Skip to comments.Case of 200-pound 8-year-old in Ohio renews question: Should parents of obese lose custody?
Posted on 11/29/2011 5:49:42 AM PST by Libloather
Case of 200-pound 8-year-old in Ohio renews question: Should parents of obese lose custody?
Article by: THOMAS J. SHEERAN, Associated Press
Updated: November 29, 2011 - 7:16 AM
CLEVELAND - The case of an 8-year-old Cleveland Heights boy taken from his family because he weighs more than 200 pounds has renewed a debate on whether parents should lose custody if a child is severely obese.
The boy was removed from his family and was placed in foster care in October after county case workers said his mother wasn't doing enough to control his weight. The boy, at his weight, is considered at risk for developing such diseases as diabetes and high blood pressure. Government growth charts say most boys his age weigh about 60 pounds.
Roughly 2 million U.S. children are extremely obese weighing significantly more than what's considered healthy.
Cuyahoga County removed the boy because case workers considered the mother's inability to get his weight down a form of medical neglect. The county's Children and Family Services agency said Monday it stood by its custody move, which was approved by a judge.
"We have worked very hard with this family for 20 months before it got to this point," agency Administrator Patricia Rideout said.
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Should parents of anorexic children lose custody?
Should parents of depressed children lose custody?
Should parents of socially inept children lose custody?
200 pounds? What were they feeding him? Triple Baconators?
bur putting an 8 year old on sex change drugs is not a problem?
No photos of the big fat kid??? I am disappointed in this news story
Should parents of obese lose custody?
...........only if they are Browns fans. /s
Yes! The moment the kid is 3-4 oz overweight. (and parents should be forced to take a child to a government weigh station every week) If there is even the slightest scent of Twinkie on the childs breath, the parents will be jailed! ~ sarc (wouldn’t surprise me)
Sexual psychosis, in every manifestation, is a protected constitutional right. Being fat is unforgivably unfashionable.
I once knew a 10 year old boy that weighed 205 pounds. His mother was also severely obese which makes me wonder what the mother weighs in this story. If she is close to a normal weight, this may be something besides overeating. Either way, the government has no business taking this kid.
Believe this is an adopted child - so some Govt. adoption agency is complicit.
I hereby call for the firing of all obese social workers.
The kid probably needs more bacon and less pasta.
My gues is that the parents are very overweight as well. Nontheless, it ain’t the stinking govt’s business.
Boiling the frog, IMHO. First they come for the overweight kids... If this is allowed to stand, what is next? Parents who home school? (they deprive their children of socialization). Parents who take their kids to a conservative church? (the children are being brainwashed that abortion is murder and homosexuality is wrong). The list is endless if you think about it.
Should out-of-control governments lose legitimacy?
Generally speaking no, but we really need to know more about the case.
What is the cause of the weight gain?
A 200 pound 8 year old is unusual. It could indicate a medical condition beyond the parents control. Or it could indicate neglect.
I have an 8 year old son. I would never want him taken from me, ever. But I can’t for the life of me figure out how any 8 year old could get to 200 pounds. That has to pose a severe health risk.
Without the medical file on this boy, it is difficult to know if this rises to the level of danger to the child.
I’ll bet both mom and dad are severely obese. In the article, Mom says she’s doing everything to help him control his weight. I’m going to call B.S. on this one. My bet is these kids haven’t eaten a fruit or veggie in their life. Lots of Mickey D’s. I don’t know what the answer to this is because it’s a fairly new pheonomina. Truly 50 years ago you didn’t have 450 pound parents with 200 pound 10 year olds. The only thing heriditary is their diet.
College scouts are probably already looking his way.
Different state. Ohio for all it’s flaws is not California. And don’t get me started on the cult that is “transgenderism”.
Actually this started with the kids of smokers. But with that said, I’m in full agreement with you. This stuff has to end.
Agreed. Absolutely no.
Do a little thought experiment. If a child is very short, do the social workers blame the parents? Probably not, but when it comes to weight they assume that parents control the outcome. In a case this extreme, I sincerely doubt it.
re: My bet is these kids havent eaten a fruit or veggie in their life. Lots of Mickey Ds.
I am guessing that also.
...and the list goes on, where does it stop. If it didn’t start to begin with things would be a lot better. One can argue till the cows come home, but government has no mandate or right or power delegated or loaned from “the people” to take children from parents or for that matter a thousand other things they do because the people deem it necessary.
...and yes there is an obvious conflict on the one hand, the people desire the government to be ever concerned with everyone’s rights. In this case that of children, but at the expense of the parents. Government should not be allowed anything that an individual would not also be allowed. I cannot as an individual go in to someones home, and remove their children, thus I “the people” cannot grant such power to government, and it is only from “the people that government has any power.
Well that writes off the whole state of West Virginia..../sarc
(Proud Mountaineer here!)
I don’t condone parents encouraging unhealthy lifestyles or refusing to intervene when a child is obviously engaging in disordered eating, but the kid is going to be worse off growing up knowing he was ripped away from his family and caused them and himself great pain because of his size.
I don’t want to imagine the affects of this traumatic experience on the boy’s future body image and relationship with food.
Maybe the mom is ineffectual, but an 8-year-old is not in her presence 24/7/365. What is he eating elsewhere? What is he eating when she is not home? Are other people sneaking him food? (He could, for example, have a Grandma who thinks he's being deprived if mom is cutting him back and who sneaks him food).
Have they done enough medical testing to be certain that there are no medical causes for his weight (a remote possibility but still a possibility).
While it's unhealthy for a child to be 200lb at 8 years old, it's also unhealthy for every adult in his life to be totally focused on his weight, to the point that he is removed from his home and his mother and put in foster care.
And dont get me started on the cult that is transgenderism.
Cult! What an interesting thought. That puts the whole transgenderism concept into a different perspective.
Incidentally, Word 2010 recognizes planned parenthood should be Planned Parenthood; indicating a high level of acceptance in society. But Word 2010 does not suggest a spelling for transgenderism; suggesting that the Overton window has not yet forced society into agreeing anybody should be able to mutilate their sex organs.
“it is only from the people that government has any power.”
People have forgotten that and the schools certainly don’t teach the concept.
If a parent or parents were beating/burning/sexually abusing a child... take the child. If a parent or parents were allowing a child to starve, wander the streets as little ones etc... take the child. My point is if there is direct abuse/neglect then the child is in imminent danger. This boy is in danger of possibly getting high blood pressure or possibly having heart disease. Social Services... if they really wanted to help this boy would give the Mother access to a nutritionist (I’m sure there are government ones already) and advise the Mother to take him to a gym with a trainer (someone trained in exercise/the body etc). There is a good chance that this boy will NEVER be thin (it may not be his particular body type and metabolism). He could be healthier but not fit into the exact range on a chart. IMHO.
No. What’s the cutoff? What if he’d weighed only 189? What if he had weighed 220 but now was losing? Who decides?
Would the Constitutional Convention have voted this in?
What is WRONG with the socialists?
Once again, I am in full agreement with you.
There are definitely times when interference by government is a necessary thing, but the problem is government has overstepped its boundaries.
Unfortunately, we, as a society, have actually brought this upon ourselves by our insistence the government do more and more for us (we/us being used collectively not specifically) and until this mindset of dependence is rolled back, it is only a matter of time before it gets worse.
Warning to all adolescents, young men and women. Do not engage in sexual activity - it WILL result in pregnancy and the choices will be;
Marriage - under pressure.
Abortion - murder for convenience.
Adoption - from the unwitting to the unknown.
“What were they feeding him?”
Balloons and sponges!
If the woman is getting any kind of assistance remove it. No food makes people skinny.
End world hunger. Feed the obese to the starving.
Tear him from his mothers arms!
Call in professional law enforcement officer if need be.
The mother has been in treatment with the child for two years...so I am not sure this is completely neglect. I believe also that the hospital reported them to services two years ago and the state has been monitoring the situation ever since.
the kid started dropping weight
Then piled it back on real fast- Mom said she “tried” to stop the other kids from feeding junk food to fattie
She “tried”- and failed. She can't control her own home environment.
This child is gonna die young if the state doesn't get him into treatment
The implicatoions are dire. What, we are going to have some government agency (Local, state, or federal) now checking each child’s weight and body fat content against some chart and then have a government mandated weight and body fat allowance?
Who decides what those numbers are?
Who is in charge of checking and enforcement?
This is simply unconstitutional. There is no power granted the states or the federal government for these powers. The people where this occurred need to wake up.
All of need to beware against moves of this nature by the progressives and liberal so-called “do gooders” who are really only interested in these children to the extent they can be used to control all of us.
America at the Crossroads
yep any parent who fails to immediately fix problems should lose custody, yep thats the American way.
Do you not think that over the past 20 months social services has not tried all of that?
Taking the child is not the first resort it is definitely the last resort
and the social workers have a complete case file documenting 20 months of their efforts at intervention and her neglect, because they always expect parents to hire a money grubbing lawyer and take them to court
Unfortunately due to confidentiality they generally cannot tell their side of the story to the press like mama’s lawyer
“and the social workers have a complete case file documenting 20 months of their efforts at intervention and her neglect, because they always expect parents to hire a money grubbing lawyer and take them to court”
Such a shame that parents should be allowed to have legal representation. The horror!
social workers here in Florida have lost hundreds of kids, some of who end up dead. Guess that documentation wasn’t quite so complete.
What did Shaq O’Neil weigh at age 8 ?
Is the kid also 6’ tall ?
He sounds like the dude from the movie “The Blind Side”.
If she was starving him into a life-threatening health condition for the past 20 months, and it was getting worse not better, despite home visits and home observations and other family support and interventions, would you decide it wasn't anyone else’s business?
Should parents of children who receive food stamps, and then the children come to school on Monday morning telling the teachers that they did not eat all weekend, lose custody? Since the schools now feed them at least 2-3 times a day....