Skip to comments.Gingrich says he is 'not for amnesty,' defends immigration stance
Posted on 11/26/2011 1:01:37 PM PST by presidio9
GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich defended his immigration stance Friday, claiming that he was "not for amnesty."
I am not for amnesty for anyone. I am not for a path to citizenship for anybody who got here illegally, Gingrich said at a town hall event in Naples, Florida according to media reports.
But I am for a path to legality for those people whose ties run so deeply in America that it would truly be a tragedy to try and rip their family apart," said the former House Speaker.
Gingrich has been under fire from some anti-illegal immigration groups since last Tuesday's GOP debate where he spoke out against deporting many illegal immigrant families.
During Fridays town hall, Gingrich said that if elected he would make securing the border a priority and would support efforts to make English the country's official language.
He said he would also establish a guest-worker program to allow migrants to work in the U.S. But under such a program, businesses which hired undocumented workers would be hit with fines.
"I would have very, very stiff economic penalties for anyone who hires somebody who is not legally inside the system," Gingrich vowed.
At last Tuesdays GOP debate, Gingrich said that he supported efforts to allow tax-paying illegal immigrants without criminal records to remain in the country or gain citizenship.
If you've come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home, period, Gingrich had said. If you've been here 25 years and you got three kids and two grandkids, you've been paying taxes and obeying the law, you belong to a local church, I don't think we're going to separate you from your family, uproot you forcefully and kick you out.
"I don't see how the party that says it's the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy which destroys families which have been here a quarter-century," he added. "I'm prepared to take the heat for saying let's be humane in enforcing the law."
Gingrich has faced criticism for his comments from other Republicans. Rep. Michelle Bachmann (Minn.) said in an interview that Gingrich had the most liberal position on illegal immigration of any of the candidates in the race.
Influential Iowa congressman Rep. Steve King (R) described Gingrichs proposals as a form of amnesty
I wouldnt agree with him on that policy, King added, suggesting that Gingrich had hurt his chances of winning his endorsement prior to the Iowa caucuses.
The furor over Gingrichs immigration stance comes as new national polls place him ahead of Romney in the GOP field.
You can't have it both ways, Newt. You came out for amnesty, but you're now trying to sidestep it because the people are letting you know that your viewpoint is a LOSER.
Newt's "explanation" is completely schizo. He says he's not for amnesty, then goes on to explain that he wants to set up a program for amnesty. Just like Perry, Newt fell on the amnesty-sword and he can't un-ring that bell now.
Gingrich is right on and makes sense. Foolish posters think almost 20 million illegals can be deported. It involves more than just Mexicans.
Please, rape them long enough and you become family?
These are the people having the US flag banned at schools on May 5th while they carry Mexican flags, cheer on foreign soccer teams and have no loyalty to this country at all.
“Rep. Michelle Bachmann (Minn.) said in an interview that Gingrich had the most liberal position on illegal immigration of any of the candidates in the race.”
Here is the typical slimy double speak of a shyster lawyer. She is on video saying about the same thing as Gingrich in one of the prior debates. This woman is a liar and will say anything to get attention.
Of all those running, I rate her at the bottom of the barrel right there with her new found buddy Glenn Beck, who is another opportunist who will suck up to anyone to get attention.
Nobody thinks that.
You cut off the benefits and they leave on their own.
No more welfare, no more free schools, no more free ER, no more driving without licenses and insurance etc etc
The devil is always in details. Let’s just not have any!
Deja vu. That's what John McCain said also.
Let me guess .. he wants to be Romney II and just say what he thinks will get him elected.
Sorry Newt. Go away.
Good idea. Read Newts 10 step immigration plan here.
Copy and paste to real conservatives.
Im no fan of Amnesty, definitely dont want to give citizenship and favor mandatory e-verify...but would you vote for this man if you heard this answer....?
Perry was pounded for this. It is so ridiculous to make this such a big issue when history proves than no matter who gets in the WH none of this will ever change short of a complete changeover and revamp. So why throw out candidate after candidate over this? Perry is more conservative than Gingrich but was dismissed.ALL need too think before we have Romney or Obama.Perry may be our only hope.
Actually, this is philosphy is at the core of the Gingrich solution. Nobody who can't pay their own way, including health insurance, gets to stay.
Yes, and pay special attention to section 6.
6. Create a path to earned legality for some of the millions of people who are here
outside the law ILLEGALLY.
Rush nailed it (as he usally does) when he opined that once you make these illegals "legal," how long doe anyone think it will be, before the ACLU files a lawsusit (appropriately "Judge shopped") and argues it is "Unconstitutional" to make these people "legal" while refusing to grant them "Citizenship?"
Probably about as long as it takes to read this comment.
Moreover, HOW is one going to "prove" length of time in country?
These MILLIONS will be put on the "Honor System" (yeah right!!!) and almost all will swear on their Mother's grave or bible, or whatever, they have lived here 25 years and 1 month.
No "Amnesty" Newt?
Maybe not "de facto," but certainly "de jure" and if it "Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.......ITS AMNESTY!"
Now we have TWO BURRITOS. Perry and Newt. White on the outside and beans on the inside.
What the answer to all these illegals who have been here for 25 years is....”Well we let them overstay for 25 stinking years, enough is enough and its time to go back to Mejico. Plus, they can take all the money and knowledge they gained illegally. Can’t beat that.
Round up 200,000 a month. Thats just 4000 per State. LOL. Ok California and Texas would have higher quotas. Still that gets you to TEN MILLION in ONE TERM.
I doubt it. I don’t believe anything he says. Did he want to pay for his own limo driver? Of course not, thats our job. Millions from Freddie Mac for an hour of “work” a month... whats the real story? He was giving them legitimacy to get the GOP to back off oversight of the “model organization”
He is totally corrupt
People that fall for this plan are dummer than doorknobs. Look what creating a quasi-legal status in “resident” did for Texas. Taxpayers are on the hook for the differential between instate vs. out-of-state tuition rates for ingrate DREAMERS.Then as pointed out shrewdly by Rush a court case will easily create an “equal protection” lawsuit granting equal rights to “residents” as citizens. Take note of the AG lawsuit from Louisiana regarding distorted political representation by counting illegals in the census. This boys and girls is called “loss of the political nation” and will equal a taxpayer funded takeover of your nation paid for in blood. Is that really what you want?
Enforce the laws...its never been done EXCEPT by the courageous move by states like AL,AZ,GA,SC......ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE ENFORCEMENT A CHANCE.......
Newt voted for it before he voted against it. Newt is sounding a lot like John Kerry these days.
Look: I get that you people are not satisfied with Gingrich. Some of you clearly hate the man. That is your right. But spamming threads with nothing but attacks and no solutions is not productive. This party his less than six weeks to come up with a viable alternative to Mitt Romney, or the music stops and that’s who we’re left with. The responsible thing to to would be to offer an alternative candidate and his or her serious alternative.
Nobody thinks that the govt. could or should go out and deport 20 million illegals. Your cheesehead argument is used by the pro-amnesty crowd everyday.
The answer is: enforce the laws, all of them, and the illegals will self-deport. It’s been VERY successful where implemented.
Yes, and Perry has never been for amnesty, or open borders.
And I don't hate Newt. When you say something like that you sound like a liberal who says we hate Obama because we don't like his politics. We can oppose the man w/o hating him.
Free Republic is about promoting and defending conservatism, not the liberal position of amnesty. If you continue posting pro-amnesty pieces conservatives will continue rebuking them. Get used to it.
If you are going to accuse us of "Hating" Newt, at least do us the courtesy of proving your point by posting the occasions where we have shown we hate him.
Oh for Pete's sake! If you don't like the word "hate," disregard it. The clear suggestion was that a more valuable use of everyone's time would be for you to be posting alternatives instead of single minded attacks. However, if you prefer only the attacks, then, yeah, "hate" sounds about right from where I'm sitting.
Liberal tactic #3.
I don't hate Newt. I think he would make a great VP.
Again, name your alternative, and why you like their own plan so much.
Rick Perry's open border speech:
"Thank you Senator Lucio. President Nevarez, UT-Pan American is to be commended for its vision and leadership in hosting this unprecedented border summit in the beautiful Texas town of Edinburg.
... The NAFTA agreement not only signaled a new era of economic possibility, but a new era of bi-national cooperation. That is why it is wrong, and inherently detrimental to our relationship with Mexico for the U.S. Congress to pursue a protectionist policy that forbids Mexican trucks from U.S. roadways.
... Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region.
... And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. Thats why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.
... President Foxs vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. "
They won’t do what they say.
That is what I am saying.
I could care less what he says now, his past shows us he cannot be trusted.
I like my plan because it benefits the American taxpayer and American family. And because it does not involve rewarding the ILLEGAL invaders that Newt wants to make legal.
Sorry to disappoint you, but Jim Robinson is not running for president. I agree with everything he is saying, but attacking Mitt Romney’s opponents without offering an alternative guarantees that we end up with Mitt Romney.
“If it comes down to Gingrich Vs. Romney, then no question... Go Newt!!!” -Jim Robinson
Not a solution.
Your plan, my plan, and Jim's plans are irrelvant if no candidate is planning on implementing them. You are wasting all of our time.
I like my plan where I'm married to Jennifer Connelly.
With the low cost of travel today, phone calls, webcams, etc., geographic separation doesn’t mean nearly what it used to. If you came illegally and have grandchildren now, your children are all grown up. You can visit them once or twice a year just like people who live on the other side of the country do, talk with them on the phone every night, see new pictures every week.
Where in the world did you get that idea?
Yes, Yes, That speech is “contingent” on Mexico being like Canada.
You know he is not for open borders.
OK, I’ll name my candidate as Rick Perry. And I won’t attack Newt on this issue, he and Rick both have workable solutions on the immigration issue. Here in Texas, immigrant workers, both legal and not so legal, have been invited here to work for at least the last 45 years that I can recall. Most, if not all of them caused no trouble, nor did they start to “milk” the system until the last decade or so. No candidate is going to “round ‘em all up” and deport them.
But just to be clear: if border security is accomplished, you can envision some sort of path to citizenship for people who are here illegally.
Rick Perry: Sure.