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Disparaging tweet about Gov. Sam Brownback lands Kansas teen in principalís office
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 11/23/11 | Suzanne Perez Tobias

Posted on 11/25/2011 7:26:01 PM PST by peggybac

A Kansas teenager is in trouble after mocking Gov. Sam Brownback during a mock legislative assembly for high school students.

Emma Sullivan, a senior at Shawnee Mission East High School in Prairie Village, was in Topeka on Monday as part of Kansas Youth in Government, a program for students interested in politics and government.

During the session, in which Brownback addressed the group, Sullivan posted on her personal Twitter page:

“Just made mean comments at gov brownback and told him he sucked, in person #heblowsalot”

On Tuesday, Sullivan was called to her principal’s office and told that the tweet had been flagged by someone on Brownback’s staff and reported to organizers of the Youth in Government program.

The principal “laid into me about how this was unacceptable and an embarrassment,” Sullivan said. “He said I had created this huge controversy and everyone was up in arms about it … and now he had to do damage control.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
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1 posted on 11/25/2011 7:26:03 PM PST by peggybac
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To: peggybac

Posters are hammering Brownback but none seem to care about the behavior and language of this teenager. Had I done such a thing, my parents would have made me apologize to Brownback and the school, then I would have been grounded for weeks. Am I so behind-the-times that behavior like this is acceptable behavior and no one bats an eye?


2 posted on 11/25/2011 7:30:23 PM PST by peggybac
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To: peggybac

Probably a candidate to join Young Democrats of KS; KS never elects Democrat senators but they do governors.


3 posted on 11/25/2011 7:31:21 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: Theodore R.

I happened to see that the comments are all over DU. Stupid kid picked it up there I ‘m sure. She is going to reap the consequences.


4 posted on 11/25/2011 7:38:24 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: peggybac

Nice to know that the State of Kansas has the resources to allow state employees to monitor the social media postings of high school girls.


5 posted on 11/25/2011 7:40:22 PM PST by stormer
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To: peggybac

Alright, I’ve not read the whole thing yet - must go - but how is she in trouble for a “tweet” (what stupid lingo...)? Did she ACTUALLY do what she twitted? Or is this seriously just electronic?


6 posted on 11/25/2011 7:47:29 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: peggybac

The teen is an idiot, but making a big deal out of her tweet is even bigger idiocy.


7 posted on 11/25/2011 7:48:43 PM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: HerrBlucher

I agree


8 posted on 11/25/2011 7:59:25 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: peggybac

Good for Brownback. It’s about time we started joining the battle.


9 posted on 11/25/2011 8:03:32 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: peggybac
The behavior of the child is the responsibility of the parents. So if they decided that was appropriate I agree. However if I allow my child to make statements on twitter. That is not something the school needs to address.

I also find it frightening that several freepers thinks it's ok for a public official to get a school girl in trouble for her opinion & free speech.

10 posted on 11/25/2011 8:16:16 PM PST by call meVeronica
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To: peggybac

Ah, a future Democrat candidate for president..........


11 posted on 11/25/2011 8:17:56 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: peggybac

“She is a registered Democrat”

No! Who would have guessed!!!!


12 posted on 11/25/2011 8:20:48 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: peggybac

Even if she told him “you suck” to his face, who cares? She has an opinion, he is an elected official. Is he supposed to be protected from the opinions of teenagers? What kind of wussy people are we that we can’t hear an insult from a moron without going and making a big deal about it?


13 posted on 11/25/2011 8:21:51 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: BobL

I assumed all politicians monitored electronic media, am I being naive here? I think what upsets me the most is the lack of manners this gal had and how many believe this behavior is OK. Yes, she has every right to say or write what she thinks, I’m just baffled how most people think this rudeness and language is alright. Brownback’s Facebook page is being bombarded with the rudest comments - so tacky.


14 posted on 11/25/2011 8:29:44 PM PST by peggybac
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To: peggybac

I’m not crazy about former Senator Switchback and I’m not a teen or a democrat. Will Kansas come after me if I tweet about it?


15 posted on 11/25/2011 8:48:38 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: peggybac

“I assumed all politicians monitored electronic media, am I being naive here?”

Probably not now. A year ago I would think most Republicans would ask “What is the Electronic Media?”

“I think what upsets me the most is the lack of manners this gal had and how many believe this behavior is OK. Yes, she has every right to say or write what she thinks, I’m just baffled how most people think this rudeness and language is alright. Brownback’s Facebook page is being bombarded with the rudest comments - so tacky”

Agree...that’s why we need to start calling this out. We need to show the hate that left-wing parents are instilling on their kids. And show it every time.


16 posted on 11/25/2011 8:53:26 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: peggybac

Very stupid gov.


17 posted on 11/25/2011 8:57:08 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: BobL

I’d love to leave comments on Facebook but she doesn’t live far from me and I’d probably have my house egged, or worse!


18 posted on 11/25/2011 8:59:05 PM PST by peggybac
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To: freekitty

Very stupid snotty ill-mannered kid and very poor parents.


19 posted on 11/25/2011 8:59:20 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Waryone

You’d make a good KS newspaper editor. They’re all RATS who hate Brownback, too.


20 posted on 11/25/2011 9:01:02 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: peggybac

What’s is all this whining of the little Leftist and her right of “free speech”? The state didn’t incarcerate her for it nor is it likely to. I’m unaware the First Amendment covers boorish behavior.

She was at a school function posting BS about her meeting the governor on school time. She should be punished in some way if she can’t handle the responsibility of participating in school activities.


21 posted on 11/25/2011 9:06:57 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: peggybac

“I’d love to leave comments on Facebook but she doesn’t live far from me and I’d probably have my house egged, or worse!”

Bummer...she needs some comments from us.


22 posted on 11/25/2011 9:09:28 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: BobL

Jerks befriended Brownback on Facebook and they’re going nuts on his page. Very rude and inconsiderate.


23 posted on 11/25/2011 9:22:06 PM PST by peggybac
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To: peggybac

I cannot believe what FReepers are actually posting! Political speech in a political forum and then some asshole politician pressures a school official to make the gal’s life miserable?

Lucky for you I need to reset the PC because I have several epithets for a lot of posters on this site. Starting with you.


24 posted on 11/25/2011 9:43:03 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54

I’m speaking of manners and civility going by the wayside. Don’t know why that upsets you so, but that’s OK.


25 posted on 11/25/2011 10:04:25 PM PST by peggybac
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To: peggybac

A list of terms poped into my mind while reading the above excerpt.

Freedom of speach
Thought crime
Censorship
Official oppression
Schools as law enforcement

I’m sure the students have learned a lot of lessons from this incident.


26 posted on 11/25/2011 10:26:46 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: ozzymandus

I didn’t say I hate him. I just have problems with senators who switch their illegal pandering votes at the last minute when they realize their side has lost.


27 posted on 11/25/2011 10:49:02 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: peggybac

Who gives a rodent’s posterior what this smart-a$$ teenager thinks? Apparently Brownback’s office does. It should have just been ignored and dealt with quietly. His office shouldn’t have been complaining.


28 posted on 11/25/2011 10:59:46 PM PST by lmr
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To: ozzymandus

I agree with you.


29 posted on 11/26/2011 12:14:58 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: stormer
Nice to know that the State of Kansas has the resources to allow state employees to monitor the social media postings of high school girls.

"...the tweet had been flagged by someone on Brownback’s staff and reported..."

30 posted on 11/26/2011 3:26:05 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: peggybac

Sooo, so much for free speech?


31 posted on 11/26/2011 3:38:36 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy is just a quota boy)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Yep. This article is poison. It promotes psychotic behavior while calling it free speech.

We know schools and politicians have their share
of power psychoics.

True children victims of sex abuse by homosexual psychotics in schools should be the focus.


32 posted on 11/26/2011 3:51:50 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: peggybac

I think the student has the right to say or think what they want about the gov.

That said, it is rude to tweet such things during an event and cause disruption.

Two different things and ideas.


33 posted on 11/26/2011 3:56:57 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: peggybac

Parents should be in charge of this behavior, but government should not. The state should have no role in a person expressing an opinion about a government official, especially an elected one. However, parents should be able to dictate the behaviors of their minor children as they see fit.


34 posted on 11/26/2011 5:32:29 AM PST by NYCslicker
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To: peggybac

> ... Youth in Government program.

Would that be the Hitler Youth program?


35 posted on 11/26/2011 6:37:13 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Defeat Obama. End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: peggybac
In an attempt to restore some sanity to this discussion:

Student government events are very selective and hard to get into. Which means that this girl's presence was at the expense of many of her classmates who couldn't go.

School functions always have a "code of conduct" attached. Students are expected to be respectful and appropriate. They don't have to agree, but they do have to disagree in a respectful and appropriate manner (are we not trying to inculcate maturity in schools?).

This girl tweeted that she told a member of government that he "sucked" to his face at this school-sponsored event. Now, I don't know how many of you think "You suck!" is a respectful and appropriate form of disapproval (but if so, please go back to watching the Jersey Shore and sucking off the government teat... the rest of this discussion is for the adults in the room).

The girl was rightly called on the carpet for her manner of speaking. The student should not have expressed her disapproval in a manner that would put her and her fellow students in a bad light (would you be defending her if she flicked him off and urinated on his foot, too?), and she certainly should not have published that fact in order to draw attention to it.

This has nothing to do with her opinion, and everything to with her choice to voice her opinion in a rude way during a forum where her participation was a privilege in the first place.

36 posted on 11/26/2011 7:42:58 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: trebb
I'm not sure if you're agreeing with my concern or are unaware that “someone on Brownback’s staff” is an employee of the good people and government of the State of Kansas. A ridiculous waste of resources by a petty and thin-skinned ass...
37 posted on 11/26/2011 8:58:01 AM PST by stormer
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

What was your opinion of a congressman shouting out “You lie!” during a recent State of the Union address?


38 posted on 11/26/2011 9:02:32 AM PST by stormer
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

THANK YOU! That is why I posted the article. I’m focusing on the behavior and actions of this girl and how few are mentioning it on the websites I’ve visited. I would have been in so much trouble had I done this. It would have appalled and disappointed my parents if I used such language and acted in such a disrespectful way toward an adult.


39 posted on 11/26/2011 10:35:16 AM PST by peggybac
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To: peggybac

That’s so gay.


40 posted on 11/26/2011 10:36:39 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Galts Gulch" <> Communist China)
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To: stormer
What was your opinion of a congressman shouting out “You lie!” during a recent State of the Union address?

I thought it was awesome myself. However Wilson was not thrown in jail because of it but he was punished for his outburst.

In September 2009, Wilson received international attention when he interrupted a speech by U.S. President Barack Obama to a joint session of Congress by shouting "You lie!"[2][3] Wilson apologized to Obama, who accepted the apology, and the incident resulted in a formal rebuke by the House of Representatives.[4]

So are you saying that this high school twit should be punished like Joe Wilson was for his behavior?

41 posted on 11/26/2011 12:05:15 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: stormer
I'm not sure if you're agreeing with my concern or are unaware that “someone on Brownback’s staff” is an employee of the good people and government of the State of Kansas. A ridiculous waste of resources by a petty and thin-skinned ass...

My mistake, I was unaware of what you said above - I thought you had missed that it wasn't the school district per se.

That said, you are absolutely correct - way too much time and resources spent on irrelevant issues by public employees.

42 posted on 11/26/2011 12:40:22 PM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: peggybac

Both Brownback and the girl, are jerks.


43 posted on 11/26/2011 1:32:52 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
School functions always have a “code of conduct” attached. Students are expected to be respectful and appropriate. They don't have to agree, but they do have to disagree in a respectful and appropriate manner (are we not trying to inculcate maturity in schools?).
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If this was a private school or homeschool I would absolutely agree with you. However....You are missing the fundamental problem and conflict here.

Problem and conflict:

It is impossible to resolve the conflict between First Amendment Rights and freedom of conscience and compulsory socialist K-12 schooling. Our nation's government schools trash every First Amendment Right ( speech, press, assembly, and exercise of religion) and they are not religiously neutral. At the moment our socialist schools establish the religion of atheistic secular humanism.

There is a solution: Begin the process of privatizing K-12 schooling. Let these matters be settled privately in a private setting between parents and their child's privately chosen private teachers and principal.

If this were a private school, there would be no story to report because private schools ( freely chosen) have every right to regulate behavior of their clients in the same way that all private businesses do.

44 posted on 11/26/2011 1:56:20 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: peggybac

The severe restriction of 1st Amendment Rights, and in this particular case specifically targeted 1st Amendment Political Speech, under the legalism of in loco parentis authority of Education Officials is an exercise in the destruction of Individual Liberties in a failed Education System that was by design made to create lower class worker bees.

Doesn’t matter what the young woman said to Brownback as long as it wasn’t legally designated a “threat”, she has 1st Amendment Rights that exceed any in loco parentis laws of this country.

You either support the 1st Amendment and free speech and free political speech, or you don’t. You have made it clear you do not. Care to prove me wrong?


45 posted on 11/26/2011 4:41:31 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

We agree about code of conduct and the purpose of a school system to inculcate a sense of civic responsibility upon it’s students.

However,
1. She did not say anything even remotely threatening or illegal.
2. She did not interfere nor disrupt with the event.
3. The school administrators can NOT censor purely political speech in what amounts to a private conversatoin held in public between two individuals that is neither threatening nor disruptive, especially when one is a public elected official.
4. If she had wrote a sign and waved it with the same words on it, it would have been a problem. However, the online twitter post is offsite, which means the school is hanging on to a very thin thread of in loco parentis standing to do anything to the young woman in regards to punishment.
5. If the school didn’t have a specific policy prohibiting students from using cell phones on school time, school grounds, and/or during field trips, the school has no standing.

A couple of letters from her parent’s lawyers and she’ll get a written apology from the school board.

If her parents are liberals, and she learned this socio-political ideology at home, it is her 1st Amendment Right to act like an idiot in public, no matter the school system code of conduct.

Or should schools return to late 19th century’s ‘conformity at all costs’ philosophies?

Or should school systems pick winners and losers of extra curricula educational opportunities based upon the political party preferences of the parents, student, or school system?

In NJ, it is SOP to deny extra-curricula funding to school systems in areas that did not vote for election winners. How far should Brownback’s media massagers go in raising stakes in this tiff?


46 posted on 11/26/2011 4:55:17 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Please read my posts.


47 posted on 11/26/2011 8:00:59 PM PST by peggybac
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To: peggybac

But what business does the school have in getting involved in this?


48 posted on 11/27/2011 4:43:59 PM PST by Coronal
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To: call meVeronica
I also find it frightening that several freepers thinks it's ok for a public official to get a school girl in trouble for her opinion & free speech.

Exactly. We say much nastier things about Democratic Governors every day on FR - is somebody going to make us apologize? She didn't even do what she twitted about.
49 posted on 11/27/2011 6:33:49 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Seems like ‘ideology’ gets in the way of seeing the right to freedom of speech. She has every right to say what she said. You can criticize her comments, but not her right to express those comments. I say the same thing about the President of the United States. What would be some Freeper’s reaction if the President of the United states did what Brownback’s office did?


50 posted on 11/28/2011 7:41:43 AM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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