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Newest Cain Accuser Has History of Financial Trouble
ABC NEWS ^ | 11-28-11 | Ross

Posted on 11/28/2011 7:24:46 PM PST by VinL

Like one of his earlier accusers, the latest woman to accuse Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain of sexual misconduct has a history of financial trouble, with a threat of eviction for non-payment of rent just two weeks ago.

Ginger White, who claimed in an interview with Atlanta Fox News affiliate WAGA to have had a 13-year-affair with Cain, has liens and civil judgments in Kentucky and Georgia dating back to 1994.

Eleven of those liens have been filed since 2009, with nine in 2011. The owners of her apartment complex in Dunwoody, Georgia have sued her for non-payment of rent nearly every month since the beginning of the year.

White, a 46-year-old unemployed single mother who is at least twice divorced, was described by WAGA as an Atlanta-area businesswoman. While living in Louisville, Kentucky, she worked at Recruitment Plus, LLC. According to WAGA, she filed a sex harassment claim against an employer ten years ago, and the case was settled. The station also found a bankruptcy filing from the late 1980s.

In January, there is a scheduled court date in an unrelated civil suit filed against her by a former business partner, Kimberly Vay, who alleges that White stalked and harassed her and had sought a protective order. A judge has entered a default judgment in Vay's favor. [snip]

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The fact that she's having financial difficulties doesn't make her a liar. However, I watched Mr. Cain with Blizzer, and Mr. Cain said specifically and affirmatively that there was no sex, and no affair. The question then is why are some conservatives on the board, assuming the truth of the allegations?

He has the right to the presumption of innocence, no?

1 posted on 11/28/2011 7:24:49 PM PST by VinL
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To: VinL
While living in Louisville, Kentucky, she worked at Recruitment Plus, LLC. According to WAGA, she filed a sex harassment claim against an employer ten years ago, and the case was settled. The station also found a bankruptcy filing from the late 1980s.

Well surprise, surprise!
2 posted on 11/28/2011 7:27:08 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: VinL

That’s a heap of financial trouble. Interesting that ABC is reporting it all.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 7:29:45 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: VinL

That Soros Cash sure goes a long way.


4 posted on 11/28/2011 7:30:47 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: VinL

I think he is innocent. However, we are dealing with an electability issue. I don’t think he’s electable.

Unfortunately, we’ve been given the short stick. If we end up with Romney, it will be a choice between a GOP liberal and a Dem liberal. How do you handle that?


5 posted on 11/28/2011 7:32:45 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: VinL

“But Cain’s campaign is standing firm by the idea that this is manufactured - his Iowa chairman, Steve Grubbs, tweeted out that White is a “shocking, defaming libeler.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69269.html


6 posted on 11/28/2011 7:33:30 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

Why would she have access to Cain’s cell number and why did they maintain such a long friendship IF she was or is such a low life? Cain needs to surround himself with better people both privately and publicly. IF some conversations or other evidence is shown in regards to the alleged affair..Cain is toast and finished in politics forever.


7 posted on 11/28/2011 7:34:27 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: VinL; Longbow1969

The question then is why are some conservatives on the board, assuming the truth of the allegations?
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Because they’re not Conservatives.

Some even go so far as to claim evidence that isn’t out there (Yep I’m talking about you Longbow1969)


8 posted on 11/28/2011 7:35:04 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: Brilliant

I respect your view- but I honestly think, given this election cycle, he’s the most electable. He just needs Newt as backup.


9 posted on 11/28/2011 7:36:02 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

So when the mainstream media decides which false accusers get to be in the news, don’t they first send out a team of professionals to look into it?

You’d think they would, just to eliminate the ones with a long history of bankruptcies, making accusations, and trying to cash in on settlements.


10 posted on 11/28/2011 7:38:27 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. (See W.L. Craig, and many others.))
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To: VinL

High-risk strategy for the Dems to try and destroy Herman this early. In Cain survives all this and ends up on top, he will be unbeatable.


11 posted on 11/28/2011 7:38:42 PM PST by montag813
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To: katiedidit1

Katie, I read your posts often on Cain threads- and I respect the fact that he’s not your choice. That’s fine. But respectfully, you’re engaging in conjecture. She said there was sex..he says no. Ok. Now, let’s wait for the evidence.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 7:40:10 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: katiedidit1

His campaign has done great damage to the GOP brand and has distracted this whole election process away from Obama and Romney. Very sad.


13 posted on 11/28/2011 7:43:00 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: montag813

You’re so right. (Uh, you think maybe the Cain folks were engaging in counter-tactics here— maybe she’s a setup.) -:)


14 posted on 11/28/2011 7:43:39 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

All I saw that she had for evidence was text messages and Cains phone number. Her background is pretty shaky as well as has been reported in the other posts. At this point I have to believe Herman.


15 posted on 11/28/2011 7:45:19 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: VinL

I did not see where he said such a thing. He said no, there was no affair just friendship. That is a far cry from denying physical relationship. It may simply be him playing the word “affair”.


16 posted on 11/28/2011 7:45:55 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: JohnKinAK
Some even go so far as to claim evidence that isn’t out there (Yep I’m talking about you Longbow1969)

Oh yeah? Like what?

The financial support part? Here is Cain explaining why this woman had his phone number:

We texted the number and Herman Cain called us back. He told us he "knew Ginger White" but said these are "more false allegations." He said she had his number because he was "trying to help her financially.”

On CNN Cain admitted he was friends with the woman for about the time frame she said - which was 13 years.

On CNN Cain said his wife never met her.

So what claims did I make that weren't true. ALL of these claims are all over the media. I've seen them in news reports and on CNN just tonight. Are you just not watching the news?

Because they’re not Conservatives.

Oh BS.

17 posted on 11/28/2011 7:47:55 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Brilliant

>We’ve been given the short stick<

And what ar we going to do about it? Suck our thumbs and nuzzlr in our blanies? No! We know it is a lie, and everyone else knows it is a lie, so we continue to support the best candidate going until the end! That is what we, as good Americans, will do!

Anyone interested in supporting a great man? Send your generous checks to:

Herman Cain, Inc.
Friends of Herman Cain, Inc.
P.O. Box 2158
Stockbridge,l Georgia 30281

Thank you. We are sticking with youl Mr. Cain!


18 posted on 11/28/2011 7:48:08 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: katiedidit1

Shame on you calling that woman low life! Has she broken any laws that you know of? How would you like it if I call you a low life even though you have not broken any laws? All we know is the woman is a financial basket case. Similar to that Bialek woman. That is not a low life, just a financial basket case. I see nothing wrong in having her as a friend.

My question is why did these women wait X number of years to pop up now? Bialek pops up when Cain’s poll numbers were high. Now he Cain was again starting to recover and this woman pops up.

I am from Chicago and I have known how Axelrod operates for 40 years. He and Bialek lived in the same building and frequented the same gym. Is Obama campaign that unnerved by another black man in the race? Are they deathly afraid if their 95% monopoly on black voters is in peril against Cain?


19 posted on 11/28/2011 7:49:25 PM PST by federal__reserve (GOP Baggage champs: Mitt, Newt. GOP flip flop champs: Mitt, Newt. We have a winner ding ding ding)
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To: indianrightwinger

I would say the GOP has probably been instrumental in damaging Mr. Cain’s campaign, rather than the other way around.


20 posted on 11/28/2011 7:51:26 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: indianrightwinger

Indiana, I watched the video- because the written reports were ambiguous. Wolf asked him specifically if there was sex- Cain say “no!”. Then, was there an affair? “No!” I’m certain of that, but the video is online—whatever Wolf’s show is “Late Edition?”

If you wish, I’ll find it for you. Also, the Cain Camp came out and said the following-—

“But Cain’s campaign is standing firm by the idea that this is manufactured - his Iowa chairman, Steve Grubbs, tweeted out that White is a “shocking, defaming libeler.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69269.html#ixzz1f3qwZ2CC


21 posted on 11/28/2011 7:53:21 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL
I like the mature objectivity of your tone, VL, after the torrent of opinion like a sandstorm blowing through these Cain threads. My eyes are burning.

It would be useful, when the next charge hits, that we have a thread, kept in the sidebar, and labeled, as in this instance: Cain/White Facts. And as it unfolded, each bit of information sans opinion would be listed, including not-yet-verified research, like the Chicago connection that someone said will be coming. This would enable periodically checking the facts. But I am not volunteering...
22 posted on 11/28/2011 7:55:47 PM PST by jobim (.)
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To: katiedidit1

This is milk toast compared to what trash will come up on Newt (Mr. I’m The Only One Capable of Being President) either before his coronation or before November 2012...


23 posted on 11/28/2011 7:56:08 PM PST by not2worry
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To: katiedidit1
Why would she have access to Cain’s cell number and why did they maintain such a long friendship IF she was or is such a low life?

How was Judas Iscariot one of the 12 Disciples?

24 posted on 11/28/2011 7:58:04 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: VinL

I was looking at one of the other threads, and I realized it’s basically just 2 or 3 guys making the vast majority of anti-Cain posts. And they just repeat themselves, over and over and over again.


25 posted on 11/28/2011 8:00:34 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: indianrightwinger
Oh spare me. I am sure Herman Cain's campaign did not plant these allegations!

Very sad indeed that Newt gets a pass on his actual adultery and sexual romps with interns over the years.

What goes around comes around - Newt is not out of the woods yet!

26 posted on 11/28/2011 8:00:51 PM PST by not2worry
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To: Longbow1969

Oh man, you’re basically speculating on things with zero evidence of any adultery. Yet you’ve basically convinced him. It’s totally irrational.


27 posted on 11/28/2011 8:02:54 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Longbow1969

Oh man, you’re basically speculating on things with zero evidence of any adultery. Yet you’ve basically convicted him. It’s totally irrational.


28 posted on 11/28/2011 8:03:10 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: not2worry

Should the Republicans play into the hands of the main stream media and Democrat Party by nominating Newt, watch for him to be completely be savaged and destroyed by the msm.


29 posted on 11/28/2011 8:05:29 PM PST by sport
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To: katiedidit1

’ Why would she have access to Cain’s cell number and why did they maintain such a long friendship IF she was or is such a low life? “

Why would Cain give her money ?
Without his wife’s knowledge ???
How much and when ?
And if Cain used campaign or PAC money ,
this could get even messier.
“ The GOP candidate said White had the number because he had provided financial assistance to her.”
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2011/11/28/fox-5-report-to-accuse-herman-cain-of-13-year-affair/

“Here we go again,” Cain said Monday to Blitzer.
“We will basically show, when the details become available,
that I didn’t do anything wrong.”
When the details become available ???
A married man who has a personal relationship
with a woman for 13 years
( unbeknownst to his wife and family ) and who gives her money
has already done something wrong.
Even if it was platonic .


30 posted on 11/28/2011 8:06:54 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: jobim

Thanks,Job—I’m just OLD (59)- but “mature” sounds so much better. (LOL)


31 posted on 11/28/2011 8:07:04 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: katiedidit1

That’s it in the nutshell! I said the same thing earlier to my husband.


32 posted on 11/28/2011 8:10:17 PM PST by marygam ((Hurry November 2012, we might not make it))
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

I am in big trouble now! I have given presents to many friends, mainly at work, both male and female. My wife and I have our own amount of discretionary spending money. I never question her spending and she never questions mine. Because we both know we never overspend.


33 posted on 11/28/2011 8:12:11 PM PST by federal__reserve (GOP Baggage champs: Mitt, Newt. GOP flip flop champs: Mitt, Newt. We have a winner ding ding ding)
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To: VinL

It is ironic that the infidelity for which Cain is being defamed would not have any effect if Obama were accused of the same charges. Zer0 would be seen as a sexy man with the extramarital affairs as part of the package. His image would go higher with the Democrats.

No, Cain’s infidelity is directed at the Cain supporters who do have concern about his moral behavior. They will have to decide to throw off their concerns as the sacrifice needed to bring about the defeat of Zer0 and win back the White House and, on his coat tails, the Senate.


34 posted on 11/28/2011 8:14:43 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Newt was screwing his staff assistant Calista for 6 years while legally married. Another black mark on GOP candidates?


35 posted on 11/28/2011 8:15:15 PM PST by federal__reserve (GOP Baggage champs: Mitt, Newt. GOP flip flop champs: Mitt, Newt. We have a winner ding ding ding)
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To: VinL

You’re just a precocious kid - I turned 60 last week!


36 posted on 11/28/2011 8:15:51 PM PST by jobim (.)
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To: katiedidit1; marygam

Cain has already said he has known this woman for many years as a friend. Is it ABnormal to have a friend’s number on your cell phone? Are you implying only numbers you can have on your cell phone must be of the same gender as you? I thought Victorian era was long over.


37 posted on 11/28/2011 8:19:43 PM PST by federal__reserve (GOP Baggage champs: Mitt, Newt. GOP flip flop champs: Mitt, Newt. We have a winner ding ding ding)
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To: federal__reserve

You really need to keep up with the blogs before you jump to conclusions. I was referring to others on this site calling the woman a low life. Asked them why Cain would give his personal cell number to her? befriend her for 13 yrs? as others are calling her everything but ho. Cain talks about surrounding himself politically with smart and savvy advisors...however, a man is known by the company he keeps and IF evidence is on her phone or comes out..Cain is done.


38 posted on 11/28/2011 8:19:43 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

I’m thinking she was a charity case who tried to latch on to him, and later decided she could cash in in a better way. If she’s really had an affair for 13 years, there ought to be some kind of evidence. Records of text messages or calls is meaningless. Give me the CONTENT of those messages, a juicy voicemail, a stained dress... Then we’ll talk. Until then, it’s up to the enemy to prove the crime, not for the other person to prove their innocence.


39 posted on 11/28/2011 8:21:55 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: federal__reserve

Let’s see what else comes out on this and I will answer your question. Why would he select such a friend? after all he is supposed to be a brilliant man? I am careful about who I give my cell number out to but on the other hand the Cain folks are saying this woman is a known lowlife with a proven history as such...which is it? he has friends in low places where the whiskey flows and the music chases the blues away....


40 posted on 11/28/2011 8:23:31 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: federal__reserve

Let’s see what else comes out on this and I will answer your question. Why would he select such a friend? after all he is supposed to be a brilliant man? I am careful about who I give my cell number out to but on the other hand the Cain folks are saying this woman is a known lowlife with a proven history as such...which is it? he has friends in low places where the whiskey flows and the music chases the blues away....


41 posted on 11/28/2011 8:23:34 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

If this woman indeed turns out to be a ho, I would agree with you that Cain does not surround himself with honorable people. Until we know more, it is highly premature, and presumptuous to skewer Cain about the “low life” company etc. More details will surely surface. Until then it is premature to proclaim “Cain is finished”.


42 posted on 11/28/2011 8:25:46 PM PST by federal__reserve (GOP Baggage champs: Mitt, Newt. GOP flip flop champs: Mitt, Newt. We have a winner ding ding ding)
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To: VinL

I certainly don’t assume he’s guilty of anything but poor campaign skills at this point.

That lawyer was supposed to show how Cain was great at managing problems by getting good people he could trust.

But if you are going to send out a lawyer to say that an alleged affair is nobody’s business, you don’t also have the candidate come out and claim the story is a lie.

Because even if you would accept that the media has no business asking whether a candidate had an affair or not, I can say with absolute certainty that a candidate accusing a woman of lying about an affair is absolutely something the press should and will investigate fully.

So if you wanted to get the press to back down, Cain had to stay silent. And since you have to assume the campaign coordinated the response, it means Cain thought it was a good idea to deny the affair and then have his lawyer tell the press it wasn’t any of their business. And that is the problem I see here.


43 posted on 11/28/2011 8:26:40 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: federal__reserve

Oh no, I would say after one or two...maybe but the numbers are going up and he is acting strange. The man is finished....the end.


44 posted on 11/28/2011 8:27:45 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: VinL

See, this is what I meant. You can’t say it’s nobody’s business, and then have your campaign tweeting attacks on the woman.

You have to choose your response.


45 posted on 11/28/2011 8:28:00 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jobim

And with wisdom beyond your years! -:)


46 posted on 11/28/2011 8:28:03 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL; All

Talk host Rusty Humpries interviewed the Fox reporter who broke the story through the local FOX affiliate. Being familiar with how things work, The reporter admitted “working” on the story for a week. By working the thrust of her statements was that she decided to “defend the other women who she claimed were being (paraphrased)villified and wanted to defend them. She claimed Cain dropped her when he decided to make his run.

Story concepts and direction usually come from the editor. Even though this came through FOX that doesn’t mean this gal was not worked on.

If Cain was a dema-com she’d be be dipped and cooked in effluent. As it is what the MSM is going to do is bring on GS/BS and play and replay the victim device. We can’t have some uppity conservative black running for office...


47 posted on 11/28/2011 8:29:20 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name II received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: Sans-Culotte

; ~ )


48 posted on 11/28/2011 8:30:50 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: VinL

It isn’t about truth or innocence. IT is about smear.

Besides, the democrats know well enough, tell a lie often enough and some idiot somewhere will believe it.

What was the phrase, there’s a sucker born every minute. I am not buying this affair crap.


49 posted on 11/28/2011 8:31:09 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: katiedidit1

I’m ashamed to see such cannibalistic conservatives such as yourself.

Somebody said something bad about one of our guys? OK, burn him at the stake.

Grow some balls, katie.


50 posted on 11/28/2011 8:32:21 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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