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National Defense Authorization Act. (Liberty end)
congress.org ^ | 11/29/11 | Cathedra

Posted on 11/30/2011 5:55:39 AM PST by Broker

Under the ‘worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial’ provision of S.1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which is set to be up for a vote on the Senate floor this week, the legislation will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who supports the bill.

The bill was drafted in SECRET by Senators Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.), before being passed in a closed-door committee meeting without any kind of hearing. The language appears in sections 1031 and 1032 of the NDAA bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at congress.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carllevin; constitution; defauthorization; liberty; lindseygraham; mccain; possecomitatus; tyranny
Senator Rand Pauls analysis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rghhz_t5POo&feature=uploademail

Sponsors: Senators Graham and McCain

1 posted on 11/30/2011 5:55:43 AM PST by Broker
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To: Broker; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

The Constitution of The United States of America. R.I.P 2011


2 posted on 11/30/2011 6:00:20 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: Broker
Permanent loss of freedoms, never ending war, end of Posse Comitatus Act protections?

The original 1878 Posse Comitatus Act was indeed passed with the intent of removing the Army from domestic law enforcement. Posse comitatus means “the power of the county,” reflecting the inherent power of the old West county sheriff to call upon a posse of able-bodied men to supplement law enforcement assets and thereby maintain the peace. Following the Civil War, the Army had been used extensively throughout the South to maintain civil order, to enforce the policies of the Reconstruction era, and to ensure that any lingering sentiments of rebellion were crushed. However, in reaching those goals, the Army necessarily became involved in traditional police roles and in enforcing politically volatile Reconstruction-era policies. The stationing of federal troops at political events and polling places under the justification of maintaining domestic order became of increasing concern to Congress, which felt that the Army was becoming politicized and straying from its original national defense mission. The Posse Comitatus Act was passed to remove the Army from civilian law enforcement and to return it to its role of defending the borders of the United States.

3 posted on 11/30/2011 6:01:53 AM PST by Broker (Beware of Community Organizer in Chief!)
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To: Broker

Where is Rand a senator from, Kentucky is it?


4 posted on 11/30/2011 6:10:23 AM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf; Broker

Libery doesn’t always die to thunderous applause, as George Lucas put it.

Sometimes it dies as a few sentences buried in a piece of legislation.

Broker, thanks for posting the video. Think I’ll drink myself a shot of absinthe (which is legal here) as a valedictory toast to the USA.

RIP.


5 posted on 11/30/2011 6:25:31 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf; Broker

Oops. Make that “Liberty” in the first sentence.

Sad news causes typos.


6 posted on 11/30/2011 6:26:55 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Broker

Bump


7 posted on 11/30/2011 6:32:30 AM PST by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: NakedRampage
Rand Paul, US Senator Kentucky

http://www.randpaul2010.com/

8 posted on 11/30/2011 6:34:15 AM PST by Broker (Beware of Community Organizer in Chief!)
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To: Broker
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!"

9 posted on 11/30/2011 6:35:02 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Broker

Oh, McClueless is in on this?

Will someone please, please leave a democrat crumb trail into a spaceship where we can lead the dolt to a locked capsule and then launch this butthole to the sun?


10 posted on 11/30/2011 6:36:16 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: Broker

Section 1302 (b)(1) states, “(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.”


11 posted on 11/30/2011 6:38:20 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Broker

Outrageous!


12 posted on 11/30/2011 6:42:37 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Broker

‘The ACLU is urging citizens to call their Senator and demand that the Udall Amendment be added to the bill, a change that would at least act as a check to prevent Americans being snatched off the streets without some form of Congressional oversight.’

An amendment? Nope, dump the entire thing and start over by writing it in the full light of day.


13 posted on 11/30/2011 6:42:49 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Da Coyote

Sad to say, both McCain and Graham are US Military Officers. We can call McCain an “ancient sea lawyer” (BS artist) and Graham a “JAG Officer” (real lawyer). Obviously, both are comprimised with staff members who play these puppets into deceptive legislation.


14 posted on 11/30/2011 6:42:57 AM PST by Broker (Beware of Community Organizer in Chief!)
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To: ltc8k6
The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.”

key word: "requirement"

15 posted on 11/30/2011 6:49:37 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Anyone see the democrat budget yet?)
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To: Broker

We set this up with the Patriot Act.

Sad to say, but you reap what you sow. We did this to ourselves.


16 posted on 11/30/2011 7:32:36 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Broker

anything done behind closed doors where McCain was involved is not to be trusted


17 posted on 11/30/2011 7:34:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: redgolum

Our TSA, Homeland Security, etc all seem so similar to Brown/Black Shirt Nazi-German thugs. What have they ever thwarted? Our NSA, DIA, CIA, FBI; what have they prevented? Bloated US Federal Government is a menacing monstrosity.


18 posted on 11/30/2011 7:43:46 AM PST by Broker (Beware of Community Organizer in Chief!)
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To: Broker

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/afternoon-fix-biden-says-tea-party-republicans-acted-like-terrorists/2011/08/01/gIQAt3D5nI_blog.html


19 posted on 11/30/2011 10:09:46 AM PST by freedommom
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To: Broker

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/afternoon-fix-biden-says-tea-party-republicans-acted-like-terrorists/2011/08/01/gIQAt3D5nI_blog.html


20 posted on 11/30/2011 10:09:58 AM PST by freedommom
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To: 556x45
‘The ACLU is urging citizens to call their Senator and demand that the Udall Amendment be added to the bill,...

Anything that is pushed by ACLU and Mark Udall is almost certainly not good for American citizens.

21 posted on 11/30/2011 10:23:10 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi
Anything that is pushed by ACLU and Mark Udall is almost certainly not good for American citizens.

In this case they are quite right and we are in peril.

22 posted on 12/05/2011 10:47:20 AM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... | We are Gulag Bound)
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