Posted on 11/29/2011 4:45:52 PM PST by Toespi
Just heard about this, what is going on?
Today Al-Qaeda, tomorrow the Tea Party, and next week, OWS..
You hit the nail right on the head. These are the three biggest threats to the staus quo that these folks have taken for granted all these years. We have obviously hit a sore spot with them.
How would one prove you are not a terrorist against (mostly electronic) evidence so easily manufactured?
Sounds like they are expecting an insurrection.
10. How many classes of citizens are there, and how did this number come to be?
Answer: There are two (2) classes of citizens: State Citizens and federal citizens. The first class originates in the Qualifications Clauses in the U.S. Constitution, where the term “Citizen of the United States” is used. (See 1:2:2, 1:3:3 and 2:1:5.) Notice the UPPER-CASE “C” in “Citizen”.
The pertinent court cases have defined the term “United States” in these Clauses to mean “States United”, and the full term means “Citizen of ONE OF the States United”. See People v. De La Guerra, 40 Cal. 311, 337 (1870); Judge Pablo De La Guerra signed the California Constitution of 1849, when California first joined the Union. Similar terms are found in the Diversity Clause at Article III, Section 2, Clause 1, and in the Privileges and Immunities Clause at Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1. Prior to the Civil War, there was only one (1) class of Citizens under American Law. See the holding in Pannill v. Roanoke, 252 F. 910, 914 915 (1918), for definitive authority on this key point.
The second class originates in the 1866 Civil Rights Act, where the term “citizen of the United States” is used. This Act was later codified at 42 U.S.C. 1983. Notice the lower-case “c” in “citizen”. The pertinent court cases have held that Congress thereby created a municipal franchise primarily for members of the Negro race, who were freed by President Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation (a war measure), and later by the Thirteenth Amendment banning slavery and involuntary servitude. Compelling payment of a “tax” for which there is no liability statute is tantamount to involuntary servitude, and extortion.
Instead of using the unique term “federal citizen”, as found in Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, it is now clear that the Radical Republicans who sponsored the 1866 Civil Rights Act were attempting to confuse these two classes of citizens. Then, they attempted to elevate this second class to constitutional status, by proposing a 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution. As we now know, that proposal was never ratified. (See Answer to Question 6 above.)
Numerous court cases have struggled to clarify the important differences between the two classes. One of the most definitive, and dispositive cases, is Pannill v. Roanoke, 252 F. 910, 914 915 (1918), which clearly held that federal citizens had no standing to sue under the Diversity Clause, because they were not even contemplated when Article III in the U.S. Constitution was first being drafted, circa 1787 A.D.
Another is Ex parte Knowles, 5 Cal. 300 (1855) in which the California Supreme Court ruled that there was no such thing as a “citizen of the United States” (as of the year 1855 A.D.). Only federal citizens have standing to invoke 42 U.S.C. 1983; whereas State Citizens do not. See Wadleigh v. Newhall, 136 F. 941 (C.C. Cal. 1905).
Many more cases can be cited to confirm the existence of two classes of citizens under American Law. These cases are thoroughly documented in the book entitled “The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code of Internal Revenue” by Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., now in its eleventh edition. See also the pleadings in the case of USA v. Gilbertson, also in the Supreme Law Library.
Excellent cutting and pasting skills, as well as skillful deployment of non sequiturs, but you still have not differentiated between the two phrases, and have attempted to muddy the waters and change the subject again by raising the subject of state “citizens,” which is a non-starter because nations have citizens, states have residents. Try again.
People over-reacting and misquoting legislation for the purposes of fear mongering and polemic. A previous poster gave you the exact text of the bill as presented prior to the cloture vote.
There are far more worrying pieces of legislation up for consideration.
I’d like to personally thank John McCain for providing living proof of the veracity of the statement that “The lesser of two evils is still evil.”
I’d like to personally thank John McCain for providing living proof of the veracity of the statement that “The lesser of two evils is still evil.”
I’d like to personally thank John McCain for providing living proof of the veracity of the statement that “The lesser of two evils is still evil.”
I’d like to personally thank John McCain for providing living proof of the veracity of the statement that “The lesser of two evils is still evil.”
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