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Serbs Attack Anew in Kosovo (NATO Soldiers Shot)
Wall Street Journal ^ | NOVEMBER 29, 2011. | DON FAIRCLOUGH

Posted on 11/28/2011 5:02:13 PM PST by Pan_Yan

Edited on 11/28/2011 6:31:04 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Serbs opposed to the independence of Kosovo attacked North Atlantic Treaty Organization peacekeeping troops in the tiny Balkan state Monday with guns and Molotov cocktails, wounding dozens, the alliance said, in an escalation of violence that could set back Belgrade's long-running effort to join the European Union.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kosovo; lostcause; morass; nato; quicksand; serbia
Someone correct me if I'm wrong; my knowledge in this area is a little weak.

Kosovo was infiltrated and then invaded by Muslims, who then started a guerilla war against Serbia. When the Serbs started to fight back we bombed them into submission. Now NATO troops are enforcing the Muslim domination of predominately Christian areas of a mythical country that we helped create.

Am I following the story so far?

1 posted on 11/28/2011 5:02:16 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Yep. Add that the invading Albanians were also criminals, the main source of drugs from the Golden Triangle into Europe. After the Kosovo handover, drug smuggling into Europe doubled.

They also smuggle in human body parts for transplant operations.

And what NATO was trying to do when the Serbs interrupted them was to remove a roadblock making it more difficult for Albanian thugs to go into the remaining Serb enclaves and blow them up.


2 posted on 11/28/2011 5:05:43 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pan_Yan

Yup, that pretty much sums it up, except it skims over the ugly parts of murder, rape, torture and kidnappings of Serbian civilians for the last 25 years.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 5:06:45 PM PST by farlander (Fiat Justitia, Ruat Caelum. Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: Pan_Yan
Your understanding is my understanding... we (NATO) are dying for those that would kill us and we are at war with a Christian nation... fighting for islam.

LLS

4 posted on 11/28/2011 5:07:27 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Pan_Yan
Pretty much got the gist of it. Muzzies faked a big slaughter that turned out to be bogus, but the clintonoids and the eurotrash bought into it as an excuse to betray the Serb Christians.

Mass media sucked right along with it, needless to mention.

5 posted on 11/28/2011 5:11:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Pan_Yan
The infiltration of Kosovo began as official Nazi policy.

See, the Grand Mufti & that paper hanging sonufabitch were good pals.

6 posted on 11/28/2011 5:13:05 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Pan_Yan

From what I understand this is North Kosovo and is mostly Serb. The Albanians control the rest of Kosovo and with NATO’s help are trying to drive out the Serbs.


7 posted on 11/28/2011 5:49:15 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Pan_Yan
Your version of events comes straight from the late Slobodan Milosevic's propaganda organs.

If that's what floats your boat, have fun with it.

The main point here is that the Serbs are attempting to restage the 1990 Log Revolution, albeit this time without the Aces which they held in their hand the last time around.

Needless to say, they lost that hand, they'll lose this hand.

8 posted on 11/28/2011 6:30:40 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Your version of events comes straight from the late Slobodan Milosevic's propaganda organs.

I've already admitted that this is not my strong area of understanding. Are you interested in enlightening us?

9 posted on 11/28/2011 6:41:16 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
How much enlightenment would you expect to get over the internet, vs. reading a book on the subject?

Tim Judah's "Kosovo: War and Revenge" is a good primer, if you're really interested.

If you're not, Kosovo's history is like the "Itchy and Scratchy" show, except with real blood, where the role of victim changes back and forth with the passing of the years.

10 posted on 11/28/2011 7:38:42 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Pan_Yan

http://tenc.net/yugo.htm

might help if you have the stomach for it.


11 posted on 11/28/2011 9:36:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I think 0bama is sending a number of US Army troops to a country in Africa to supress a Christian movement that is fighting a Muslim group.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 10:28:36 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

The Lord’s Resistance Army is NOT Christian. They’re a bunch of murderers and rapists which include pagans. That was already refuted.


13 posted on 11/28/2011 11:35:49 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Osama/Obama the only difference is BS.)
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To: unkus

Ivory Coast (new muzzie name “cote divoire”) I believe... obama is a jihad jackass.

LLS


14 posted on 11/29/2011 4:10:39 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Hoplite

Prior to the conflict in former Yugoslavia, what was the percent of Muslims in Kosovo and what was the percent of Serbs in Kosovo? Article here the other day stated Kosovo was only 10% Serbian, nowadays.


15 posted on 11/29/2011 4:54:47 AM PST by donozark (Sam Walton:"It was paper when we started, and it's paper afterwards.")
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To: Pan_Yan

Spot on so far, we hit the wrong side.


16 posted on 11/29/2011 5:21:31 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Hoplite
Needless to say, they lost that hand, they'll lose this hand.

NATO's resources were stretched to exhaustion by Libya. The EU is close to bankruptcy. The US is losing interest in foreign wars. Perhaps the Serbs figure that they can convince NATO to leave?

17 posted on 11/29/2011 6:11:57 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Pan_Yan

My take on this is that it’s a 3-sided cluster with no good guys in sight, not the three principals (Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks), not any of the outside players (us, the EU, the Russians, the Chinese).

There were plenty of atrocities in every direction among the 3 principals.

The flame wars over the Balkans in the late 90s and early 2000s when I started lurking/posting on FR were legendary.


18 posted on 11/29/2011 6:43:47 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yep. And in a fight with no good sides we jumped in to help those with whom we share no history, religion or values. I remember the fighting about it here as well.


19 posted on 11/29/2011 7:54:53 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: LibLieSlayer

0bama is Evil. Period.


20 posted on 11/29/2011 8:18:11 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

Evil incarnate.

LLS


21 posted on 11/29/2011 3:44:08 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: donozark
How far back prior?

The following table illustrating Kosovo's demography through the years is culled from Appendix A of "Kosovo: how myths and truths started a war", by Julie Mertus.

1838 data "Muslim" carried as Albanian.
1905 data "Albanized Muslim Serb" carried as Albanian.
Other minorities omitted for simplicity's sake.

YEAR Serb Muslim
1838 42% 58%
1905 33% 66%
1921 21% 66%
1931 27% 60%
1939 33% 54%
1948 24% 68%
1953 24% 65%
1961 24% 67%
1971 18% 74%
1981 13% 77%
1991 10% 82%

As to present conditions, it remains unknown, as the 2011 census in Kosovo was boycotted by the Serbs in the North, but 10% is probably ball park correct, if a little on the high side.

22 posted on 11/29/2011 5:44:38 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Thanks! Looks like percent of Serbs in Kosovo had declined long before the NATO involvement.


23 posted on 11/29/2011 5:55:51 PM PST by donozark (Sam Walton:"It was paper when we started, and it's paper afterwards.")
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To: PapaBear3625
Serbia's not going to be using a military option on anybody anytime soon, and if you're worried about NATO or the EU's condition, you might want to check up on how Belgrade's set for prospective confrontations: landlocked by nations hostile to any resurgent Serbian militarism, and without a military capable of turning any dreams of conquest into reality.

Everybody's best hope is to reunite under EU auspices as a part of NATO. If the Germans and the French (or the Germans and the Poles, for that matter) can get along, then the Serbs and their neighbors should be able to as well.

24 posted on 11/29/2011 5:56:43 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: LibLieSlayer

Cote D’Ivoire is over 3,000 miles from Uganda/Kenya/South Sudan area where the troops are actually headed.

The name Cote D’Ivoire is not a Muzzie name it is simply “Ivory Coast” in French.


25 posted on 11/29/2011 6:10:34 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Pan_Yan.
26 posted on 11/29/2011 7:21:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Hoplite
Tim Judah's "Kosovo: War and Revenge" is a good primer, if you're really interested.

Really?....You might also want to look at Judah's book: The Serbs: History, Myth & the Destruction of Yugoslavia.

In short, I don't think either Judah's or my (overall) point of view would be consistent with yours, Hoplite.

27 posted on 11/29/2011 9:08:34 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Straight Vermonter

It is the new in vogue name the media uses. obama did send troops there... less than 10 but they are there and 5.5 billion dollars too. Ruthless murdering regime.

LLS


28 posted on 11/30/2011 4:22:24 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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