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Waiting for midnight, hungry families on food stamps give Walmart 'enormous spike'
MSNBC ^ | 11/28/11 | Jessica Hooper

Posted on 11/28/2011 1:37:21 PM PST by Nachum

At the stroke of midnight, a growing number of Americans are lining up at Walmart not to cash in on a holiday sale, but because they’re hungry. The increasing number of Americans relying on food stamps to survive the sluggish economic recovery has changed the way the largest retailer in the United States does business. Carol Johnston, Walmart’s senior vice president of store development, said that store managers have seen an “enormous spike” in the number of consumers shopping at midnight on the first of the month. That’s typically when those receiving federal food assistance have their accounts refilled each

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1 posted on 11/28/2011 1:37:28 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

“That’s typically when those receiving federal food assistance have their accounts refilled”

and happens to be when I get paid.


2 posted on 11/28/2011 1:42:30 PM PST by CJ Wolf (OMG - Obama Must Go!)
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To: Nachum

I’m sure the story is meant to raise concern for those on food stamps ... but it tells another tale as well.

Too many people are too da... too stupid to buy groceries and budget it out so that they have enough for a month (or more) and don’t have to rush to friggin Wal Mart at midnight because they are too inept to plan.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 1:43:39 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Nachum

I saw a nearly-identical story about a year-and-a-half ago (August, 2010).

Has anything changed, or did someone decide it was time to tug at heartstrings again?


4 posted on 11/28/2011 1:44:32 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Nachum
" . . . not to cash in on a holiday sale, but because they’re hungry".

by next week, americans will be starving in the streets, shivering on the sidewalks, and dying in emergency room parking lots because the mean, racist, millionaire loving, middle class eating republicans won't pass whatever reform nancy pelosi says is needed in order to save the planet.

5 posted on 11/28/2011 1:47:52 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Nachum

This is the fourth time in the past few years the MS has run the same “Out of food, shopping at midnight story”

Don’t believe me, do a search right here at FR. I know I posted on all the previous threads

Kinda like Hollywood, the news media has NO new ideas for stories


6 posted on 11/28/2011 1:49:54 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Winstons Julia
Too many people are too da... too stupid to buy groceries and budget it out so that they have enough for a month (or more) and don’t have to rush to friggin Wal Mart at midnight because they are too inept to plan.

Actually, when Wal Marts offers X Boxes half off plus a fifty dollar credit on top, that deal gets a lot of people into the stores. Who wants to over pay for a gift especially when you save over $200 bucks on one single item?

7 posted on 11/28/2011 1:51:24 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Nachum

While I hesitate to be judgmental about these matters, there are single, widowed, and divorced parents with children who do not have two incomes and a young adult male in the household, like the couple described at the link. These people have it good, as they say.
The other couple in the article even have a dog!


8 posted on 11/28/2011 1:52:58 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Winstons Julia
668.00 for a family of four is more than I have ever had to spend on food. My son has a family of 7 plus 2 in laws and numerous college kids that hang out at their house. They spend around 500 per month.

Stand behind one of these recipients in the grocery line and you will know why they can't manage to last the month out.

9 posted on 11/28/2011 1:53:39 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: KosmicKitty

By the way...who watches the kids while they shop at midnight?


10 posted on 11/28/2011 1:54:40 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Nachum

We don’t need welfare. Corporate America already has coupons for groceries stores and for people who aren’t lazy, you can get 70-80% off your food bill if you use them. Sometimes, with store offers, you can get an entire shopping cart full of food for free.


11 posted on 11/28/2011 1:56:04 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Nachum

This is horrific. I don’t think this is the sort of “spike” that the economy needs or wants. It’s like the “dead cat bounce” when after a stock tanks, losing nearly all its value, the stock will usually open up incrementally higher the next day. It’s not like there’s any interest in it, the “spike” is merely technical by nature, as if when you drop a dead cat from atop a 20-story building, you’re gonna get some movement out of it.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 1:57:00 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:The bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: Winstons Julia
Thirty-seven years ago I was widowed with a one year old son. I was on a fixed monthly survivor benefit income.(roughly $350.00 a month)

The first part of the month I bought enough food for that month. Meat was put in a freezer. Canned goods, peanut butter and other items were stored in the pantry.

My young son hated the crust of bread. When I made him peanut butter sandwiches without the crust for lunch I ate the crust for my lunch.

Somehow with no life insurance , after my first husband's death, I was able to save enough to buy my first home in 1975.

I worked part time, too.

I come from a long line of relatives who believe "where there is a will ....there is a way."

13 posted on 11/28/2011 1:59:31 PM PST by lysie
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To: Nachum

Ping


14 posted on 11/28/2011 2:01:34 PM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: Lady Lucky

The kids are usually with them............


15 posted on 11/28/2011 2:03:50 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Winstons Julia
Some of these people have kids who are given two meals a day at school!

I bet 2/3 of these people are over-weight! They buy a lot of junk food. (and beer with their own $$$)

16 posted on 11/28/2011 2:10:29 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

My daughter and her 2 kids just moved out. That made 5 in the house for 3 mnths. I bought all the groceries and was spending about $450 a month. Of course that was nothing but food, no extras, and we cook. I bet she spent $300 on sodas and snacks though, so that is where the extra costs come in.


17 posted on 11/28/2011 2:11:00 PM PST by sheana
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To: Nachum

Food stamps, or EBT cards?


18 posted on 11/28/2011 2:16:07 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Fido969
Food stamps, or EBT cards?

Does anyone get the paper food stamps anymore? I though every state had switched to a card by now.

19 posted on 11/28/2011 2:26:01 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: Nachum

As do companies like Drake’s, Hostess, and Frito-Lay.


20 posted on 11/28/2011 2:29:12 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Nachum

As do companies like Drake’s, Hostess, and Frito-Lay.


21 posted on 11/28/2011 2:29:12 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Nachum

As do companies like Drake’s, Hostess, and Frito-Lay.


22 posted on 11/28/2011 2:30:13 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Nachum

My guess is that they’re buying up the saleable commodities that they can get cash for. Then taking the cash for drugs. At least the ones that show up at midnight on the last day of the month. Most of the ones I see using EBT cards at Wally World are so damned fat, they couldn’t be starving. Only the druggies come out at night.


23 posted on 11/28/2011 2:32:44 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Nachum
NBC News went shopping with them at the local Walmart when $691 was deposited in their account at midnight on the first of the month.

Two people and a child should be able to eat quite nicely on $170.00 a week if they stick to staples and real food

24 posted on 11/28/2011 2:33:29 PM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: Coldwater Creek
I know of a couple that were getting $400 a month in food stamps. They bought whatever they wanted. Husband would call the wife "I want catfish tonight". Wife would say "But I'm ALREADY making this..." Hubby would say "I don't care, I want catfish". Then he'd stop at the store and pay the market price for catfish.

WHILE ON FOODSTAMPS!!!

I make what most would consider a good income, and I shop sales ALL the time. I spend about $225-$250 a month for 2 people. And I feel I eat pretty darn good.

Bacon or sausage and eggs for breakfast, maybe pancakes or homemade waffles w/ real maple syrup. A fair amount of beef and pork roasts (which I love). A handful of skillet dishes with ground beef. Minute steaks or round steaks.

I bought 1/2 a cow in the spring for $4 a lb.
$4 is expensive hamburger or chuck roast, but its real cheap porterhouse and sirloin.

I buy maple syrup by the gallon up in Wisconsin. $38 for a gallon vs $17 for a quart in the store. Tastes better too.

I've got lazy, worthless relatives who play the welfare system. They get food stamps AND rotate through the area food banks each month.

I shop by whats on sale and cook what I have on hand. (Most of the time I can eat what I want, because I already have on hand what I need. All bought on sale)

First I work to make the money. Then I work again, shopping the sales, to get the most of MY MONEY.

Of course, I guess you could say that "working" the handout system is work also.

25 posted on 11/28/2011 2:35:08 PM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Nachum

well, now I know when to not go shopping at WalMart.

Sounds like some hellish mix of an OWS encampment, an illegal alien border crossing and the line outside the local welfare office, all rolled into on.


26 posted on 11/28/2011 2:38:38 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KarlInOhio

I read a story few weeks ago about the rationing of stamps back during depression, WW2. It was required to keep all the stamps in the book, could not be torn out before hand. Then you had to present your ID along with the stamps at the cashier. That is how they prevented fraud.

Now they have EBT cards that my gosh, even work in Casino’s.


27 posted on 11/28/2011 2:42:48 PM PST by Engedi (Hec)
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To: Lady Lucky
While I hesitate to be judgmental about these matters, there are single, widowed, and divorced parents with children who do not have two incomes and a young adult male in the household

There are state programs where the kids can get breakfast and lunch at school for free.

There are 30 days in a month x 3 meals a day= 90 meals per person, per month.

5 days a week in school x 4 weeks a month= 20 days a month x 2 meals= 40 meals per person, per month, free from school

28 posted on 11/28/2011 2:45:36 PM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Engedi
Now they have EBT cards that my gosh, even work in Casino’s.

At the buffet?

29 posted on 11/28/2011 2:47:44 PM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Excellent question. An appalling number have the kids with them, usually inadequately dressed for the weather. Some are undoubtedly home alone.


30 posted on 11/28/2011 2:55:45 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: mountn man

Saw this story this a.m. The hungry couple was using a smart phone to check when their card was funded for the month. Wonder how much the cell service monthly charge cost and how much food it would buy?


31 posted on 11/28/2011 3:07:18 PM PST by xcong_1
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To: Nachum

I have a friend that has a full time job, but still can’t always feed his family after bills, so he gets food stamps for his wife and 2 kids. They get $467 a month, paid to their EBT card on the 15th. They budget as best they can, but food is getting more and more expensive. I lend him money when I can so his kids can eat.


32 posted on 11/28/2011 3:20:35 PM PST by christx30
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To: Nachum

And they come in at midnight huh?

More likely that the folks who bought them at 25cents on the dollar are ensuring that they get everything off the card before it gets turned off, or while they can still find and beat down the seller.


33 posted on 11/28/2011 3:27:07 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Nachum

Heard today the DNC are not going for the white voters who work but the elitists, artists, media, hollywood and the impoverished ethnic groups blacks and hispanics who are on public assitance, welfare, foodstamps and extended unemployment. SO EVERYTIME YOU HEAR THE LIAR AND CHIEF TALK ABOUT HELPING THE MIDDLECLASS............


34 posted on 11/28/2011 3:33:50 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: lysie
My young son hated the crust of bread.
I appreciate what you accomplished, and I don't mean to be critical, but your son must not have been very hungry.
Back in the early 60s we were six kids w/o a father and we got so hungry we'd eat the bread, the crust and the wrapper.
If you didn't like what was on the table, you went without.
35 posted on 11/28/2011 3:34:06 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mountn man
Children in my town, Memphis, Tn. will be receiving 3 meals a day while at school.
36 posted on 11/28/2011 3:41:02 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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Ok, so why doesn’t the guy find a job flipping burgers down on the corner rather than and hour and a half away? There are closer jobs he could find. And why isn’t the gal working? Obviously they have some sort of child care since they don’t have the kid with them at midnight. Why does it take both of them to shop when one could be home with the baby and save having to pay a sitter? That’s money down the drain. If there is a sitter, then the woman can get a job.

And feeding a dog? No, if you can’t feed your kid, you don’t need the dog. Sorry, but I’m not believing this. Someone is lying or is just too lazy to take responsiblity for themselves.

Besides, if you have to make the budget last the whole month, then you don’t shop at midnight on the first. You search the grocery circular every week to get the sales. Then you schedule your trips to hit the soon to expire markdowns. What are they doing buying bacon? Bacon is expen$ive. Granted, tortillas aren’t expensive but they can be made at home for nearly nothing and are way better than store bought. If this is the mentality that they’re using for other parts of their lives it’s no wonder they’re in this shape.


37 posted on 11/28/2011 3:43:28 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: oh8eleven

“... I don’t mean to be critical, but your son must not have been very hungry”.

I think you missed her point, oh8eleven. She didn’t want her son to feel like he was poor or in need. She selflessly ate the crust of the bread for her lunch so that her son could eat the sandwich they way he preferred. I had a great Aunt who was extremely poor. She would tell her family that she didn’t like the taste of meat but did like the fat. What she was doing was leaving the good protein for the children while eating the fat for herself. It’s what a good Mom does.


38 posted on 11/28/2011 3:47:18 PM PST by momtothree
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To: christx30
They budget as best they can, but food is getting more and more expensive. I lend him money when I can so his kids can eat.

God bless you for that. Yes, there is a real food crisis. We know see it were we are too.

39 posted on 11/28/2011 3:48:23 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: christx30

Yes, grocery prices are going up but there’s no way he’s budgeting the best he can. Don’t enable them by giving him money. Teach him to budget correctly.


40 posted on 11/28/2011 3:51:04 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: oh8eleven
If you didn't like what was on the table, you went without.

To this day I hate powdered milk. Can't even stand the smell of it. I couldn't wait to get to the farm for real cow milk.

41 posted on 11/28/2011 3:54:39 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Nachum

This story repeats practically every month. I saw it a few times this past year.


42 posted on 11/28/2011 3:57:10 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = Zipper Problem; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Nachum

Build all the FEMA camps around all the Chinamarts.


43 posted on 11/28/2011 4:01:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mountn man

Pisses me off to be standing at the seafood counter to buy whatever is on sale when a pack of EBT card holders come in and get $30 worth of crab legs each. (I see them “pay” at the register).


44 posted on 11/28/2011 4:01:56 PM PST by Rebelbase (Yes we Cain!)
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To: lysie

You are obviously a very strong, independent, and intelligent Mom, Lysie. I can only imagine your now grown son is in awe of what you have accomplished.


45 posted on 11/28/2011 4:06:38 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Winstons Julia

These folks could be eating very well ALL month IF they used coupons. My food budget is miniscule because of coupons. Okay, I have a new eating system where I am losing weight by going to the buffets but I also use coupons at the buffets as well. For just a little eight bucks and a coupon, one can fill up at Golden Corral.


46 posted on 11/28/2011 4:13:41 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Free Depends for OWS Protesters)
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To: xcong_1

They bought a brand name prepackaged string cheese instead of cutting up a cheaper hunk of cheese.

They bought individual containers of yogurt instead of either a large carton or making it at home. It takes all of one brain cell to make and no special ingredients, not even special starter.

That jar of Vlasic pickles is pricey. I haven’t bought Vlasic in years.

Blue Chee$e? Really?

They could have saved more money getting the Great Value noodles in the bag rather than the boxed name brand.

There’s a $touffer’s box of something in their nice looking kitchen. Also in their kitchen are nice salt and pepper shakers, a new something appliance and maybe a microwave. Ok, so they have an old crockpot which is the exact model I’m using tonight for chili so I know it’s from about the 80s. So, maybe those s&p shakers and the white appliance were gifts but they aren’t hurting by a long shot and they’re clueless on budgeting.


47 posted on 11/28/2011 4:15:56 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: oh8eleven
Back in the early 60s we were six kids w/o a father and we got so hungry we'd eat the bread, the crust and the wrapper.

When I was a kid we ate wood and rocks for breakfast.

(OK, that was an out-and-out lie. My father was a successful businessman, and I ditched school for lunch so I could have Filet Mignon)

48 posted on 11/28/2011 4:24:19 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = Zipper Problem; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: PJ-Comix

I need to learn to be more coupon conscious myself.


49 posted on 11/28/2011 4:42:56 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: xcong_1
My cousin, who has never had a real job in her life, gets welfare and food stamps. Buys her 23 yr old daugters cigarettes and cell phone minutes for her. Same daughter, 2 months ago was bragging on Facebook about her new Blackberry. Pay as you go cell phone minutes, with a blackberry. My cousin was also showing me her new phone over the weekend. (better than my phone)

Their house burned 2 years ago. Before her husband went to jail, he worked in a factory making 12 something an hour. Stopped by over the weekend, noticed they have satellite tv, a 47ish" flat screen tv, 2 pc's (one with touchscreen capabilities) and 2 lap tops, plus hs internet.

While hubby's in jail, he needs blood pressure medication. Before he went in, it cost them $30 a month. Now they have to buy it through the jail at $100. She was whinning about the cost and how she couldn't afford it. I was going to help out and buy it, until one of the daughters was on Facebook bragging about the matching tatoos her and her sister got.

Family doesn't have money for dads meds, but there's money for tats.

By the way, I'm the one they call "the rich cousin". I make WELL OVER $12 an hour, and usually work 50-60 hours a week. My cousin is unemployed getting $100 a week from the state and complains about having to go to job training. She has every excuse why she can't make it to work or training, but has no reasons why she has to work.

My cell phone is the most basic phone I can get. I finally got my second computer, after my first one bit the dust after 10 years (and it was a business machine that came off lease). Still haven't bought a flat screen tv, though I've been looking at 32" (it'll fit in the entertainment center).

50 posted on 11/28/2011 4:58:00 PM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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