Posted on 11/26/2011 7:21:46 AM PST by greyfoxx39
Early and volatile, the Republican Presidential nomination race—at least for now—appears to be settling into a contest between consistent front runner Mitt Romney and the latest surging “non-Romney alternative,” former House Speaker, Newt Gingrich.
Unfortunately, the CNN/Heritage Foundation/American Enterprise televised debate of 11/22/11 did not highlight the yawning gap between these frontrunning contenders’ views on the existential threat doctrine of our Islamic enemies: jihad and its motivational, sacralized religio-political “law,” Sharia.
During an interview with US News reporter Dan Gligoff published June 3, 2009, Mitt Romney offered the following bizarre observation about the living Islamic institution of jihad, ostensibly to “clarify” remarks made during an earlier speech at the Heritage Foundation:
I spoke about three major threats America faces on a long term basis. Jihadism is one of them, and that is not Islam.
Romney—notwithstanding this distressingly ridiculous pronouncement—remains, for now, the frontrunning contender for the Republican Presidential nomination.
Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, in stark contrast to the muddled and craven nonsense uttered by Romney on jihad during his US News interview, delivered an astute and courageous address at The American Enterprise Institute, July 29, 2010, which provided an irrefragably accurate if blunt characterization of the existential threat posed by Islam’s living, self-professed mission: to impose Sharia, its totalitarian religio-political “law,” globally.
With vanishingly rare intellectual honesty and resolve, Gingrich described how normative Sharia—antithetical to bedrock Western legal principles—by “divine,” immutable diktat, rejects freedom of conscience, while sanctioning violent jihadism, absurd, misogynistic “rules of evidence” (four male witnesses for rape), barbarous punishments (stoning for adultery), and polygamy:
Sharia in its natural form has principles and punishments totally abhorrent to the Western world, and the underlying basic belief which is that law comes directly from God and is therefore imposed upon humans and no human can change the law without it being an act of apostasy is a fundamental violation of a tradition in the Western system which goes back to Rome, Athens, and Jerusalem and which has evolved in giving us freedom across the planet on a scale we can hardly imagine and which is now directly threatened by those who would impose it.
Moreover, Gingrich warned about efforts—deliberate, or unwitting–to represent Sharia as a benign system:
So let me also be quite clear that the rules are radical and horrific. I think again it’s fascinating that even when people go out and do polling and they say to, for example, Muslims in general, do you believe in Sharia, they don’t then explain what Sharia is. Sharia becomes like would you like to be a Rotarian and it sounds okay.
Gingrich’s unflinching portrayal of the existential threat Sharia represents—whether or not this totalitarian system is imposed by violent, or non-violent means—was accompanied by a clarion call for concrete measures to oppose any Sharia encroachment on the U.S. legal code:
Stealth jihadis use political, cultural, societal, religious, intellectual tools; violent jihadis use violence. But in fact they’re both engaged in jihad and they’re both seeking to impose the same end state which is to replace Western civilization with a [radical] imposition of Sharia.
The fight against Sharia and the madrassas in mosques which teach hatred and fanaticism is the heart of the enemy movement from which the terrorists spring forth. It’s time we had a national debate on this. One of the things I’m going to suggest today is a federal law which says no court anywhere in the United States under any circumstance is allowed to consider Sharia as a replacement for American law.
Subsequently, J. Mark Campbell of The United West obtained a video-recorded commitment from Newt Gingrich to pursue and prosecute the major Muslim Brotherhood front groups currently operating unencumbered in the US and being courted for “Muslim outreach” by feckless politicians, policymakers, and even law enforcement officials.
The Holy Land Foundation trial made unmistakably clear the agenda of this spider’s web of Muslim Brotherhood organizations—which includes unindicted co-conspirators CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), ISNA (Islamic Society of North America), and NAIT (North American Islamic Trust)—as stated explicitly by Yusuf al-Qaradawi acolyte Mohamed Akram, in his “An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America”, May 22, 1991 (translated here, on “Page 7 of 18,” bottom center pagination):
The process of settlement is a “Civilization-Jihadist Process” with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and by the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.
“Frontrunner” Mitt Romney needs to provide the same unequivocal commitment, immediately, to this critically important national security goal in the struggle against jihadism.
Newt Gingrich has set the standard for honest and informed discussion of Islamic totalitarianism which should be expected of all contenders—a standard Mitt Romney, thus far, fails, miserably.
Just more anti Mormon blah blah blah
That’s good to hear.
Jonboy - We Mormons stood “side-by-side” with other Christians to fight for passage of Prop 8 and other conservative causes and during that time no one called us members of a cult or that we were not Christian (a/k/a “going straight to hell”). However, after the victories were won, and when it became convenient, many of these so-called Christians turned on us.
So don’t talk to me about standing side-by-side and all that drivel. If you really want to know what we believe go to www.lds.org or www.mormon.org.
Those who worship the anti Mormon god - by that I mean those who are obsessed with trashing me and my faith - have been semi successful in silencing us by their dog-pile strategies.
Most of the members of the LDS faith have been banned from posting here. There are only a couple of us left.
The dog pile continues . . .
We need to get a therapist who can deal with cults and deprogramming cult members because there’s no use in using logic and facts on Mormons, especially when they can’t even the acknowledge simple truths.
For threats of law suits and violence against other F.R. members.
Saundra Duffy - do you really believe that we have short memories?
Listing the differences? Don’t hold your breath; that would hurt their cause. What is their cause? To trash The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and all of its 14 million members world-wide.
Unfortunately the deck is stacked against Mormons here on FR. Most of the Mormon FReepers have already been banned. Just a few us us left - and a few brave non LDS FReepers who support freedom of religion.
Noted that you too have arrived as a regular...you would do well to listen and learn some more as you have in the past. It’s hard to ‘kick against the prick Sandra’...but you’ll eventually see and understand the serious errors in Mormonism....otherwise there would be no attraction for you to be here.
Interesting comment Sandra since that is not Christ's position. Makes one wonder which side people are on when they can and do encourage others to go the wrong way and practice whatever religion they desire....and we know there are many false religions and cults to entice people into darkness...a darkness that does not reveal itself on the surface and most who fall into that darkness cannot identify it as such once they are sucked into it. Jesus spoke about that too.."the blind leading the blind"...that is what Mormonism is.
Yes indeed and he saw that politicians were not seriously looking at this threat for what it is. They still don't. The truth be known they enable and support it by not addressing it for what it is. Stealth Jihad is going to kill this nation if it's not stopped...Newt identifies it's tentacles.....and it's agenda completely.
He did say there's only one way, didn't He?
Noted that you too have arrived as a regular...you would do well to listen and learn some more as you have in the past. “It’s hard to ‘kick against the prick Sandra’...but you’ll eventually see and understand the serious errors in Mormonism....otherwise there would be no attraction for you to be here.”
What conceit you have, to think that you can crawl inside Saundra’s mind (it’s Saundra, not Sandra, get the name right) and know how she really feels about her own religion. Geez, the only prick she should kick against is you.
Seizing the opportunity to turn any story about Romney into a pity party and a whoa is me statement.
Yawn
As a Mormon, have you anything constructive to add?
“As a Mormon, have you anything constructive to add?”
Well, at least you are consistent in your lies as to my religion. It won’t work though, as right minded Freepers know otherwise. But your hatred of Mormonism overtakes any pretence to rationality.
There is more to this election than just conservatism....and that's why people are looking for a leader who has the strength, ability and desire to attack that which has put this nation in dire straits...and closest to conservatism as possible given the nature and status of where this nation stands today....both nationally and internationally....and it's anything but good.
Newt has the wherewithal to set a course out of this quicksand and he's more than willing to rile feathers and stir up the dust to wake people up....like him or not is not his purpose....which becomes more apparent as he continues....he is set to wake people up and see where we are...not where we think we are......and it's time to see the truth.
That bridge is already here: Just learned of CHRISLAM yesterday, and did a Google there is much there to read and view: Here is Jack Van Impe.
http://thestrongdelusion.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1729&Itemid=9
Hey, Sandy. How about you say what is incorrect about the statements from the author of the article when it comes to Romney.
Did he or did he not say what is being alleged?
Rather than whine about being put upon, defend Romney’s attitude against islam.
Those who are opposed to mormonISM post links, lds words, directly to lds owned sites, yet you dismiss them as a dog pile. Ok, that’s your tack, this however is a political article about political issues.
If the author is wrong about Romney, why is he wrong. Show some evidence that he is wrong.
I take it then that you do not agree with the teachings of your own religion’s prophets and ‘apostles’ as recorded in your Journal of Discourses? Would you like for me to post a few which expose your Mormonic definition of God and Jesus? ... You don’t know when to keep your trap shut, Sandy!
What has been said that is a lie? FR posters opposed to mormonISM post links to lds sites, to articles written by lds members, IE provide evidence.
Show a lie about lds/mormonISM that have been posted on FR that you can counter.
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