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Cooper Tire locks out 1,000+ workers (Findlay Ohio Steelworkers Idiots)
FoxToledo ^ | 11/29/2011 | FoxToledo

Posted on 11/29/2011 4:23:21 AM PST by TSgt

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To: TSgt

“They’re paying these workers a lot more than they’re paying their employees,” Nelson said. “It’s kind of sad.”

Of course they are paying temp worker more, even if they are paying minimum wage to temp workers, those workers are making more money than employee’s who are not working at all.


21 posted on 11/29/2011 5:04:29 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PGalt

Now that the union Bozos are locked out will that mean an increase in OWS protestors? The unionistas are fools.


22 posted on 11/29/2011 5:07:44 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Pontiac

My wife’s uncle retired from Cooper in Findlay. He made good money and has a nice retirement.


23 posted on 11/29/2011 5:07:44 AM PST by TSgt (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: Venturer
“The public today is not in a good mood to back Union BS.”

I wish I were as optimistic, but the “public” just demonstrated that they will roll over and fall for the union B.S. quite handily. It simply required the unions to spend a few billion dollars convincing people that if they don't allow union thugs to dictate the agenda that grandma will die and their numb-skull kids won't have enough teachers to babysit them.
The percentages weren't even close on that one.

24 posted on 11/29/2011 5:14:38 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: hal ogen
Now that the union Bozos are locked out will that mean an increase in OWS protestors? The unionistas are fools.

Of course. Occupy Cooper Tire would be a natural extension for the OWS gang. Workers (lemmings) of the world UNITE...and start a business. Would they unionize it?

25 posted on 11/29/2011 5:22:22 AM PST by PGalt
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To: TSgt

When the tire industry completely disappears from America, there will be FReepers who will insist that we must have tariffs on foreign tires to make American tire-making competitive. Episodes like this one will be forgotten and the “greedy” American consumer will be blamed instead.


26 posted on 11/29/2011 5:26:35 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: TSgt
Above average workers are hurt by unions.

Exactly!

27 posted on 11/29/2011 5:28:11 AM PST by econjack
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

ditto
Lost acquaintances over issue 2.


28 posted on 11/29/2011 5:30:09 AM PST by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: NonValueAdded

Once upon a time, I was the Plant Engineer at a rubber produts company. The Steelworker’s unionized the facility. Employment went from around 250 to about 85 within six months.

USW vs URW is sort of like WWE vs WWF.


29 posted on 11/29/2011 5:44:38 AM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: TSgt

These articles are useless unless they spell out the current salary and benefits scales and the proposed salary and benefits scales. They should also include a listing of any disputed working rules and regulations that chaffe at either management or labor.


30 posted on 11/29/2011 5:47:40 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: BfloGuy
Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution says:

Section. 8.The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Duties and imposts are "taxes" imposed on imported goods from foreign countries.

My position is that the Founders were intelligent people, and if there were no place whatsoever for duties and imposts that they would have not included them in the powers of Congress.

I favor duties and imposts on goods imported from foreign countries who have distorted the free market. If they use slave or slave equivalent labor, then they have distorted the market. If they use regulation or fees against our imports or refuse our imports, then they have distorted a free market. If they have the government subsidize the production of any good, then they have distorted the market.

To compensate for the distortion of a free market, I endorse duties and imposts.

In short, I agree with the U.S. Constitution. There is a time and place for these things.

31 posted on 11/29/2011 6:01:23 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: TSgt

American Labor Union sending more U.S. jobs to China.


32 posted on 11/29/2011 6:06:18 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Lessons In Disaster: LBJ, Carter,Clinton,Obama.)
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To: TSgt

“They’re paying these workers a lot more than they’re paying their employees,” Nelson said. “It’s kind of sad.”

Not when one considers the temporary workers are betting their lives that they won’t be harmed or worse by union thugs.


33 posted on 11/29/2011 6:14:29 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Oceander

—it becomes painfully obvious that the temporary workers - for whom Cooper Tire is not obligated to provide all sorts of expensive, uneconomic benefits - are substantially cheaper than the union parasites they’ve just evicted.—

This.

I’ve been in Information Technology since 1983. Twelve years of it as a contractor. I always made more contracting, but I was paid a strict hourly rate. And the full billing rate was the same or less than the employees cost “per hour”. In one case I made, in hourly wages, more than three times what the employees were making in raw hourly wages.


34 posted on 11/29/2011 6:19:13 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: NonValueAdded

The URW merged with the steel workers over a decade ago...


35 posted on 11/29/2011 6:20:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: econjack

My step-son started his own business competing with his former employer. The former employer is fully union while my step-son’s company is not. He is killing his competition, not because his employees work cheaper, but because with no union labor he can be more flexible.

His employees are paid a VERY good wage based on work completed rather than by the hour. Also, at the old union place, if they needed someone to work until 12:30, they would not do it because the union said lunch break was between 12 and 1. Even if the employer just wanted them to shift their lunch break one day by a half hour, no dice.

Sure, you can take advantage of non-union employees, but you can also get rich, and enhance your employees riches as well, when the whole organization works to better the company as a team. Unions are overtly anti-teaming, which is always a recipe for disaster in a company.


36 posted on 11/29/2011 6:23:25 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Venturer
If the company can bring in scab peopleFREE MARKET workers and teach them to make quality tires ...
37 posted on 11/29/2011 6:29:30 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: TSgt
Being the home of Marathon Oil head quarters has been the life blood of Findlay. That city has just grown as far back as I can remember.

There was a possibility that Marathon was moving out about a decade ago but it didn’t happen. If it had Findlay may have suffered greatly.

My home town only 15 miles away has shrunk by more than a third since I was in high school 30 years ago.

38 posted on 11/29/2011 6:34:51 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TSgt

Nine plus percent unemployment and the Union is dicking around with the company?! Now is not the time to have a socialist hissy fit, unless Great Leader and the Federal Department of We’re-Taking-Over-Everything has agreed to come to the Union’s rescue.


39 posted on 11/29/2011 6:38:12 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: noprogs
Years ago, I participated in a study of the North American tire industry when I worked for a refining company. One of the more surprising facts we found was OEM suppliers barely break even on the tires they supply to car makers. They depend on making a profit on the second set of tires since most motorists will replace their tires with the same brand.

This concept worked pretty well for decades until the advent of radial tires that last three or four times as long as the old design.

40 posted on 11/29/2011 6:38:12 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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