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Perry says will deport all detained illegal immigrants
Reuters ^ | November 29, 2011 | Jason McLure

Posted on 11/29/2011 1:19:39 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

..The Texas governor has faced criticism from Republican rivals like Mitt Romney for being "soft" on illegal immigrants, because those who live in Texas can attend state universities at the same cost as other Texas residents.

Perry, who made the remarks while campaigning in New Hampshire with a controversial Arizona sheriff, said that if elected he would immediately order the deportation of any illegal immigrant detained in the United States.

"My policy will be to detain and deport every illegal alien who is apprehended in this country," Perry said. "And we'll do it with an expedited hearing process so that millions of illegal aliens are not released into the general population with some hearing date down the road."

Non-violent illegal immigrants who are arrested are currently allowed to stay in the country while awaiting deportation hearings in immigration courts.

Perry was briefly among the front-runners for the Republican primary nomination after entering the race in August, but has been hit by attacks on his immigration views and stumbled in a series of poor debate performances.

Recent polls show Perry running in fourth or fifth place among Republicans nationally, and about sixth in the relatively moderate state of New Hampshire.

But ongoing problems with sexual misconduct accusations against rival Republican Herman Cain could arguably encourage some conservative voters to take a second look at Perry.

Perry's endorsement by Joe Arpaio, who claims to be "America's toughest sheriff," was designed to rebut criticism of his immigration policies.

Arpaio has drawn national attention for creating all-volunteer armed posses to sweep for illegal immigrants in Arizona's Maricopa County..

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; border; cronyism; deportation; heartless; illegals; larazarick; liar; perry2012; perry4amnesty; perryastroturfing; ricardo; slickrick
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1 posted on 11/29/2011 1:19:47 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield
Iowans for Christian Leaders in Government Put Presser on Vander Plaats

........" YOU AND MR. GINGRICH SHARE A MUTUAL FRIEND IN JIM NUSSLE

In 2006, Mr. Nussle ran for Governor and asked that you serve as his running mate; an offer your willfully accepted.

In the nineties, Mr. Nussle’s current wife was working for Mr. Gingrich; while Mr. Gingrich’s current wife was working for a committee which Mr. Nussle served on in the House of Representatives.

Furthermore, both men were married when they began affairs with each other’s staff members – all while Mr. Gingrich was leading the investigation into Bill Clinton’s extramarital affair with Monica Lewinsky. This is an unfortunate irony.

More importantly, it points to a willful disregard of personal behavior and you are forever linked to both of these candidates in a way that is unacceptable for many of us who demand Christian leadership.

Which brings us to our next concern."....

2 posted on 11/29/2011 1:22:06 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hasn’t Obama stopped detaining them?


3 posted on 11/29/2011 1:25:11 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If his intent were to detain and arrest every illegal who show themself he would be arresting and deporting every person that applies for his In State tuition for illegals.

Damn Rick don’t think we are all too stupid to see through this one.

M<aybe you should think this over. Not that I am against it mind you, but it doesn’t make sense for someone who approves of In state tuition.


4 posted on 11/29/2011 1:25:25 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
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5 posted on 11/29/2011 1:25:46 PM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So being against them getting cheaper tuition rates than out of state citizens is HEARTLESS but kicking them all out of the country isn’t?

Color me confused.

(But to be honest, with the Cain train derailing I’m still looking)


6 posted on 11/29/2011 1:26:34 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Get Perry to support the following and he automatically becomes the front-runner overnight:

1. Use E-Verify for all employment and all acquisition of Social Services
2. Build a complete border fence, not just strategic, but complete.


7 posted on 11/29/2011 1:26:41 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

After he’s sent them to college with an in-state tuition discount?


8 posted on 11/29/2011 1:26:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If he will do it if he wins the Presidency,

Why can’t he do it NOW as a sitting Governor?
Notice he does not mention anything about the here and now.
What he can do NOW, as Governor.

Therefore, he is not serious. Just promises.


9 posted on 11/29/2011 1:27:48 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Would this include all illegal Texas residents who are attending universities with in-state tuition rates?


10 posted on 11/29/2011 1:28:21 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Venturer

Perry won’t detain any of them, so we are back to square one.

How can he oppose e-verify and think we’ll ever take this seriously?


11 posted on 11/29/2011 1:28:51 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SoConPubbie
Get Perry to support the following and he automatically becomes the front-runner overnight

Pre-election talk and post-election action are two different animals with this guy. Take it from a Texan.

12 posted on 11/29/2011 1:32:36 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"My policy will be to detain and deport every illegal alien who is apprehended in this country," Perry said. "And we'll do it with an expedited hearing process so that millions of illegal aliens are not released into the general population with some hearing date down the road."

Good. He's catching up to Newt's plan, which has had this in it from the start.

13 posted on 11/29/2011 1:41:34 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just listened to him on Sean Hannity. The one thing I always appreciate is how enthusiastic he is about governing. His plans are action plans not just discussing ideas in meetings. If he gets hung up on the silly gotcha moments, it’s almost understandable. For God’s sake, he’s a sitting governor. He doesn’t have the same mindset as a congressman, an ex-congressman, an ex-governor or a business-rescue executive. He’s head and shoulders above the fray and I’m suddenly beginning to see how he may have wanted to avoid it. As he said to Sean, how often do you have to debate? And we already have a smooth-talker in the White House. I hope the people will listen to what he’s saying.


14 posted on 11/29/2011 1:43:40 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: SoConPubbie
Might as well get used to it. No one is going to build a continuous fence from Gulf to Ocean. Ought to be done, at least anywhere that the terrain allows for foot or vehicle traffic, but it will at best be around the more densely populated crossing points.

Not saying I agree with this, but I can read the tea leaves. "Strategic fencing" is the new buzzword appearing in a these plans.

15 posted on 11/29/2011 1:47:03 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Venturer

The Governor of Texas is not in charge of deporting anybody, the feds are. Enforcing immigration law is something the feds have not seriously done since the 1950s. Eisenhower was the last President to make it a priority. The feds are also responsible for forcing the states to provide welfare, food stamps, free medical care and primary education to illegal alien kids. I think it is dead wrong, but I can kind of understand the thinking behind the tuition thing given that feds are doing pretty much everything possible to attract more illegals into the country.


16 posted on 11/29/2011 1:49:55 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: hinckley buzzard

If he serious about illegal immigration.

Why doesn’t he start doing something NOW.
After all, he still is the sitting Governor of Texas.
He could enact laws like Alabama.

The truth is, he is not serious. Only bogus campaign promises.


17 posted on 11/29/2011 1:49:55 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: FryingPan101
As he said to Sean, how often do you have to debate?

If you are running for president of the US, every four years. It is a fixture of the campaign. No sense pretending otherwise. Do what you got to do Rick. There aren't any shortcuts.

18 posted on 11/29/2011 1:52:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“After he’s sent them to college with an in-state tuition discount?”

Considering our current state of affairs, I wish you would listen to him regarding illegal immigrants. There is no one who has a better grasp or understanding of the failure of the federal government than Rick Perry. It’s so silly to chant the same old stuff day after day, isn’t it? Perry gets it. He’ll fix it. It has nothing to do with in-state tuition. People who go to college are not the ones who crawl thru the deserts or tunnels on their bellies.


19 posted on 11/29/2011 1:53:06 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: jospehm20

But he can enact immigration laws like Alabama did...

That is, if he were really serious. But he is not serious.


20 posted on 11/29/2011 1:53:31 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

CW: Here he is saying what we want him to say, promising to do what we want him to do, and there are still skeptics. You can’t really blame them, can you?
I guess it’s is his fault for waiting so long. The way I see it, it’s like `No new taxes!’ and Bush the elder. Our promise to him, Break your word and you’re fired. He broke his word.
The guv can’t be this stiff and as big a spaz in front of family and friends as he is in front of voters. Why can’t he just loosen up? (without sounding hammered)
Well, at least he’s saying the right things now and he’s got Joe behind him, and that’s saying a lot. Politics is a lot like `football time’ (as my wife complains): a lot can happen in a football minute.


21 posted on 11/29/2011 1:55:54 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: tennmountainman; SunStar; GeronL; Cincinatus' Wife

Try some facts for a change...

The governor of any state cannot deport anyone, cannot detain anyone, only the Feds...

There is a long list of his actions on things he can do. It has been posted many times.

If he could deport, which he cannot, the children of illegal immigrants are not detainable. They were brought here by their parents when the parents entered.

The statement was that he would deport all that are being detained now, if he becomes President, which is a reversal of Obama’s policy to deport only those who have committed crimes...other crimes than entering illegally.

The fact is that the children of illegals must show that they have attended a tx high school for 3 years and graduated, to be considered for in state tuition.

Whereas a citizen from another state can move to tx, establish residency for a year, and get in state tuition.

A few facts, yep, try it.


22 posted on 11/29/2011 1:58:08 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: tennmountainman
I don't know. I'm lukewarm toward Perry and don't know why he doesn't push laws like Arizona's or Alabama's. He opposed a fence too, until this latest elaboration about "strategic fencing." Probably because the hispanic voters in Texas would put him out of office.
23 posted on 11/29/2011 1:58:39 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

I hope Perry self deports to Mexico.

I hope democrats, illegals and other who are for the illegals’ invasion of America also self deport.

I hope anyone that is for the invasion of China products into the U.S., ditto..


24 posted on 11/29/2011 1:59:03 PM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: tennmountainman

Gov. Perry is serious about border security and stopping illegals.

He’s put $400 Million of our Texas state dollars on an INTERNATIONAL border that the federal government refuses to secure. He is a border governor who has had to deal with those federal laws regarding educating illegals and giving them health care and paying to keep them in jail — the costs, the crime, all the problems allowed to explode due to non-action by the federal government.

Rick Perry is the only one running who has dealt with this, fought the abuse of inaction and consistently worked to seal the border.

Perry supports states efforts to combat the flood of illegals but he also knows how the courts immediately shut down any efforts and how it costs states millions in legal costs to fight the very government that is charged by the Constitution to protect and defend our borders.

As president Rick Perry WILL seal the border. As a governor, his hands are tied.


25 posted on 11/29/2011 2:00:05 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GeronL

Because if E-verify is anything like the *no-fly list (government run) it will likely be use against us.

This is why no one is in favor fo a national ID.


26 posted on 11/29/2011 2:00:48 PM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What good is deporting illegals when they will be back ASAP?

Any deportee found in this country should be given a year of HARD labor to pay for the cost of finding them.


27 posted on 11/29/2011 2:00:50 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: tennmountainman

Yep...Absolute bogus bull cheet.

Bush redux...


28 posted on 11/29/2011 2:02:45 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: txrangerette

Let me offer a few “Facts”.

As a sitting Governor, he can lead in enacting state immigration laws like Alabama.

If he is so serious, why isn’t he helping to enact state laws like Alabama.

Ho bout dat fact? What’s your excuse for him on him?


29 posted on 11/29/2011 2:03:48 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: txrangerette

Let me offer a few “Facts”.

As a sitting Governor, he can lead in enacting state immigration laws like Alabama.

If he is so serious, why isn’t he helping to enact state laws like Alabama.

Ho bout dat fact? What’s your excuse for him on that?


30 posted on 11/29/2011 2:04:42 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: hinckley buzzard
....He opposed a fence too, until this latest elaboration about "strategic fencing." Probably because the hispanic voters in Texas would put him out of office.

Support your candidate but don't lie about Perry. He has always supported strategic fencing in urban areas.

31 posted on 11/29/2011 2:05:15 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tennmountainman

Texas just enacted Voter ID and proof of citizenship to receive a Texas DL.

IIRC, (along with nearly every illegal immigration law passed by any state) these are under federal review.

If Perry says [as President] he will detain and deport, he will do it.


32 posted on 11/29/2011 2:06:37 PM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Sure am glad Perry is for strategic fencing.

Understanding what a fence can and can’t do in various situations, and maximizing the exact other assets that will actually secure the border.

Understanding the massive attempted land grab and water rights issues, and another country being along the fence line that has rights whether WE like it or not.

I’ll take his credentials as the ten year governor of the state with the longest, most difficult border, over any.


33 posted on 11/29/2011 2:06:56 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What’s holding him back in enacting immigration laws like Alabama? As Governor, he has that power to lead and sign.

Is something wrong with his arm, where he can’t lead and sign a bill like Alabama’s NOW?


34 posted on 11/29/2011 2:08:52 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman
....If he is so serious, why isn’t he helping to enact state laws like Alabama.....

All you get is tied up in the courts and it costs the state taxpayers millions. Once a border governor like Perry, who WANTS the border sealed and illegal immigration STOPPED sits in the White House, this will FINALLY happen.

35 posted on 11/29/2011 2:08:52 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Very confusing, earlier this month you posted an article where Perry was pushing for a US visa program to let illegal immigrants come and go freely.

Now he's saying he would deport them. It maybe flip-flopping on Perry's part or it maybe his campaign panicking with only 5 weeks left till the primaries, but it's good flip-flopping. I hope that Perry goes all out on this and makes it clear that he's serious about this..

Along with this, he should apologize for calling us heartless.
36 posted on 11/29/2011 2:08:57 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: wolfcreek
Texas just enacted Voter ID and proof of citizenship to receive a Texas DL.

After almost 12 years in office...Just in time for Perry's campaign!

Barf...

37 posted on 11/29/2011 2:10:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Will Perry deport them before tax payers pay for their education, or after?

During a campaign the air is full of speeches - and vice versa.


38 posted on 11/29/2011 2:12:17 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-Bolton-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: af_vet_rr

You know how cute you are twisting the facts and tossing out apples and calling them oranges? Not very.

The border is sealed. The country decides what workers are necessary, how to give work permits, who applies for citizenship and where they get in line. But with the border sealed the flood of illegals coming in stops — and there will most likely be a flood going out.


39 posted on 11/29/2011 2:13:09 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Alabama law, as of today, is still standing.

So what’s holding Perry back now? Your excuse for Perry’s inaction is very weak.

Pass the law, let the courts sort it out.


40 posted on 11/29/2011 2:14:46 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

The legislature could have, but did not when they met this spring. Perry called them back for a special session to pass an anti-sanctuary city law, and they failed to do that much. When the in state tuition for illegals passed, a large majority of the state legislature voted for it. I am disappointed by that, but the Texas legislature is who Perry has to work with.


41 posted on 11/29/2011 2:15:50 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: shield

Hey, that’s a nice photo! Listened to Perry on Hannity while driving home. I like him.


42 posted on 11/29/2011 2:15:50 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: dragnet2

It took Gov. Perry 6 years working with the Texas legislature to get the PHOTO voter ID bill passed so he could sign it. Now Eric Holder is “looking” it over.


43 posted on 11/29/2011 2:16:19 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tennmountainman
Alabama law, as of today, is still standing.

With no teeth -- with the asking of legal status of students blocked.

44 posted on 11/29/2011 2:18:19 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm not trying to be cute - In the article you posted about the work visa program idea that Perry was pushing, he said you secure the border and then "put a program into place in which these individuals can be identified, and work visas in which they can move back and forth between their countries but not to become United States citizens

Now he is saying that he would deport these people. I'm glad he changed his mind, and regardless of whether it's flip-flopping, I'm wanting to see a Rick Perry that is a lot more hostile to illegal immigrants, and this is a start. I won't vote for him in the primaries, but if he somehow gets back into contention, I'd feel better about supporting him in the general.
45 posted on 11/29/2011 2:18:47 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: tennmountainman

First deal with false statements about what a governor can and can’t do.

Second, we are not a dictatorship, we have a legislature. They are very, very independent minded in what they decide to do, when and how.

Third, we are Texas, we are not any of these other states. We chart our course on issues, not theirs.

We support their rights to enact laws, and we have joined in lawsuits supporting their rights. We do not tie ourselves to what they do, just support their rights. States rights.

I don’t have to make excuses.

I’m pro Perry as by far, by very far and away, the best choice and the most credentialed one running against Obama.

Not a one of the others is anything but totally imperfect.

Just as my candidate is. But my candidate offers the best of the bunch we have running right now.

Extremely proud of that.


46 posted on 11/29/2011 2:19:23 PM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: jospehm20

So why doesn’t he keep bringing the bill back up?

Excuses, excuses.

CA is overrun, and lost for good. Texas is not far behind
in the same fate.


47 posted on 11/29/2011 2:20:31 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Great, if Perry can hoodwink enough people, he can hang this portrait in the Oval Office.


48 posted on 11/29/2011 2:21:27 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just to reiterate, I think it's wonderful that Perry now wants to deport all illegals. It's a shame that earlier today he got the national voting age wrong as well as the date of next year's election wrong, because that is going to overshadow his comments about deporting all illegals.

But you should be happy to know that I'm passing his comments about deporting illegals around to my friends and family.
49 posted on 11/29/2011 2:21:27 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: txrangerette

I understand quite well the process. That’s why I said LEAD, which means lead the state houses.

If he can’t lead his own state houses, how is he going to lead the DC Hacks in Washington?


50 posted on 11/29/2011 2:23:10 PM PST by tennmountainman
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