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


52 posted on 11/25/2011 5:55:18 PM PST by Anna W
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Romney “loved” the people of Massachusetts so much that they are now being TAXED if they don’t want to buy into his socialized medicine scheme, RomneyCare. I wonder what kind of “love” he has in store for the nation. No thank you.


53 posted on 11/25/2011 6:02:35 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: neverdem

Yes Romney is all the article says in the lead in... but Romney is also an Establishment RINO who could give a DAMN about what Conservative Americans want... Romney will not aggressively work to repeal obamacare - only if FORCED to do something by a Conservative Republican controlled Congress. Romney will me a wussy about reforming the EPA, Romney will not actively work against bureaucratic efforts to enforce a Cap and Trade Policy - the Congress will have to FORCE him to do it... Romney will only play act at reducing BIG GOVERNMENT... Romney is obamalite...


54 posted on 11/25/2011 6:06:31 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: Lady4Liberty

If you’re for liberty, then you ought to be familiar with the tenth amendment. The people of Massachusetts can CHANGE THEIR STATE LAW ANY TIME THEY WANT. Or, if it SUCKS so bad to live in Massachusetts, they’re free to leave.

You want to focus on one aspect of the REAL difference between Hussein and ALL of the Republican candidates...yet you IGNORE that I freely admit we have a flawed field.

I do not buy the notion that any of our candidates are as bad or worse than Hussein.


55 posted on 11/25/2011 6:11:38 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I sincerely hope Cain will be able to win the nomination.


56 posted on 11/25/2011 6:14:31 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: neverdem
By any logical political calculus, the former Massachusetts governor is an ideal presidential candidate. Ramrod straight, fit, and well-educated, he knows all sorts of facts and figures

The second sentence doesn't follow from the first at all. It might be argued that someone with those particular qualities (straightness, fitness, educated) would make a good President - but no one with any knowledge of the political process can argue those are the qualities that make for a good presidential candidate. The way the Romney-pushers talk you'd think they had an extremely charismatic, likable, and popular politician on their hands. Hardly. He's a straight laced, boring technocrat with perfectly shaped hair - that may be enough to beat a weak incumbent president like Obama, but in any given year, there's nothing especially promising about that type of candidate as a candidate.

57 posted on 11/25/2011 6:22:56 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: babygene

It is taken after swallowing a poisonous substance to induce vomiting. Which is what a lot of people will have to take to handle voting for Willard.


58 posted on 11/25/2011 6:24:11 PM PST by GeorgeTex (Obama-Four M President (Mendacious Manchurian Muslim Marxist))
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To: Farmer Dean
Sounds a lot like what we’re stuck with now as pResident.

Exactly what I've been saying about the pro-RomneyCare, anti- Second Amendment, big government liberal from MA since the first time he ran for President.

59 posted on 11/25/2011 6:28:35 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Like I said in another post: Having a direct hand in expanding socialism, thousands of abortions, and trampling on the 2nd amendment under the guise of "well it's states rights!" doesn't fly if you're a so-called conservative.

He's only singing the "states rights" tune now to make his liberal past sound palatable. He had liberal positions before being governor. He's been on record as being pro-abortion, pro-homosexual rights, and anti-gun long before being sworn in. Having a liberal record just proves it. He went along with it all. Why did he never take a STAND for conservatism? Is that the kind of person we want as President? Someone who'd bend over to liberals/liberalism?

He's running for the highest office of the land, which is at the federal level. If he wants to be a gun grabbing socialist, maybe he should run for governor of some liberal state again. And change parties.

I don't think it's so much to ask that our possible Republican nominee have actual conservative principles.

I can imagine a wimp like Romney as President with a liberal house & senate. They'd get him to go along with ANY liberal position with very little pressure. He'll say "Well, it's what the people want! Who am I to stop it?" Right? He does not have conservative convictions & he won't stand up for US.

I can't believe this is what the Republican party has come to. We can do better.

60 posted on 11/25/2011 6:35:09 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: neverdem

Romney is not castor oil. He’s strychnine.


61 posted on 11/25/2011 6:42:01 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: neverdem

Does castor oil come in suppository form? Because that’s the way it will feel Romney is being given to us.

Sorry Victor, don’t know what you’ve been smoking, but Romney as the nominee will guarantee 4 more years of the fascist and the death of the American Republic.

My father fought in 3 wars for this? I’m glad he can’t see this.

Anyone seen what the German and Italian bond offerings did this week? The economic situation is way past being able to suffer through another socialist President.

Romney a conservative? That’s just plain insulting to a thinking adult.


62 posted on 11/25/2011 6:44:42 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: neverdem
Romney: The Castor-Oil Strychnine Candidate -
63 posted on 11/25/2011 6:44:59 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Mr. Cain has the backing of the Tea Party.
My opinion is that the Tea Party is going to elect the next president whether he be the Republican nominee or a 3rd party candidate. High time we had a 3rd party!


64 posted on 11/25/2011 6:49:47 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: NakedRampage

Somehow I bet in the end, the NRA will endorse this guy. Stunts like that in the past is why I joined the GOA.


65 posted on 11/25/2011 6:49:56 PM PST by MachIV
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To: NakedRampage

Somehow I bet in the end, the NRA will endorse this guy. Stunts like that in the past is why I joined the GOA.


66 posted on 11/25/2011 6:50:40 PM PST by MachIV
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To: neverdem

Attention GOP:

Guess what?

I won’t be drinking your damn castor oil under any circumstances.

So stuff THAT in your pipe and smoke it, GOP.


67 posted on 11/25/2011 6:53:21 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: neverdem
I prefer the fish oil candidate.


68 posted on 11/25/2011 6:54:06 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Lady4Liberty
Having a direct hand in expanding socialism, thousands of abortions, and trampling on the 2nd amendment under the guise of "well it's states rights!" doesn't fly if you're a so-called conservative.

You haven't dealt with the ninth or tenth amendments or the Founders' concept of dual federalism via this argument, you've merely employed the invective.

There is a case for the electorate foisting upon the next President a Congress with two bodies WELL to the right of WHOEVER is elected President...I think if we did that, it would "pull along" a President who has a tendency to drift toward the middle...

You're right, we can do better, but it has to start with getting rid of Hussein. I frankly think there are better choices than Romney, just as I thought there were better choice than McAmenesty in 2008.

But even if McInsane were elected in 2008, I can guaran-damn-tee you, we would not have passed a $1 Trillion dollar slush fund for unions or Obamacare.

Politics is the art of the possible, and it is rarely (if EVER) the art of the perfect.

69 posted on 11/25/2011 7:06:55 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: neverdem

First time in a long time I’ve seen the Democrat come out in one of VDH’s articles. I noticed also that he has the gall to put Sara Palin in the same one liner with Giuliani as all about the money.

It’s rare, but this one reminds me he is a Democrat.


70 posted on 11/25/2011 7:28:00 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: neverdem

Grew up in Missouri where my Mom gave us a spoonful of Castor Oil every day. She knew what was good for us 4 girls.


71 posted on 11/25/2011 7:31:42 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Not every 20 percent is 20 percent. Some 20 percent is a majority, as these Republican primary voters will again demonstrate. Plurality is all that matters after three or four primaries. The problems is the uninformed early Republican primary voters who set the stage for the equally denser later primary voters.


72 posted on 11/25/2011 7:37:32 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: Lady4Liberty

LadyLiberty, do you really think our little Republican primary votes are going to nominate anyone good?


73 posted on 11/25/2011 7:40:27 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It’s nice that you won’t participate in nominating Mittens, but hundreds of thousands in early primary states will, and that seals the deal for us in despair.


74 posted on 11/25/2011 7:45:14 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It’s nice that you won’t participate in nominating Mittens, but hundreds of thousands in early primary states will, and that seals the deal for us in despair.


75 posted on 11/25/2011 7:45:26 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
A so-called conservative would NEVER proudly introduce socialism as an option on any level of government. He's still proud of what he has done. You're telling me the ONLY option he had was the monstrosity that is RomneyCare? The law that has bankrupted Mass and that uses tax dollars to fund abortions? Ha! He could have handled that problem in a conservative way, not by expanding government, taxes, and red tape for the people of Mass. But he is no conservative. It's what he wanted to do.

I, and the majority of people in the Republican party, vote based on values. Not solely based on an (R) next to a name. Socialism wasn't in our Founder's vision of America. Period. Killing innocent children for a $50 co-pay wasn't in their vision. Everyone has a right to life. Banning guns wasn't in their vision. That should not be infringed upon. How about standing up for THOSE words used by our Founders? You've got to take a deep look into your values if you think the things he did in Mass are okay at any level. To think he'd actually leave everything to the states is a JOKE!!! Those were his values, before being governor and AS governor. He appointed gay activist to the Mass supreme court. He willfully did many liberal things. Because he is a liberal.

His "states rights" excuse is a talking point, plain & simple. Romney will be responsible for appointing judges at a federal level. He'll be responsible for a lot of things at a federal level. We need someone who will stand up for conservatism. Romney bent over to liberals in Mass and he'll bend over to liberals in Congress.

And if he wins the nomination, I promise you he will NOT win the general election. Only a solid conservative would beat Obama in a landslide. America is tired of socialism and Romney's record is covered in it.

It's the same song & dance the media gave us with McCain, Dole, etc. They always push RINOs in the primaries. Not only will Romney not attract swing voters (ask yourself, why would ANYONE vote for a candidate with no solid principles?), but the conservative base will also stay home. There are simply more people who vote based on values than there are "holding my nose to vote" people. He WILL lose if "we" nominate him.

76 posted on 11/25/2011 7:50:16 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: Theodore R.

I fear that a lot of Republicans are being scared into the “Romney is the only electable candidate” narrative without taking a good look into Romney’s liberal record before it’s too late. I pray this does not happen, because he is NOT electable.


77 posted on 11/25/2011 8:01:47 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: babygene
Is that the stuff you take before you have a colonostpy?”

It's been years since I took that stuff you take before a colonoscopy. I still get seriously nauseous just thinking about it.

78 posted on 11/25/2011 8:34:27 PM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: Lady4Liberty

You’re not doing a thing to address the 10th amendment or federalism.

I am not so certain what governors of different states might do in certain situations. I remember reading governor Reagan was criticized by some conservatives when he was in California for allowing some unsavory characters to remain on faculties at college campuses, when he had the apparent power to remove them.

I think those states rights ideas are very important principles to stick by, and you’ve merely glossed over them. To each his/her own, I guess.

I will be working to defeat Hussein. His agenda is the worst of any candidate.

Equating Hussein with any of the Republican candidates, if that is indeed what your’e doing, is as wrong as equating night and day.


79 posted on 11/25/2011 8:48:06 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: GeronL

“He can’t win”

Buchanan said if Romney is the nominee it would risk the creation of a 3rd party, and we have learned what that means.


80 posted on 11/25/2011 8:50:14 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: rockinqsranch
First time in a long time I’ve seen the Democrat come out in one of VDH’s articles. I noticed also that he has the gall to put Sara Palin in the same one liner with Giuliani as all about the money.

It’s rare, but this one reminds me he is a Democrat.

You're right! Tolik used to have a VDH ping list. I wonder if he would have posted or pinged for this essay. Like I wrote in comment# 1, I wonder if Victor had some holiday cheer before writing this essay.

81 posted on 11/25/2011 8:53:11 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
New Jersey governor Chris Christie and Florida senatoor Marco Rubio were always crowd favorites, and they’re certainly hard-charging conservatives.

That one statement tells me Hanson does not understand what Conservative means, and puts everything else he is trying to sell in the questionable category.
82 posted on 11/25/2011 9:16:09 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I will be working to defeat Hussein. His agenda is the worst of any candidate.

Equating Hussein with any of the Republican candidates, if that is indeed what your’e doing, is as wrong as equating night and day.


Those are admirable goals, so long as you NEVER vote for the pretend Republican Romney.

Otherwise, if you choose to vote for Romney if by some ill-wind of fate he is the nominee, then you are simply giving the GOP elite what they want, and they will keep on giving it to us forever.

It is far past time to put our foot down as conservatives and say no more!

We will not play their games, we will not be manipulated out of fear, we will demand they give us a conservative POTUS nominee or they lose our vote, period.
83 posted on 11/25/2011 9:20:49 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Recovering_Democrat; Jim Robinson
Then you are no conservative.

It's sad that you scream about the 10th amendment but you don't address Romney absolutely shredding the 2nd amendment, disregarding a child's right to life so far as to use tax money to pay for their murders, and everything else he did to spit on conservatism & the constitution. His record IS as liberal as any run of the mill liberal Democrat's. Whether you want to accept that or not, facts are facts. If I listed all the things on his record and all the positions he supported while hiding his name & party, you'd think you were reading a Democratic candidate's "achievements."

Again, he wasn't shouting "states rights" before he was governor and already held all those liberal positions outside of Massachusetts. He only SAYS he's a conservative now. He says anything he thinks it'll take to get elected. The man is a spineless liar.

He'll be back to being liberal Mitt in the general election because he thinks that can win him some moderate votes, with the assumption that the conservative base will all fall in line & vote for him like lemmings. I guarantee he thinks this will happen. And it won't.

Voting blindly because the person is a Republican in name only is not only moralless, it's also dangerous. A socialist by any other name is still a socialist. RINOs are the enemy from within.

84 posted on 11/25/2011 9:35:19 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: RetiredArmy

Well I don’t think Mitt’s a commie because he’s a raging capitalist but he will be a total do nothing. I’m with you on the thumbs down. Lets just nominate Herman or Newt and get it over with.


85 posted on 11/25/2011 9:40:52 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I really don’t care who it is; I want Obama out. The Republicans are complete sell-outs and everybody knows, but it will take decades to get the converatives in charge. I don’t think America is as conservative as some people let on. Everybody should realize by now that the sad reality is you are not going to see a conservative in the White House more than once every 50 years. America will be 80% brown by 2050. That means a fully Marxist country. I don’t think there is any conceivable way to stop that.


86 posted on 11/26/2011 1:35:40 AM PST by Force of Truth (Intelligence and virtue are preferable in a candidate, but I'd much rather he or she be chinchy.)
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To: Lady4Liberty; Jim Robinson

There was no “screaming” about the tenth amendment. There was a just, proper and fitting appeal to that part of the Constitution.

I also noted there were no perfect candidates in our field, and that all were flawed.

Kind of funny you fancy yourself the arbiter of conservatism. As you’ve apparently been posting here on FR for a whopping six months, maybe it would be good for you to learn the background and history of someone who has been posting here 10 years or more.

Amused, too, that you felt the need to “tattle” on me by sending a copy to Jim. Jim and I have engaged about the race one-on-one in other threads. He seems to have understood I am not promoting anyone, just trying to engage in an understanding of the current contest.

Perhaps you ought to try and understand that, too.


87 posted on 11/26/2011 3:42:19 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Force of Truth

“I don’t think America is as conservative as some people let on”

I’m starting to have doubts myself. Who are the 41% who still think Barry is doing a good job?


88 posted on 11/26/2011 6:19:55 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: neverdem

Many like businessman Herman Cain’s straight-talking pragmatism. Yet more are worried that he might not know that China is a nuclear power, or that we recently joined the British and French in bombing Libya.


VDH thinks the above, and that “any other time” we’d love mitt. Guess he doesn’t have much of an understanding of conservatives today.


89 posted on 11/26/2011 6:25:37 AM PST by Yaelle (Herman Cain: the clever conservative with cojones.)
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To: neverdem

At least with Obama I will (still) have my enemies in front of me. IMO It is these blindside RINO charges that come form behind that are really killer.


90 posted on 11/26/2011 6:29:27 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Carter, inept and feckless, at least loved this country...

That is an assumption I don't consider necessarily valid. Think back on many of the things that occurred in the Carter Administration, and you'll get a chillingly different picture. That ineptness and fecklessness you describe may well have been an act to conceal deeper, darker motives, some of which have surfaced since...

the infowarrior

91 posted on 11/26/2011 7:26:01 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: charleywhiskey
So, what do you kids want, a Mormon or a Muslim?

Neither. Despite what the MSM and National Review would like us to think, you know that is still an option, right? The first vote of the primary season hasn't even been cast yet.

92 posted on 11/26/2011 7:32:37 AM PST by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: Theodore R.

“It’s nice that you won’t participate in nominating Mittens, but hundreds of thousands in early primary states will, and that seals the deal for us in despair.”

Their vote. They can use it as they wish - even foolishly, voting for Willard the rat.
I make a different choice.


93 posted on 11/26/2011 7:36:16 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: Farmer Dean
Romney's more like the Syrup of Ipecac candidate to me.

Running Romney as a candidate would make the election like playing strip poker with Helen Thomas.

94 posted on 11/26/2011 7:47:20 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Oldexpat

I think Victor short changed Newt . As does some pollsters who today are surprised that Newt’s immigration kerfuffle did not undo him.In Fla.he had a packed house and applause as he denied the dreaded Amnesty word. I suggest that we wait till the dust settles a bit before just crowning Mitt in a fit of pique. Oh and BTW, Mitt is not perfect but sure better than Obama any day.


95 posted on 11/26/2011 11:39:32 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: Recovering_Democrat

That’s nice. I don’t engage with RINOs. Have a nice day.


96 posted on 11/26/2011 11:48:27 AM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: infowarrior

I think Carter changed once he was out of office. The rejection was too much to bear, and he went overboard. Same with Gore. Both weren’t fit for the office, but they weren’t sinister....just wrong.

Carter served in the Navy, I think, admirably. And he had enough experience, unlike Hussein, to serve as a legislator and governor before leaping to the White House. But as a true outsider, he couldn’t even persuade his own PARTY to follow him. They recognized he wasn’t fit for the job almost instantly.

Gore was raised by his father for national office. I think he has issues with that part of his life. Liberals always said it was Dubya who was trying to prove something to his dad. I think it was Al. And look at what has happened to him since—lost his marriage, allegedly gone loco with massage geishas, and foisted unbelievable lies on the planet about global warming.


97 posted on 11/26/2011 12:32:12 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: neverdem

Romney will be Ricin for the GOP............................


98 posted on 11/26/2011 8:33:10 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Lady Lucky
Lot's more you could have said........

But darn good post!

99 posted on 11/26/2011 8:37:43 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Carter served in the Navy, I think, admirably.

He didn't just "serve in the Navy". He was one of Admiral Hyman Rickover's "nuclear whiz kids". This is the primary reason the idea that Carter was either feckless, or inept doesn't wash. You didn't become a nuclear officer in the US Navy demonstrating either of those things as a character trait, and Rickover was always monitoring his "boys".

Since he was neither feckless, nor inept, how does one explain the actions he took when he occupied the Oval Office to his country's detriment, time, and time again. I have long been of the opinion that J. E. Carter held some pretty dark secrets, and once he became older, his mask slipped several times, allowing us to see him as he really is. In truth, when he was running for President, the refrain was "Jimmy, we hardly know ye". Very telling, and true, even to this day...

the infowarrior

100 posted on 11/28/2011 8:43:47 AM PST by infowarrior
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