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To: Slings and Arrows

“During this investigation, extremely little evidence, if any, was found to raise even a suspicion that Jose Guerena was involved in any possible drug trafficking ring,” the notice says.

Scileppi said the fact that Guerena had been fired at 71 times and hit 22 times was “grotesque,” and “almost a caricature of an overly excited group of poorly trained law enforcement agents.”

Kastigar sharply disputed that, calling the Pima County SWAT team one of the best of its kind in the nation. “We’re not a bunch of country bumpkins in southern Arizona with big bellies and cowboy hats,” he said.

The shooting was justified, he said, because Guerena pointed his AR-15 at the SWAT officers and said, “I’ve got something for you,” before they opened fire.

The five SWAT team members who shot Guerena believed that he had fired his weapon first, he said. Subsequent investigation revealed that the gun’s safety was on and hadn’t been fired.


They sound pretty incompetent to me — big bellies or not.


24 posted on 11/27/2011 5:06:07 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
Too me it's a credibility issue. The dead man has many who can speak for his character it seems including his former Marines he served under. The ones in the raid on the other hand? They have each other. His weapon was on safety. He was in his own home. The sheriffs office has yet to make enough of a case to justify the search too start with. Ample oppertunites to arrest or serve him at a safer venue were not taken. They chose intead to raid his home where they did not have visual on him. If they knew where he worked they darn well know what shift thus the morning raid.

It Stinks! They could have served him as he pulled into his driveway. We have way too many agencies running around in military type gear and tactics looking for any reason and chance to use it.

25 posted on 11/27/2011 5:20:03 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: smokingfrog
“We’re not a bunch of country bumpkins in southern Arizona with big bellies and cowboy hats,” he said."

That's for sure. A bumpkin sheriff with a big belly and cowboy hat would have probably handled this competently.

38 posted on 11/28/2011 8:28:55 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: smokingfrog
They sound pretty incompetent to me — big bellies or not.

Twenty seconds into the raid, they've got one suspect down in the living room and haven't cleared the ret of the house yet. There may or may not be more suspects in the house (maybe even in the next room), who may or may not be armed - and they're all standing there holding empty weapons.

41 posted on 11/28/2011 9:02:16 AM PST by tacticalogic
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