Skip to comments.ESPN Sat on Molestation Tape Since 2002
Posted on 11/28/2011 12:38:55 PM PST by Kaslin
RUSH: So this assistant basketball coach at Syracuse, this guy -- Fine is his name, Bernie Fine -- has been accused of sexually molesting boys and students for a whole bunch of years. It turns out that ESPN had a tape since 2002 with evidence. ESPN has sat on evidence for nine years because they say they couldn't corroborate it. On the tape the guy's wife cops to it, saying she witnessed it and a ball boy admits it. They say they couldn't corroborate it. I wonder if the coach's name had been Paterno if ESPN woulda sat on this for nine years. They're saying they couldn't corroborate it.
"Syracuse fired assistant coach Bernie Fine Sunday after a 2002 phone recording emerged in which Fine's wife told his accuser she was well aware that her husband had molested him. The tape had been in ESPN's possession since former team ball boy Bobby Davis legally recorded it nearly a decade ago, but the network said it didn't air it until Sunday, it said, because it didn't have corroboration. Two other men have also come forward to say Fine molested them since Davis first accused Fine. The accusations became public after Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was fired amid allegations he sexually abused young boys.
"Davis made the tape after a brief talk with police in 2002. His allegations, which he brought to ESPN and the Syracuse Post-Standard at the time, created a journalistic conundrum for both: They didn't know whether to report accusations that could be incredibly damaging to Fine, or to risk not exposing a child molester. Both news outlets opted not to report on the allegations, they said, because they couldn't find anyone to support Davis' account. Neither Davis nor ESPN passed on the tape to Syracuse University officials for an internal investigation of Fine in 2005. Syracuse chancellor Nancy Cantor noted in a statement Sunday that university officials did not have the tape at the time.
"'That is true. They did not have that tape in 2005,' ESPN's Mark Schwarz reported Sunday night. 'Bobby Davis did not know what to do with that tape. All he knew is that the Syracuse police had a cursory five-minute phone conversation with him in 2002. He then made the tape. He presented it to us. We didn't have a corroborating second alleged victim,'" and apparently no curiosity, either! Apparently no curiosity to find out anything further. But then the whole thing blew up when the coach's "wife told his accuser she was well aware that her husband had molested him." So the wife knew that this was all going on all this time!
As I say, I wonder if the coach's name were Paterno or if McNabb had been involved somehow, if ESPN woulda sat on the tape for nine years. It's really fascinating stuff. I mean, a lot of people are asking, "How do you sit on evidence like this for nine years and not have even any curiosity to find out if what you've got is a bombshell?" We're hearing all this holier-than-thou wringing of hands. "My God, the abuse of a child is going on, and nobody did anything about it! How could this coach possibly sit by?" This McQueary guy, the Penn State guy, "How could this McQueary guy let it go? How could he let it go on? How could he not stop it?" How could ESPN let it go on? How could they not take steps to stop it, corroborate it, or whatever? It's amazing.
RUSH: All right, this scandal now at Syracuse, the Bernie Fine scandal. For nine years a tape with evidence of sexual molestation of a young boy. Nine years. They said they couldn't corroborate it. For nine years they sat on it. Why not? Folks, there's this giant elephant in the room. It's the same thing happened at Penn State. Nobody wants to bring it up, nobody wants to talk about it, nobody's got the guts and the courage to talk about it, but it's there, and there's no question. You see how fast ESPN would have put out that tape if this Bernie Fine guy had said something questioning the media hype around Donovan McNabb. See how fast ESPN would have put that out if it was a young girl that was molested.
I can’t help but think of dozens of local stories in the last year involving child luring and things of that nature where the suspect is arrested forthwith, perp walked on the local news, and shuffled off into the legal system. No grand juries, no years long investigations, no need for further corroboration. One child, one accusation, instant handcuffs. Of course, when one isn’t a cog in a multi-billion dollar industry like big-time college sports, I guess you can’t expect the same standard of treatment.
I’d like to hear a logical explanatio from the guy as to why he gave the tape to ESPN instead of to the police.
I’d like to hear a logical explanation from the guy as to why he gave the tape to ESPN instead of to the police.
This has got to feel like karma for Rush.
ESPN management sucks, but I admit, I watch Mike & Mike in the morning. Mike & Mike wanted to be careful how they covered the Penn St. tragedy. Greenburg even warned parents to remove kids from the vicinity the first time they discussed it.
But, management had other ideas, soon it was all Penn St, all the time.
I wonder if the same people that have been calling for ending the football program at Penn State will now call for The Walt Disney Company to close down ESPN.
That is what I was thinking too
I just want to know when all the FReepers that were calling for Joe Pa’s head are going to demand the same from ESPN’s management.
Mike & Mike is about all I watch on ESPN any more, other than live football and college hoops. Their show seems to skirt the politicization of most other shows, and is an escape from the day-to-day. I don’t want to turn on sports and see Obama parading around.
So, ESPN is now the Supreme Court and the Attorney General? They had no corroborating evidence?? Who cares...give it to the cops, you nitwits...and Rush is right: if it were little girls being abused they would have done more.
“ESPN had a tape since 2002 with evidence”
A netword covering up rape/child abuse?
If there had been a program about Tim Tebow and his Christian views, etc., ESPN would have had it on within minutes, bashing him, don’t you think?
Thats simple!!! Instead of seeing Bernie Fine prosecuted, Davis wanted money.
Rush has some experience with ESPN in this regard.
YUP, and the culture of corruption continues in the NCAA. Schools continually changing conferences for the next buck; you think they are going to hang the dirty laundry after such risky moves? Anti-trust with the BCS system and the NCAA watches. Open recruiting violations, yet only the small schools get caught.
this is a disney company is it not?
He talked to police before making the tape. Sounds like the police didn’t want anything to do with it either.
Like I said about the Sandusky thing. If you think stuff like this goes on for as long as it did without at least the hacks covering the team, if not hacks even further afield, at minimum hearing rumors about it, you’re kidding yourselves. It doesn’t let guys like Sandusky and Fine off the hook, it should put the hacks on the hook alongside them.
The elephant in the room rears its head again. The thing that Rush said can cost people their careers. The truth he confirmed he was referring to last week on his show.
The money line?
“See how fast ESPN would have put that out if it was a young girl that was molested.”
And there it is.
Yes, they are unfortunately. ESPN controls all aspects of the reporting of a sports story, they like to BE the story.
ESPN crucified Joe Paterno on the basis of a GJ report and hearsay...a bunch of sanctimonious fools.
Chickens coming home to roost, it seems....
The world of big sports, big bucks, media and sycophants is deplorable.
Actually if you put two and two together, the kid talked to police before making the tape - most likely because he wanted to expose the crime and get the guy fired at least. If the police wouldn’t listen, then maybe he could at least get justice by exposing the crime through ESPN.
From the posted article:
“”Davis made the tape after a brief talk with police in 2002. His allegations, which he brought to ESPN and the Syracuse Post-Standard at the time, created a journalistic conundrum for both: They didn’t know whether to report accusations that could be incredibly damaging to Fine, or to risk not exposing a child molester. Both news outlets opted not to report on the allegations, they said, because they couldn’t find anyone to support Davis’ account. Neither Davis nor ESPN passed on the tape to Syracuse University officials for an internal investigation of Fine in 2005. Syracuse chancellor Nancy Cantor noted in a statement Sunday that university officials did not have the tape at the time.
“’That is true. They did not have that tape in 2005,’ ESPN’s Mark Schwarz reported Sunday night. ‘Bobby Davis did not know what to do with that tape. All he knew is that the Syracuse police had a cursory five-minute phone conversation with him in 2002. He then made the tape. He presented it to us. We didn’t have a corroborating second alleged victim,’” and apparently no curiosity, either! Apparently no curiosity to find out anything further. But then the whole thing blew up when the coach’s “wife told his accuser she was well aware that her husband had molested him.” So the wife knew that this was all going on all this time!”
ESPN has some explaining to do. But once it knew, ESPN didn't give Fine ESPN's facilities as 'candy' to lure additional boys, nor let Fine orally and anally molest them on ESPN's premises, as far as we know. That can't be said of Penn State.
The ESPN Syracuse alumni chapter is very large.
ESPN covered up this abuse until they had no other option.
Can’t blame Cowherd since he is not a Syrexcuse grad.
“Mike & Mike is about all I watch on ESPN any more, ... “
Mike & Mike makes a conscious effort to do 50s and 60s style broadcasts. That is, they don’t skewer people, and they don’t play gotcha with guests. They try to be positive, focus on the sport itself as much as possible. They avoid bad language, and will very occasionally get a little naughty, but nothing I wouldn’t let a child watch.
I congratulate them, and watch every morning while I get ready.
And it's pink. Or is that lavender? The Gaystapo is ruthless, vindictive and completely in control of the press.
I’m wondering that myself. If I had the guy’s wife on tape saying that she knew about what had happened, I’d take a copy to the police and put the ball in their court (pun intended). Is it legal for one party to secretly record a conversation in New York? I know there are some states where that recording wouldn’t be admissible because they require both parties to consent recording a phone call.
As soon as I find out that ESPN's management gave Fine access to ESPN's facilities for thirteen years to lure boys for molestation, and let him orally molest and anally rape boys at ESPN, then we can talk about it.
Otherwise, we're comparing apples and lugnuts.
The article seems to say that he did go to police, and they would not do anything about it, so then he made the tape.
So Disney/ABC knew about this all this time? wow
Look at the curriculum NYC is pushing onto 11 year olds. disgusting. 11 years old is when Chastity Bono’s molestation started. That seems to be about the age that leftists are okay with it. sick freaks.
I saw a link somewhere, FB?, to Huffers Post saying Fine’s wife was also doing the kid. crazy.
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Good that Rush is talking about it. I hope he goes a lot deeper than just these two sport related homosexual molesting topics. It's endemic. It's what homosexuals do. It's their "identity". What's esepcially evil is how no one - cops, ESPN, and anyone else who knew or suspected - did anything whatsoever about it. Why do people cover up sex crimes against children by homosexuals???? Why is everyone so terrified of mentally ill sex perverts?
ESPN is full to the brim with queers, especially back office.
No doubt they covered for their fellow perverts.
Paterno did as he was supposed to, Boenheim and Syracuse ignored the kid. Boenheim still has his job and ESPN is still on the air. Fine had access to Syracuse facilities until yesterday, Sandusky's keys were taken away. Double standard much?
count me in!
This vulgar disgusting woman goes into great detail describing their depravity.
ESPN protected a child molester and his beastly wife.
Remind me never to let you or JoePa serve as an Assistant Scoutmaster in my Troop or Crew, or as a youth leader at my church. We have higher standards that what you and Joe apparently think you're supposed to have when you know a man has issues with little boys, but is continuing to 'work' with them. Frank Noonan, Pennsylvania's State Commissioner of Police also agrees that Paterno didn't do what he was supposed to do.
No!!! Mike Waters of the Syracuse Post-Standard reported today that his newspaper had the tape in 2002 when the police were doing their investigation. Davis gave the tape to the newspaper...but not the police.
Dennis and Callahan (WEEI, NESN) have been covering this and the Paterno story since they were made public.
So you are calling for the prosecution of ESPN management who had direct evidence? Funny, have you called for the firing of Boeheim or anyone at Syracuse?
By the way, what Joe "knew" he took to authorities. You have no idea what those folks did with what Joe heard from his asst. about a former coach. If Joe hadn't reported what he'd heard, he'd still have a job, like Boeheim does. The supposed "cover-up" including reporting hearsay. Craziest cover I've ever heard of.
They are numbing us to this now in preparation of sharia law and Islam.
watch the truth
Too complicated for you?
Paterno got what he deserved, stop crying for him.
No. I just want to see hundreds and hundreds of posts denouncing ESPN, even before all the facts are out.
Don't hold your breath. ESPN is part of the MSM and it can do no wrong.
No, it didn't. I assume you're not an attorney (and for that I commend you). "Hearsay" is a legal term that applies to evidence presented in court. Nothing said to Paterno was evidence presented in court.
Hearsay is a statement made out of court that is offered in court as evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted. Because the information from McQueary was not being offered as evidence in court, it wasn't hearsay.
There are so many exceptions to the hearsay rule that your evidence professor will joke that excluding evidence as hearsay is an exception to the hearsay exceptions. In this case, what Paterno heard was not hearsay because it wasn't offered as evidence in court, consisting of a statement by McQueary made out of court as proof that what McQueary said was true. Even in court, it could be offered for other purposes (although a judge may find that what McQueary said was so highly prejudicial to Sandusky that he or she would exclude it on that basis).
Incidentally, Pennsylvania is one of only a handful of states in which Paterno, as a faculty member of a university, wasn't required by law to report a reasonable allegation of suspected child abuse. Pennsylvania's a little backwards in that respect. Apparently the Nittany Valley is even a little backwards for what Pennsylvanians who aren't fervent Penn State supporters think.
We've already been through this with Paterno apologists. If it was 'hearsay' when Paterno heard it, it was 'hearsay' when Curley and Schultz heard it. And 23 Pa. Cons. Stat. Section 2311 technically doesn't make Curley or Schultz responsible for reporting; the statute makes Spanier responsible. Curley and Schultz are only responsible because they didn't report up the ladder and failed to report it to the proper authorities.