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Need for Brazil Debt Kills US Defense Company ^ | November 30, 2011 | Political Calcululations

Posted on 11/30/2011 8:59:49 AM PST by Kaslin

How dependent has the United States government under President Barack Obama become upon borrowing money from foreign sources to support its spending?

Would you believe the answer is: "enough to exclude a long-time U.S. manufacturer from consideration for a defense contract in favor of a foreign-based manufacturer, despite the U.S. manufacturer having invested considerable time and profits earned from their other products to develop a product that specifically satisfies the government's needs?"

AINonline's Chris Pocock reports:

The U.S. Air Force has apparently chosen the Embraer Super Tucano to meet the Light Air Support (LAS) requirement. Hawker Beechcraft's AT-6 was the other contender. No official announcement has yet been made, but Hawker Beechcraft said it received a letter from the USAF that excluded the AT-6 from the hotly contested competition. The company is protesting the decision to the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO).

The LAS competition was designed to produce an alternative to jet combat aircraft for counter-insurgency operations. The Air Force planned to buy 15 aircraft for a training school at Eglin AFB, Fla., but had not confirmed plans to equip any of its own squadrons.

However, the U.S. was expected to supply or sell LAS aircraft to various countries, starting with 20 for Afghanistan. It was this potential that led Hawker Beechcraft and partners to spend “more than $100 million to meet the Air Force's specific requirements,” the company said.

Last month, Hawker Beechcraft completed weapons drop tests with the AT-6, a modification of the successful T-6 primary trainer on which all U.S. military pilots graduate.

Meanwhile, Embraer teamed with Sierra Nevada Corp to offer the EMB-314 Super Tucano, and said it would assemble the aircraft in a new facility at Jacksonville, Fla. carries the Associated Press' article, which describes the size of the contract, as well as the Hawker Beechcraft's investment in its AT-6 program (emphasis ours):

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) -- The Air Force has notified Hawker Beechcraft Corp. that its Beechcraft AT-6 has been excluded from competition to build a light attack aircraft, a contract worth nearly $1 billion, the company said.

The company had hoped to its AT-6, an armed version of its T-6 trainer, would be chosen for the Light AirSupport Counter Insurgency aircraft for the Afghanistan National Army Corps. The chosen aircraft also would be used as a light attack armed reconnaissance aircraft for the U.S. Air Force.

The piston planes are designed for counterinsurgency, close air support, armed overwatch and homeland security, The Wichita Eagle reported (

Hawker Beechcraft officials said in a news release that they were "confounded and troubled" by the Air Force's decision. The company said it is asking the Air Force for an explanation and will explore all options.

Hawker Beechcraft said it had been working with the Air Force for two years and had invested more than $100 million to meet the Air Force's requirements for the plane. It noted that the Beechcraft AT-6 had been found capable of meeting the requirements in a demonstration program led by the Air National Guard.

It's all the more remarkable because the U.S. company has been laying off its workers given the current economic climate.

By contrast, Hawker Beechcraft's competition for the defense contract, Brazil's Embraer, is under investigation by the SEC into possible corrupt practices. The Wall Street Journal's Paulo Winterstein reports:

Brazil's Embraer SA, the world's No. 4 aircraft maker, said Friday that an investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission into possible corrupt practices shouldn't hurt the company's chances of selling planes to the U.S. military.

The company said Thursday that it was subpoenaed by the SEC, but Chief Executive Frederico Curado said Friday the investigation in itself shouldn't affect its ongoing bid to sell Super Tucano aircraft to the U.S. Air Force. Mr. Curado said he expects the government to announce a decision within "weeks" on a contract reportedly valued at $1.5 billion.

"This is a new process for us but as far as we understand it, the investigation won't have an impact," he said in a conference call with journalists. "Restrictions in dealings with the U.S. government would come only after a conviction."

Embraer said that the SEC and U.S. Justice Department are investigating possible breaches of the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which prohibits company officials from making payments to government officers to get or keep business. The company declined to give details beyond saying that the investigation is related to Embraer business dealings in three countries.

So how does the United States' federal government's need to borrow large amounts of money from foreign sources perhaps come into play in stacking the deck against of a mid-size U.S. manufacturer against the fourth-largest maker of aircraft in the world for a U.S. defense contract? Source: U.S. Commerce Department

As the fifth largest major foreign holder of U.S. debt, one whose share of that debt has been growing consistently for several years, the Obama administration may well have made a strategic decision to favor Brazil's Embraer company as a reward for Brazil's growing ranking among all foreign holders of U.S. government-issued debt.

With a good portion of Embraer's Super Tucano aircraft being manufactured outside the United States, the move will increase the U.S.' trade deficit in goods and services with Brazil, which in turn, will be balanced by the U.S. government's "export" of U.S. Treasury securities to Brazil.

The move is strategic because developing Brazil as a major holder of U.S. government-issued debt would offset China's outsize influence over the United States given its status as the largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasury securities. Since China has previously flexed its muscles with respect to its interests through the markets for U.S. Treasuries, the Obama administration is likely seeking to reduce its potential influence.

That influence is substantial. Through the end of September 2011, the U.S. Treasury reports that China holds $1.15 trillion in U.S. government-issued securities directly, and another $109 billion indirectly through Hong Kong. Meanwhile, a very large portion of the United Kingdom's reported U.S. government debt holdings of $421.6 billion are actually controlled by Chinese interests. The figure currently recorded for the U.K. is largely a consequence of the nation's position as a major international banking center, which will be revised in several months time to reflect actual holdings by nation.

The bottom line is that if a comparatively small U.S. manufacturer of airplanes with a major investment in its future to develop an aircraft that can do what the U.S. government wants and can demonstrate that's the case needs to be pushed aside in favor of a foreign manufacturer with considerable ethical issues regarding its business practices, and if doing so will help it borrow more money to spend, then that's what the Obama administration will do.

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: defenseindustry; pentagon; scandal

1 posted on 11/30/2011 8:59:59 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

And what are the Pentagon’s perfumed princes saying about all this? Silence.

2 posted on 11/30/2011 9:10:19 AM PST by Melchior
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To: Kaslin
Zero would like to see the US defense industry gutted, as its one of the last areas of unquestioned US technological leadership and of US manufacturing jobs. He and his apparat don't like any of those things.
3 posted on 11/30/2011 9:11:28 AM PST by mojito
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To: Kaslin

The Tucano was the better aircraft with a long service history, and we need it now, not after years of additional development by Beechcraft.

4 posted on 11/30/2011 9:30:38 AM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile
The Tucano was the better aircraft with a long service history, and we need it now, not after years of additional development by Beechcraft.

The Tucano does appear to be a more polished product than anything Beechcraft has.

What's not really clear is that we "need it now". What is it that we need it for on such short notice?

5 posted on 11/30/2011 9:37:59 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Kaslin
This article should be emailed to all friends, relatives, coworkers, etc for the country to see what fools are running this country. The ass..le in the WH is spending our money supposedly touting his jobs bill on the one hand and on the other makes decisions that are so diabolically opposed to that aim it only leads you to one conclusion. Namely, because of the lack of coverage by the major media in this country the story goes untold to the masses while he gets all the coverage about the Congress neglecting their duties and not passing HIS job's bill. This man is a one man wrecking crew that was set up to destroy this country single handed. He's doing a marvelous job, with the help of the media and the idiots in the congress that agree with him.
P S. If your going to criticize my post, please provide the rationale that permits the defense dept to ignore laws that exclude foreign vendors from being selected to make our war effort materials.
In any event this administration is bent on assisting communism for its governmental policies and to elevate the muslim religion on its social agenda. If you don't see it happening, your in for a rude awakening down the road.
6 posted on 11/30/2011 9:38:03 AM PST by bramps
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To: mojito

There are potential US defense sales to Brazil that easily dwarf the size of this contract.

We can’t completely exclude foreign companies (and remember all the assembly happens in the US) from our defense contracts, and then expect them to buy our own stuff.

Virtually every comment on these Tucano/Beechcraft threads is by someone that has absolutely no idea what they’re talking about.

7 posted on 11/30/2011 9:45:35 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Kaslin

The piston planes are...

AT6 and Tucano are both turboprops. Look like great fun to fly!

8 posted on 11/30/2011 9:55:04 AM PST by RitchieAprile (Precious little in your life is yours by right and won without a fight..)
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To: Kaslin

What the article fails to mention is that what the AT-6 had been working on for the ‘last two years’ and spent ‘$100 million’ on was already present in the Super Tucano years before that. The Super Tucano was already meant to join some years ago since it met all the needs of US forces in Afghanistan, but some Congress critters decided to bring the T-6 in. Now, it is one thing to say that it would have been a good thing to buy an ‘American’ aircraft (there is a reason those quotation marks are there), but it has nothing to do with superior capability. The Super Tucano was made from the ground up to be a war machine - the AT-6 is a converted trainer. The Super Tucano had capabilities years back that the AT-6 still has to demonstrate. The more capable aircraft was chosen.

9 posted on 11/30/2011 10:18:00 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: tacticalogic
Part of the requirements were that the aircraft in question be in service now, not in "development". The Beechcraft didn't meet the requirements of the RFP, plain and simple.
10 posted on 11/30/2011 10:19:47 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
Part of the requirements were that the aircraft in question be in service now, not in "development". The Beechcraft didn't meet the requirements of the RFP, plain and simple.

I understand it was part of the requirements of the contract.

I also understand the tactic of writing requirements so that only a predetermined vendor is likely to get the contract.

I don't question that it was part of the written requirements, I question what it was that dictated it be a requirement.

11 posted on 11/30/2011 10:36:37 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Kaslin
I agree it smells like a bribe to Brazil so they will keep buying or Treasury bills. Soros is heavily backing Brazil too. It is really stupid for Obama to turn his back on US war-readiness manufacturing.

A recent HotAir artice sheds MORE light on this topic...

Oddly enough, Embraer has been in the news lately. Less than three weeks ago, the Brazilian airplane builder announced that the SEC had begun a probe — for corruption...
Corruption? I am SHOCKED that someone dealing with Obama might be accused of corruption! The going rate for kickbacks on contracts in Illinois used to be 5%. I'd bet Brazil offered even better than that, while Beechcraft probably offered Zero zero.

Here is the level of sophistication that Afghasistan is used to...
They don't need the best fighter jets in the world. That would be a 'stupid' waste of taxpayer funds.

12 posted on 11/30/2011 2:08:35 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: tacticalogic
What's not really clear is that we "need it now". What is it that we need it for on such short notice?

Needed it last year Imminent Fury. We've discussed this

An Historic PR "fumble" in the Super Tucano vs AT-6 Public Fight

Rep. Allen West makes the case for LAS and the A-29 Super Tucano

13 posted on 11/30/2011 5:09:24 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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