Skip to comments.Why They Destroyed Cain in the Primary
Posted on 11/29/2011 6:21:30 PM PST by willk
I've been wondering why they brought these allegations against Cain out during the Primary and not the General Election. After reading about a poll showing most of Cain's supporters will go to Newt it came to me. First of all they gambled that Cain will not win the primary (even without the allegations). Obama and the MSM fear that Romney would have the best chance against Obama. With Cain's voters going more to Newt this is their way of getting a candidate who is easier to beat (notice too how Cain initially suspected Newt and not Romney).
Um when did Cain drop out?
I don’t agree with this assessment but different strokes.........
Respectfully, I don’t buy your idea of a single “they” as in “why did they” bring these charges, etc. In fact, while one was rather obviously a David Axelrod plant, I am not sure there necessarily was a “they” at all.
Second, while I respect that you had the courage to say that at least some in the Obama camp do in fact fear Romney the most, many around here will probably flame you for that. I won’t. I think some Dems fear Mitt, some fear Newt, some fear Cain (or did) - and all for different reasons. I am sure there is no consensus among Dems who the toughest opponent would be.
I do think you are dismissive of Newt’s chances in a general however, another part of your analysis I must respectfully “sell” and not buy.
Cain has a narcissistic side no one wanted to notice. Kind of like what happened to the Dems awhile ago.
Cain hasn’t been destroyed.
I suspect it is the RNC. They want Romney since he is more of the elitist establishment RINO type.
Look how that worked out for them...
Now if Newt is the guy and he picks Cain as VP, slam dunk IMHO.
If he picks Romney no way. Again Romney's support is a mile wide and an inch deep if that. I ain't gonna get geeked up and man the phones for him...
After chatting with some FReepers yesterday, I am beginning to suspect this may go back to a grudge from 1994 and Cain publicly embarrassing a certain president on national television...
There! Fixed it for you!
And the answer is that THEY are scared to death of him! BOTH sides!
“Obama and the MSM fear that Romney would have the best chance against Obama.”
I disagree, they are drooling to get Romney as the only pubbie candidate, he’s the most beatable.
The GOP has been moderated into a coma while the democrats are starting to make the Taliban seem rational. Maybe its time for conservatives and independents to do some soul searching and figure out where they really stand.
Romney is a Democratic stooge and a proven Liberal; That’s why the Democratic Party and the liberal media are working overtime to assist his campaign in every way possible.
That pretty much excludes all of the presidential candidates except Cain.
If these women are being paid to do this, then I wouldn't rule out a rich old guard racist who doesn't want to have to choose between two African Americans in the next election.
This attack was from Romney/Politico/Jonathan Martin/
Rove and the MSM.
Romney is a backstabber bastard.
If he is on the ticket, the GOP will LOSE the House.
“Cain publicly embarrassing a certain president on national television...”
I need reminding on this, interesting!
Sorry, but your premise is completely wrong.
Cain ain’t destroyed, but your boy Romney was dead (politically) before he started.
I don’t know which candidate would have the best chance of beating BO, but I would feel better if BO played some dirty tricks on Romney.
You mean “Why They Are Trying to Destroy Cain in the Primary.”
Romney has his problems, but he certainly isn't the most beatable.
I may agree with Santorum over 90% of the time, be he's burnt toast if he goes up against Obama.
>I suspect it is the RNC. They want Romney since he is more of the elitist establishment RINO type.
I think I’d vote for Obama rather than Romney, if all I had were the two to choose from, primarily because I think that the only real difference would be a ‘D’ to ‘R’ label-change.
That-said, there’s third party candidates, so if the RNC is determined to push Romney that’s where I’m going.
Say what? Care to explain that thought?
I’m sorry but I disagree with the idea about Cain.
Cain cannot be allowed to win the primary.
Obama needs a rich white guy to run against, not a well spoken successful black man.
I like neither of the top two alleged candidates.
No one has voted and the polls are phoney, in my opinion.
Paul, santorum and bachman are not being given a real opportunity.
Johnson of new mmexico and buddy roemer are not even considered.
This is rigged to promote Gingrich or mittens
Woman’s vote - not this woman and not any that I know.
Still putting some of it together but the question came from, who would have known about these bimbos to find them. You can’t just post on Facebook, ‘hey, I filed a harassment claim..’ Someone had to seek them out.
Shortly after this incident, Cain goes on to head the National Restaurant Association- the main goal is to lobby Washington on behalf of restaurants. Cain would be going to all sorts of political events which means, background checks, specifically FBI background checks..
...then we get to missing FBI files and a certain first lady...
All just speculating at this point.. but the idea seems to fill in some gaps.
Wow. Primary over. Vote Cain 2012. Vote Perry on 12 NOVEMBER 2012.
I saw that ... some townhall or something. right?
So he is essentially the Democrats dream version of a Republican candidate?
And conservative Republicans are supposed to vote for him because socialist Democrats say so?
Put down the bong, and walk away from the keyboard.
Must be over 21...
In what universe.
BHO and gang want Romney because they will slaughter him in the general.
Really, fear him hahahahah.
Piss on Romney and all you liberal Romney sycophants
Actually, ANYONE who runs for President has a narcissistic side. It’s just a matter of degree and a matter of being able to control it - or not.
There’s a Primary? Just one? When is it?
“(notice too how Cain initially suspected Newt and not Romney).”
Okay. I missed this. What do you mean he suspected newt first?
Gremlins have been throwing me offline for hours at a time snd I need to catch up here.
Maybe if ya’ll keep saying that Cain is toast, destroyed, can’t win, etc......it will happen....
It keeps being said, and it is still NOT TRUE!
With the amount of effort put out to take down Cain, by media, pundits, desperate women, elitists, etc; and he is still so soundly supported, just think if so many cowards weren’t running what We the People could really do to clean up DC.....
Karl Rove said that Gloria Alred gives Cain’s accuser credibility. Who’s going to defend Romney if he wins?
They’re just fine with Newt as well, for the same reasons.
This must have been written by Bill “Ted Baxter” O’Reilly, as he pronounced Mr. Cain “done” tonight.
I don't think the commies are that well organized.
This is opportunism on their part.
Do we have a sh!tty slate of candidates? Sure, there's no doubt about it.
Still, the GOP is likely to win big in 2012 no matter the candidate.
Too bad it won't be Palin with Christie as VP.
However, as the GOP is want to do, it will likely be Romney or Newt. If I'm forced to hold my nose in the primary between those two, I'll pull the lever for Newt...the illegal loving and lawless, corrupt politician that he is.
Anybody But Obama.
Do you think Mitt Romney’s ineligibility, death panels,
BIGDIG fiasco, love for fees/taxes, or lying
is going to give him the biggest traction with his
supporters like you?
Given the associations with Chicago and Axelrod, for whom the sexual dirt attack on behalf of Obama is such a modus operandi that it's a signature, I suspect the latter. And of course, anything Gloria Allred is involved in is a scam.
Because we NOW know that the new newt is really, under all that phony exterior, a ‘humane’ and brilliant man who can REmake the meaning of ‘is’ into WAS...and everyone knows that WAS doesn’t really count, only what ‘is’.
Not really, they just had to have been known to have filed complaints which no one is disputing. What is disputed is if the complaints are true or not. Those type of complaints happen all the time in businesses as people look for paydays.
Also, remember, what was defeated due to this was Hillarycare, not just some minor bill, but their crown jewel. Some of the players now like Axelrod and Rahm worked for Clinton at the time.
(I think the latest one is just an opportunist who saw the others and is looking for a payday.)
Because he's an idiot when it comes to the Constitution of the United States.
I cite as one example his recommendation that we allow all states to set their own immigration rules.
The man is not fit, knowledge-wise, to be POTUS.
One must know what the Constitution says and what it means to be considered by ANY thinking person.
Yes, they must have principles, and leadership, and conviction and all sorts of other qualities.
But primarily they should be knowledgeable of the Constitution and it's intent as the primary requisite.
Cain doesn't cross that threshold and I could cite several examples.
A CinC that doesn't have an opinion on Iran or Israeli settlements?
Give me a break...
Ignore the polls. They mean nothing. In December of 2003 we were all gearing up for Howard Dean to be the democRATS pick to run against Bush. Kerry at that point was way back and not considered a viable candidate. Look how quickly that turned! It could happen here.
All our candidates are far from perfect. Romney, Huntsman and Perry are three I won’t even consider casting a Primary vote for.
Newt at this point is the new flavor of the month. But as we are all reminded of his baggage (his affairs, his sitting on a couch with Pelosi, his attack on Paul Ryan, etc), I won’t be surprised to see to see the “front runner” shift again. Who knows, maybe Bachmann will have a resurgence, maybe Cain, maybe even Ron Paul. Maybe Sarah Palin will decide the field sucks and jump in. Who knows?
Bottom line is once the candidate is pickedthe whole focus of the election will change. It will no longer be about the Republican candidate. It will be about Obama and only Obama.
The media will lie and tell you “what a tight race this is. It’s neck and neck.” Truth be told, it won’t be close. Obama has a low 30’s% approval among independents. They won’t vote for him no matter how much doubt they have about the Republican candidate. They want him gone. Obama’s aproval among Democrats is on 72%. That’s not good enough to rally the base.
This election will be like 1980. Most independents had doubts about Reagan. But they voted for him because he wasn’t Carter. That will happen again, they will vote for the man (or woman) not named Barack “Barry” Hussien Obama-Dunham-Soetero-Obama
Lets just hope the Republican candidate will as Conservative as possible. If it’s Romney, we’ll just go from hard core Marxisim to medium core Socialism.
Showing your age again? After the primary, I hope we will ALL be able to get behind one candidate and vote OBAMA out of office.