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Chicago school bans some lunches brought from home
The Chicago Tribune ^ | April 11, 2011 | Monica Eng and Joel Hood

Posted on 11/30/2011 5:29:41 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

At his public school, Little Village Academy on Chicago's West Side, students are not allowed to pack lunches from home. Unless they have a medical excuse, they must eat the food served in the cafeteria.

Principal Elsa Carmona said her intention is to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices.

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1 posted on 11/30/2011 5:29:45 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

The Lunch Police


2 posted on 11/30/2011 5:30:59 AM PST by Mustang Driver
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To: metmom; wintertime; rabscuttle385; bamahead

Boy, it’s sure a good thing that the government school is teaching the students they need protection from themselves and from making their own choices!


3 posted on 11/30/2011 5:31:10 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Facists!


4 posted on 11/30/2011 5:31:59 AM PST by jimfree (In Nov 2012 Herman Cain will have more relevant and quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Principal Elsa Carmona said her intention is to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices.

In other words, protect the children from their parents.
5 posted on 11/30/2011 5:32:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Simple, the government shouldn’t be supplying food at all.


6 posted on 11/30/2011 5:32:16 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Its Illinois of course.


7 posted on 11/30/2011 5:33:17 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: Clintonfatigued

“”Who thinks the lunch is not good enough?” the seventh-grader shouted to his lunch mates in Spanish and English.

Any school that bans homemade lunches also puts more money in the pockets of the district’s food provider, Chartwells-Thompson.

The federal government pays the district for each free or reduced-price lunch taken, and the caterer receives a set fee from the district per lunch.

During a recent visit to the school, dozens of students took the lunch but threw most of it in the garbage uneaten.”


8 posted on 11/30/2011 5:35:24 AM PST by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: Clintonfatigued

From the article:

“Any school that bans homemade lunches also puts more money in the pockets of the district’s food provider, Chartwells-Thompson. The federal government pays the district for each free or reduced-price lunch taken, and the caterer receives a set fee from the district per lunch.”

That’s what it’s really all about, the Federal goody, taxpayer-and-Chinese money. It always, always, is.


9 posted on 11/30/2011 5:35:52 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: cripplecreek
"In other words, protect the children from their parents."

...and save the lunch lady's union job. A TWOFER!

10 posted on 11/30/2011 5:37:15 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: wolficatZ

Awww, you beat me to the money quote by 28 seconds!


11 posted on 11/30/2011 5:37:34 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is concerning and just plain wrong on so many levels. Parents are the ones who should decide what their child eats. NOT the school. Whether the majority of the kids receive free lunches or not, the school is mandating that something be purchased. Another school was mentioned in the article that allows food from home but they confiscate (i.e. steal) what they determine to be unhealthy. Some of the children are exempt with a doctor’s note. A DOCTOR’S NOTE? This is beyond ridiculous. It is absolute control over the parents right to nourish their children.


12 posted on 11/30/2011 5:39:20 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Clintonfatigued

Tell me Jose, what does it say when Msssss Carmona thinks your parents are too stupid to pack a healthy lunch for you?

Anyone got a picture of the slim and trim Mssss Carmona?


13 posted on 11/30/2011 5:41:24 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: Clintonfatigued
If their children do not qualify for free or reduced-price meals, such a policy would require them to pay $2.25 a day for food they don't necessarily like.

This has got to be a financial hardship for some families, especially those with more than one child. Unbelievable policy.

14 posted on 11/30/2011 5:41:40 AM PST by McLynnan
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To: JDW11235

LOL, at least we read the article, which most here don’t before commenting.


15 posted on 11/30/2011 5:41:44 AM PST by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: Clintonfatigued

GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS = CHILD ABUSE!!


16 posted on 11/30/2011 5:42:50 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; ...
Principal Elsa Carmona said her intention is to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices.



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17 posted on 11/30/2011 5:45:14 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: silverleaf

I think somebody might want to check Principal Elsa Carmona’s bank account. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if there’s a recent spike in the deposit column. Maybe a trip to the Caymans in her future?


18 posted on 11/30/2011 5:45:41 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: wolficatZ

The thing that got me was that I don’t think I saw a single student name that wasn’t latino. I may have to go back and check the article again, but I only recall Ruiz, Gutierrez, etc. I don’t know enough about Chicago to know if this is a school populated almost entirely by hispanics, or if they’re the only ones that were involved in the article.


19 posted on 11/30/2011 5:45:57 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: silverleaf
Not a full body shot but........


20 posted on 11/30/2011 5:46:23 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: Clintonfatigued

That’s so the kiddies will get the proper dosage of drugs that the Chicago Gov puts into the school lunches.


21 posted on 11/30/2011 5:46:28 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: JDW11235

It's also an article from April 2011!

Fire Elsa Carmona


22 posted on 11/30/2011 5:48:53 AM PST by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: McLynnan

When I was a kid (decades ago), I participated in the school lunch. Unlike many of the other kids, my parents had to actually pay for my lunch. I remember that I didn’t like half of the items I was supposed to eat. When I would go through the lunch line the lunch people would want me to take something, if only a milk, so they could charge me for the lunch. Half the time, I refused (I don’t like milk, anyway), and they would get exasperated. My lunch was a dollar or two at that time, which tells me they were either charging a whole lot for lunch back then, or that this school lunch for $2.25 is heavily subsidized (which I know it is, by the fee and reduced lunch commentary). I’m sure now that it’s both.


23 posted on 11/30/2011 5:50:36 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I went to their website which is skewed and parts are unreadable.

I am wondering if this is a charter school. The staff is very small and nearly all have Latino names.

So?...If this is a charter school then I have no problem with the lunch restrictions. The school is freely chosen by the parents.

If it is a compulsory attendance socialist K-12 school, then this is just one more example of the conflict that **all** compulsory socialist K-12 schools have with freedom of conscience and the First Amendment.

Some Freepers ( some even who are conservative) have complained about my use of the words “all” and “every”. So.....If anyone can cite and example and provide a link to an exception, please post it.

24 posted on 11/30/2011 5:51:12 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: wolficatZ

Good catch! (I almost never check dates)


25 posted on 11/30/2011 5:51:38 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235
The school website is interesting. It is bilingual. ( Really)

I am wondering if this school is a charter school. The staff listed seems to be too small for it to be a normal, prison-like, compulsory attendance, socialist school.

26 posted on 11/30/2011 5:55:48 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Welcome to the USSA, comrades.

The comrade workers of the SEIU must serve ALL meals to the comrade students.


27 posted on 11/30/2011 5:56:55 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JDW11235

So sorry, I sent my reply to your FReepmail box. Eyes aren’t awake yet.

I have similar memories. My two brothers and I took our lunch everyday and bought milk a la carte. With a stay at home mom and a law enforcement dad every penny counted and we didn’t qualify for free lunch. I can remember envying the kids who bought on pizza day!

Off for coffee.........


28 posted on 11/30/2011 5:57:46 AM PST by McLynnan
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To: JDW11235
Any school that bans homemade lunches also puts more money in the pockets of the district’s food provider, Chartwells-Thompson.

Might as well start when the kiddies are young to teach them how to behave under a fascist regime. ...and it is a textbook example of fascism.

29 posted on 11/30/2011 5:58:08 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

In a country where pizza is a vegetable, anything goes.


30 posted on 11/30/2011 5:58:29 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Clintonfatigued
At Claremont Academy Elementary
School Little Village Academy

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Academy? Academy? .....What is this Orwellian “Newspeak”. Is this another example of the corruption of the English language? Isn't the word, “Academy”, general reserved for **private** schools?

Are the socialist bureaucrats attempting to give their socialist K-12 compulsory prisons the patina of private exclusiveness by using the word, “Academy”?

Unfortunately, from the article I am not able to determine if Little Village “Academy” is a charter.

31 posted on 11/30/2011 6:04:05 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: JDW11235
My mother was a "lunch lady" for many years (non-union). School lunches are, and always have been, heavily subsidized. The school lunch programs depended a great deal on government "commodities" such as flour, corn meal, peanut butter, powdered milk, cheese, raisins, and so forth.

It will surprise no one to learn that the way these commodities were apportioned (at least in the '70s and '80s and I doubt it's improved) made no sense whatsoever. Sometimes the schools in our small rural county would be given quantities of certain items that even I, as a young teenager, could see would never be used. The lunch ladies tried their best to use as much as they could, but you can only serve so many raisins in so many ways over the course of a school year. (Commodities were all or nothing, though; the school either took what was given, or got nothing. The excess could not be traded with another school nor given away; eventually it would be wasted.)

The school lunch program, in fact, might be one of the reasons I became a conservative at a fairly young age.

Government "support" of the school lunch program also has always meant government control of the types and amounts of foods served. When you hear Mrs. Obama or anyone else railing about needing to make school lunches healthier, don't forget that the nutritional standards for those lunches have been set by the USDA for at least 40 years.

32 posted on 11/30/2011 6:10:27 AM PST by susannah59
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To: Clintonfatigued

Tator tots? Roast leg of surprise? Mushy lima beans? Apple with worm? All set.


33 posted on 11/30/2011 6:13:11 AM PST by albie
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To: albie

Someone should park a BBQ truck on the street in front of the school.. Serve BBQ tacos for 50 cents. Undercut the school on lunch prices.

With lettuce, some cheese and a bit of salsa, the child will get some nutrition and it would be cheaper.


34 posted on 11/30/2011 6:18:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: susannah59

In the school district of my youth, all of the elementary school lunches were made at a factory, somewhere else. I never received a heaping scoop of mashed potatoes, etc. like you see on the movies. We received small trays (like a TV dinner), with shrink wrap on them for lunch, that way every meal was exactly the same. I don’t know why it was done that way, but it was. I still laugh at the thought of a big heaping pile of some food or another, just because I never saw it. I remember something that my dad told me, as a kid. He didn’t like the USDA food pyramid, because when he first saw it, he remembered where he saw it first, On some kind of feed used to fatten pigs (we have similar physiology). I dunno if it’s true or not (he does have a good memory). He has never liked the food pyramid of government telling us what to eat!


35 posted on 11/30/2011 6:25:15 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: 6SJ7

Yep. Can’t have competition, free thought, or choice, can we?


36 posted on 11/30/2011 6:27:40 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: McLynnan

Haha, when I first saw the FReepmail, I thought it was a super secret lunch secret. It’s still early, so no worries. :-)


37 posted on 11/30/2011 6:28:49 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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"When I was a kid

I only ate the school lunch for part of one year when I was in the eighth grade at a catholic school. The food must have been leftovers from the Civil War it tasted so bad. You had no choice in what was on your plate, every kid got the same horrible muck. The soup was a runny, awful smelling vegetable/mystery meat soup. The peanut butter looked and tasted like industrial grade sludge. The smell of the canned green beans and creamed corn still lingers in my nostrils and turns my stomach. And so on.

Finally the principal said I lived too close to school so I should either bring a sack lunch or go home for lunch. I lived not quite a mile from school, so I gladly ran home for lunch. But even a lunch of baloney lunchmeat sandwich and an apple was preferable to the lunches they served at the school.

38 posted on 11/30/2011 6:33:23 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Wow, that IS horrifying!


39 posted on 11/30/2011 6:34:56 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
she could not say how many schools prohibit packed lunches and that decision is left to the judgment of the principals

Uh, no. The judgment is still in the hands of the parents. The principal works at the discretion of the community, not the other way around. Enough parents get together and attend school board meetings this principal would be leaving the district. Better yet, run for a seat on the board. A peaceful group of parents paying the principal a visit and writing to the paper or tv news station are also options. I'm sure the local news has a comment section on their website, so parents can voice their opinions. Bottom line, this principal has made a public slap across parents' faces and they shouldn't cower and take it.

I would also question her motives in getting so many school lunches sold. Is she getting a kickback from the vendors?

FWIW, about once or twice a year our kids' principals have stepped out of line and minimal actions taken just by myself corrected the problems toot sweet.

40 posted on 11/30/2011 6:45:30 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: liberalh8ter

With a honker like that, I’d place a bet she’s getting her grains in the liquid form.


41 posted on 11/30/2011 6:49:11 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: bgill

I wish I could have found a full body shot....I’m betting she’s shaped like a pear.


42 posted on 11/30/2011 6:54:05 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: Clintonfatigued; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

43 posted on 11/30/2011 6:55:07 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I didn’t notice anything in the article but does this rule also apply to school employees? Such as the principal?


44 posted on 11/30/2011 7:01:31 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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To: JDW11235; susannah59

We moved around a lot when I was in school. The big city school lunches were nasty but the small town lunches were great. Out in the rural areas, the lunchroom ladies were country moms who knew how to put out a spread. You could smell the homemade yeast rolls baking an hour before lunch so you were drooling in class. They never served mystery meat except for the fish sticks on Fridays. If they were serving lemon chicken, you’d get a real piece of chicken complete with the bone and crispy skin. Yes, they got government commodities but even those were tasty - cheese, peanut butter, real butter, honey, etc. We’d get pb nearly every day and no one died of peanut allergies. They’d either mix honey and pb in a dixie cup and serve it with a real apple, a half a pb sandwich as a side or a big homemade pb cookie. Good eats!

Even when I was grown and having to visit schools for my job, the rural schools still had better lunches than the city schools that bought pre-made slop.


45 posted on 11/30/2011 7:11:07 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: JDW11235
"horrifying"

If you recall prison movies where one of the prisoners throws his tray of food on the floor and shouts that he and the other inmates won't eat this lousy slop anymore, that's what the food was like. Except us inmates had to eat the horrible chow or face the wrath of the nuns constantly monitoring our eating habits. "You eat that soup...don't be so sloppy...finish what's on your plate." I'd like to have picked up a lunch tray and thrown it on the wall, but the nuns would not have taken that defiance kindly. (smirk)

46 posted on 11/30/2011 7:14:41 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Clintonfatigued; xsmommy

Of course, if any of the kids needs an abortion, it’s: “My body, my choice.”

Lunchtime, not so much.


47 posted on 11/30/2011 7:15:52 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: JDW11235

When I was in elementary school (back in the ‘60s) the food was reliably mediocre. Not home or commercial quality, but tasty never the less. Better than C-rations or MREs that I ate later in life.

Except for the yeast rolls. We had GREAT yeast rolls... Somebody when to baking school or had a family recipe that scaled up well. They were really good.


48 posted on 11/30/2011 7:17:41 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Real reason: Some kids bring things from home that other children want. We all have to be even. If Johnny has a cookie in his lunch bag and Jose does not have a cookie on his free lunch tray, there is no justice in America.

The Ain’tgots are always looking to get something from the Gots.


49 posted on 11/30/2011 7:20:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: bgill

Pre-made slop is right.

I have to say, your first part of the post made me hungry even though I just ate, way to go!


50 posted on 11/30/2011 7:27:47 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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