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American Airlines files for Ch. 11 protection
Yahoo! News / The Associated Press ^ | November 29, 2011

Posted on 11/29/2011 12:24:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — American Airlines' parent company is seeking Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection as it seeks to unload massive debt built up by years of accelerating jet fuel prices and labor struggles.

The nation's third largest airline also said its CEO Gerard Arpey will step down. He's being replaced by Thomas Horton, currently the company's president....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlines; americanairlines; bankruptcy; bhoeconomy; chapter11; economy; texas; unemployment
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More good news in Obamaville.
1 posted on 11/29/2011 12:25:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How to solve union problem. Avoid strike, agree to anything, then declare chapter 11.


2 posted on 11/29/2011 12:27:45 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read somewhere this morning that it was costs driven by the unions.


3 posted on 11/29/2011 12:29:37 PM PST by Ben Mugged (The truth is incontrovertible)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

in 1999 we owned a ton of AA stock. I need a new car, so I sold like 600 shares and bought a Nissan Maxima in cash. Those were the days...good thing I didn’t hang on to the stock...car’s gone too! LOL!


4 posted on 11/29/2011 12:29:37 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

in 1999 we owned a ton of AA stock. I need a new car, so I sold like 600 shares and bought a Nissan Maxima in cash. Those were the days...good thing I didn’t hang on to the stock...car’s gone too! LOL!


5 posted on 11/29/2011 12:30:08 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While there is a LOT of AMR history that has led to them going broke, there is a key line in the bankruptcy filing that needs to be repeated over and over, and if needed, beaten in to the skulls of today’s liberals.

“the key to profitability is a competitive cost structure”

DUH...
Why do so many on the left not understand this?


6 posted on 11/29/2011 12:30:08 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The have an old fleet and crappy customer service.


7 posted on 11/29/2011 12:34:25 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Frankly, with what is taking place in our airports today, I can’t see how any airline is staying in business.

This homeland insecurity thing is way out of control.


8 posted on 11/29/2011 12:34:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Watch for them to merge with either British Airways or US Air.


9 posted on 11/29/2011 12:38:01 PM PST by Beaten Valve
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“Watch for them to merge with either British Airways or US Air.”

There is a guy in the desert named Doug Parker, who is likely thinking that exact same thing, at the moment.


10 posted on 11/29/2011 12:41:05 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Beaten Valve

Wonder if Branson would look at buying them?


11 posted on 11/29/2011 12:43:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Ben Mugged

even uber-liberal CNBC said/inferred this was caused by union greed earlier today...


12 posted on 11/29/2011 12:45:03 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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“Wonder if Branson would look at buying them?”

Not without a complete overhaul of the non-US ownership rules...


13 posted on 11/29/2011 12:47:52 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet that AA will be using chapter 11 to either break or win big concessions from their unions.


14 posted on 11/29/2011 12:59:26 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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You can bet the SCOPE clauses in the union contracts will be the FIRST thing that AMR gets rid of.

These have kept AMR uncompetitive for TWO DECADES now, and has strapped them with a huge fleet of unprofitable 50-passenger jets, for years.

Now they can go get a bunch of mid-range 70-100 pax jets, and turbo-props. Bombardier is probably licking their chops right now.

Without SCOPE, AMR might well have survived it all.


15 posted on 11/29/2011 1:18:35 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did TSA fondle them going to the court house when they filed it?


16 posted on 11/29/2011 1:26:20 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: tcrlaf

Being a lay-person in aviation union terms....can you explain to me what SCOPE is?

I definitely have noticed that AA’s fleet is old.....older than its competitors. They still primarily fly the MD-80s, which are over 30 years old.


17 posted on 11/29/2011 1:26:34 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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SCOPE covers what the airline can fly. Since the unions demand that those that fly bigger aircraft get paid more, they limit the types of planes that can be flown by the parent company.

For instance, AA’s SCOPE Clause has been, for two decades, that non-AA pilots couldn’t fly anything larger than 50 seats, because they feared regionals would take jobs from mainline pilots. That would make having AA-pay scale pilots flying smaller planes an unprofitable proposition.

It was amended in recent years to allow 70 seaters, but just a VERY FEW.

This was the major point of contention in many of the Airline Strikes of the Late 80’s/Early 90’s.


18 posted on 11/29/2011 1:44:34 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
American Airlines' parent company is seeking Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection as it seeks to unload massive debt built up by years of accelerating jet fuel prices and labor struggles.

Now there is a company that won't be pushing those 99%ers around any more!...even if those 99%ers are American Airline workers.

19 posted on 11/29/2011 1:58:21 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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More good news for Obama. He will now “bailout” AA like he did GM. Protect union contracts and bosses, dictate what kind of planes to fly, dictate what airports to fly to, and all the rest of “centrally planned” AA.


20 posted on 11/29/2011 2:25:37 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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