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Expert unease over deadly flu virus 'created' in Dutch laboratory(biological WMD?)
Dutch News ^ | 11/25/11

Posted on 11/26/2011 4:57:11 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Expert unease over deadly flu virus 'created' in Dutch laboratory

Friday 25 November 2011

Dutch scientists have created a flu virus which is so deadly there is doubt about whether the research should be published, the Volkskrant reports on Friday.

The paper says American experts are worried detailed information could fall into the wrong hands and that terrorists could recreate the virus as a weapon. The fears are notable because the work was carried out on behalf of the National Institutes of Health in the US.

The research team, led by Ron Fouchier, professor of virology at Erasmus teaching hospital, was able to create a highly infectious variant of the bird flu virus H5N1. H5N1 rarely transfers from animal to human, but if it does, the infection is often fatal.

(Excerpt) Read more at dutchnews.nl ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ai; avianflu; birdflu; cbw; depopulation; dutchlab; dutchlabvirus; dutchvirus; economy; genetricengineering; genocide; h5n1; influenza; resources; wmd
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1 posted on 11/26/2011 4:57:13 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

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2 posted on 11/26/2011 4:58:34 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Dutch scientists have created a flu virus which is so deadly...”

How do they know?


3 posted on 11/26/2011 5:02:55 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for posting. Very interesting.

life/health BUMP!


4 posted on 11/26/2011 5:03:26 PM PST by PGalt
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To: TigerLikesRooster
What were they thinking?Why would anyone want to create a killer virus like this?
5 posted on 11/26/2011 5:03:37 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Shades of Twelve Monkeys; could be the beginning of the end.


6 posted on 11/26/2011 5:04:47 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: TigerLikesRooster
and they did this because...???
7 posted on 11/26/2011 5:06:38 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Jack Hammer

Have no fear Obama will save us.


8 posted on 11/26/2011 5:07:06 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: Farmer Dean

Maybe it only targets white people?

just kidding


9 posted on 11/26/2011 5:07:12 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Farmer Dean

Hey, what could possibly go wrong?


10 posted on 11/26/2011 5:08:20 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
WTF are these lunatics doing "creating" a virus anyway?

This is another "you can't make this shit up"...story.

The research team, led by Ron Fouchier, professor of virology at Erasmus teaching hospitalought to be captured and put away in a Dutch dungeon for thinking up this "experiment"...

It would be really interesting to know just what they had in mind....

11 posted on 11/26/2011 5:09:39 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We simply need a legal doctrine where if anyone dies from this pathogen, the good doctor goes to prison for murder. Let him immerse his petri dishes in Chlorox, or take his chances. He’s nothing more than a modern day Doctor Frankenstein and his monster is in a cage... for now.


12 posted on 11/26/2011 5:09:48 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: GeronL

Don’t give them any ideas.


13 posted on 11/26/2011 5:10:32 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Doesn’t every modern zombie movie start out sort of like this? Government or some rogue wacko scientist creates deadly strain of something... it gets released and then we have to start shooting zombies in the head. ... sigh.


14 posted on 11/26/2011 5:11:34 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Farmer Dean
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six comes to mind...
15 posted on 11/26/2011 5:11:41 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Am I alone in thinking it really is kind of weird that no one ever reads the posted articles anymore.
I don’t mean never, rather, hardly ever.


16 posted on 11/26/2011 5:11:48 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: 43north

Bingo!


17 posted on 11/26/2011 5:12:49 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Drill Thrawl
Have no fear Obama will save us.

???

THAT'S what I fear the most!!

18 posted on 11/26/2011 5:13:47 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Farmer Dean
What were they thinking? Why would anyone want to create a killer virus like this?

Think about it. There are those in power who believe the world's human population needs to be reduced significantly to achieve "sustainability."

I have lived my life in a world of bloodthirsty madmen: Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Che Guevara, Ceausescu and many more. All believed the evil lie that "the end justifies the means."

I do not doubt there are madmen today who would gladly unleash death upon billions if they thought it would help achieve their will-'o-the-wisp socialist Utopia.

19 posted on 11/26/2011 5:14:35 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: nkycincinnatikid

Do you mean the posted excerpt?


20 posted on 11/26/2011 5:15:11 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

21 posted on 11/26/2011 5:15:22 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Chode
and they did this because...???

Because they can?
Because otherwise the antidote isn't worth much?
Because a Hadron collider might be a little TOO effective?
Allahu akbar?

22 posted on 11/26/2011 5:17:21 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Farmer Dean
What were they thinking?Why would anyone want to create a killer virus like this?

"The fears are notable because the work was carried out on behalf of the National Institutes of Health in the US." -Tom

23 posted on 11/26/2011 5:19:16 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: momtothree
Kind of like this: The first 3 mniutes of the Stand.
24 posted on 11/26/2011 5:19:50 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Nice work, guys. What other neat ****ing tricks can you do?


25 posted on 11/26/2011 5:21:59 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: momtothree; RandallFlagg

Yep, this has zombie written all over it. Now, we must ask ourselves, who is it the Dutch hate the worst?


26 posted on 11/26/2011 5:22:28 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yep! Just like it (I really liked The Stand)


27 posted on 11/26/2011 5:24:06 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Gene Eric

Yeah, upon reflection, and certainly in this case, well, that too.


28 posted on 11/26/2011 5:24:18 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: TigerLikesRooster
If Dr. Fouchier et al. can do it, so can somebody else. It is the tool that is perilous, and the motives of those who wield them of critical distinction.

This kind of research may well be adjunct to developing the capability to produce effective antiviral technology. For all we know he may be more hero than monster. Time will tell.

29 posted on 11/26/2011 5:25:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This sounds like the plot for a B Grade sci-fi flick.


30 posted on 11/26/2011 5:26:03 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Bernard Marx

So you think this is possibly linked to the Agenda21 thing?!


31 posted on 11/26/2011 5:26:35 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Army Air Corps
This sounds like the plot for a B Grade sci-fi flick.

The Omega Man
32 posted on 11/26/2011 5:30:49 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why does the “world-UN” or others allow the development of such bio-WMDs that could kill off the world? Once these gremlins are let out of the box either through leaked intel or leaked research or physically, there is no turning back the clock. They can be released without accountability.

These are much worse and catastrophic than the nukes that we’re worried about with Iran and others. My concern is that there are perverse interests in the world that would like to see 50% or more of the world killed off, and it would not go beyond their beliefs to do it.


33 posted on 11/26/2011 5:31:41 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Lady Lucky
but, but, but i thought the eurotrtash was against bio-warfare???
34 posted on 11/26/2011 5:32:42 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: B.O. Plenty; TigerLikesRooster
Why would anyone want to create a killer virus like this?

To learn more about how viruses function.

As in how they mutate. How they attach to cells. How they high-jack the workings of cells to reproduce.

The more you know how viruses function the more you can do to prevent them from killing people and the more you can modify viruses do what you want them to do. Like cure cancer, cure genetic disease or modify food crops to make them disease resistant.

35 posted on 11/26/2011 5:35:08 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

My guess is that this is the tool that the Obamacare Death Panels will use to execute their decisions. Not content with just refusing life saving medicine, this tool will be used to execute their decisions immediately.


36 posted on 11/26/2011 5:35:59 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: nkycincinnatikid

People are in such a hurry.

They were checking to see if it could be weaponized and basically found that it could be. So now the point is to try to make sure that terrorists don’t figure out how to do it by getting ahold of the research description and data.

My bet is that if these scientists were able to do it, some Muslim biologist would also be able to figure out how to do it, as long as they had the facility and raw materials to do it with. That’s where it bites us in the butt that the entre Middle East is being taken over by Islamists. It provides lots of cover for somebody to do this kind of “research” for weaponization purposes.


37 posted on 11/26/2011 5:38:20 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: nkycincinnatikid

Because this source didn’t require excerpting and should have been posted in full?


38 posted on 11/26/2011 5:42:10 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: Kartographer

It’s Always Something. (IAS)


39 posted on 11/26/2011 5:44:44 PM PST by blam
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To: TigerLikesRooster
...meanwhile, in Iowa: CDC confirms cases of new swine flu virus
40 posted on 11/26/2011 5:47:03 PM PST by Daffynition ( **Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an effete could ignore it**)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The paper says American experts are worried detailed information could fall into the wrong hands and that terrorists could recreate the virus as a weapon. The fears are notable because the work was carried out on behalf of the National Institutes of Health in the US. The research team, led by Ron Fouchier, professor of virology at Erasmus teaching hospital, was able to create a highly infectious variant of the bird flu virus H5N1. H5N1 rarely transfers from animal to human, but if it does, the infection is often fatal.

Sounds like the government may finally have their pandemic.

41 posted on 11/26/2011 5:49:13 PM PST by JakeS (This would be a good time to read John chapter three 1-21)
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To: Farmer Dean; Chode
Like Dr. Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park, "Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could they didn't stop to think if they should."
42 posted on 11/26/2011 5:55:24 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: JakeS

Now Muslim micro-biologists become security threats by default. DHS would catalog every one of them. Would those in genetic engineering now need a mandatory security clearance to work?


43 posted on 11/26/2011 5:56:08 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Chode

The next time we hear about this virus in the news there will be a lab building janitor named Mohammed involved.


44 posted on 11/26/2011 5:56:50 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Dutch laboratory?

Perhaps they've cooked up the dreaded Matamoros Virus?

Bacon is the vaccine

45 posted on 11/26/2011 5:58:06 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
damn straight...
46 posted on 11/26/2011 5:58:12 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SpaceBar
i so hope you're wrong...
47 posted on 11/26/2011 5:59:04 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Farmer Dean; All

“Why would anyone want to create a killer virus like this? “

That’s how you study a virus. You make little changes in the structure and see what the morphology, or topography, has to do with infectiousness, transmissibility, and whether there can be a single influenza vaccine that would work for all variants.

btw the article says that Japanese researchers have discovered a similar variant, so it’s a good guess that it’s not a secret.

If you look on Ebay for DNA equipment, you’ll find that for $10,000 or so you can have a nifty home DNA lab. I was talking to a Johns Hopkins scientist at a biothreat conference, and apparently the government is quite concerned about amateurs, or people outright hostile, setting up a lab in some apartment somewere.

Look up The White Plague by Herbert, he wrote about a guy who made his own virus at home (and killed millions), and this was back in 1982!


48 posted on 11/26/2011 6:22:42 PM PST by DBrow
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To: momtothree

I was suggesting general possibilities. I don’t know that this specific bug was designed with Agenda 21 in mind. But I do know there are Agenda 21-influenced environmental wingnuts crazy enough to unleash such wholesale death if they could figure out how to protect their own sorry butts.


49 posted on 11/26/2011 6:28:19 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: momtothree
Well then, better be prepared ...


50 posted on 11/26/2011 6:31:17 PM PST by CapnJack
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