Skip to comments.Rove: Gloria Allred Gives "Credibility" To Cain's Accuser (Establishment pubs help the left)
Posted on 11/30/2011 2:00:47 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
Karl Rove defends Sharon Bialek, who is accusing Herman Cain of sexual assault, because her attorney is Gloria Allred.
"Credibility matters here. And Gloria Allred, while she is a Democrat and a liberal Democrat and openly so -- nonetheless, has been involved in a number of high profile cases like Tiger Woods and others where the charges have been borne out.
"So this gives Ms. Bialek's charges and accusations a little bit of credibility, and that's what we're talking about here -- credibility."
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
When the media levels a charge, in rush all the spineless republicans to give validity to any charge the media makes.
Liberal media armed with establishment republicans is a deadly weapon to conservatives.
Howie Carr just announced that Bialik got evicted again today. Yeah, REAL credible.
I have a fantasy that Karl Rove secretly reads this website and reads that I, me, a conservative republican despises his pompous arrogant elitist butt more than I despise virtually anyone on the LEFT.
That’s my fantasy.
So what good does it do anyone for you to post a 3 week old story? One that was FReeped several times over when it first broke? 3 weeks ago.
No, Tokyo Rove. Gloria Allred attracts flies just as well as a pile of dogsh*t. Your statement just proved it.
I’ve never liked Rove, but lately I despise him.
Yep. The useful idiot thought she had found her gravy train. Too bad she failed in her quest, and was dropped for the new accuser.
Well, I’ve long thought that at least part of the attacks on Cain have been coming from the GOP establishment, or at least quietly encouraged by them. So, I’m not really surprised at Rove’s statements.
Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Baily.
He was never with us...We've just been too angry with our enemies over the last decade to give much notice to the global puppet masters and their minions on the right.
Gloria Allred, CNN Dec 06 Panel Re announcement that Rape Charges vs Duke LaCrosse players would be dropped, when DNA test results finally revealed and “victim” changes her story:
[Subsequenty, all charges dropped, and DA(Nifong) disbarred for intentional prosecutorial misconduct in the case]
Excerpts from AllRED Panel Interview:
GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY FOR VICTIMS` RIGHTS: Well, I think, Jane, that it certainly hurts rape victims when the handling of the case — when it is done in the way that this particular district attorney has done it.
In other words, if in fact it`s true that he withheld exculpatory evidence from the defense; if in fact it`s true that he didn`t interview the alleged rape victim earlier on in the process; if in fact it`s true that he only had lacrosse players at the lineup and not anyone else, thereby allowing the defense to challenge the lineup and the identification, then, you know — then that hurts his case.
And hurting a high profile rape case or what was alleged to be a rape case is certainly not good for rape victims.
And I`m not ready to conclude, by the way, that this alleged victim lied. It may be that she was under the influence of drugs or alcohol or both at the time of the alleged incident. It may be that she`s emotionally shell-shocked since then by all of the attacks on her.
We don`t know why she`s saying now what she is alleged to have said, that is, that she can`t testify with certainty that, in fact, there was a penis that — that penetrated her vagina on that day.
Just days after that stunning announcement, the key exculpatory evidence was withheld by the D.A. Word now prosecutors have re-interviewed the woman, and she has changed her story again. Now she says she`s not sure that she was vaginally penetrated by a penis, so the rape charges have been dropped.
I want to go to victims` rights advocate Gloria Allred, because what disturbs me also is the finding of unidentified male DNA that is not from the lacrosse players in this woman`s body. And, you know, of course, it`s so disturbing to even discuss this. It feels so violating to get that graphic, but this is what this case has become.
It would imply that she wasn`t honest with the prosecutors from the get-go, because you would think that she didn`t say, “Hey, I have several other men that I`ve been intimate with in the last couple of hours”?
GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY: Well, we don`t know how long that other DNA was in her body. So we don`t know whether it was just a few hours or substantially longer period of time.
But, you know, for people who want to call her a liar, you know, if she wanted to lie, she could say she was absolutely certain that there was a penis inside of her vagina and then proceed with the rape charge. Yes, I know there`s no DNA, but, I mean, she could have said that and she didn`t.
So maybe people should give her more credit than they`re giving her for her honesty, even though her story may be a little different now. You know, maybe her recollection is different or maybe she`s not certain now.
By the way, she`s not just a stripper. She`s also a college student. But, unfortunately, the press often doesn`t describe her as the college student that she also is.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I see what you`re saying. And I want to go back to Gloria, because this is really point-counterpoint. And he also makes a valid point that perhaps she`s been victimized as well, because this is obviously going to tarnish and affect her life for the rest of her life. And you remember the Tawana Brawley case. This kind of thing really goes into the history books.
And she`s got to live with this for the rest of her life. He could have circumvented it, if he really felt that it was a very weak case, and said, “Hey, you don`t really necessarily want to proceed with this unless you`re absolutely sure.”
ALLRED: Well, absolutely. I think that she may very well have been a victim of District Attorney Nifong, because I think a district attorney really has a duty to vet the case.
I have seen cases, Jane, where rape victims have gone in, there`s a whole lot more proof than appears to exist in this case, and still district attorneys don`t prosecute. And especially in a high-profile case where they seem to require so much more than even the law requires, in order for them to stick their neck out as a D.A. and prosecute.
So I think that perhaps there has been mishandling of this case by the district attorney. Whether or not it`s too late to save it, it`s hard to tell at this point. But I do feel very sorry for the alleged victim, and just the fact that her story may be a little different doesn`t mean, again, that she lied.
I see that your other guests are not seeming to give any weight whatsoever to the fact that she might have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time of the incident, and also her emotional state may have been such that it did have an impact on her memory.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, Gloria Allred, victims` rights attorney, jump in here, because I think that you really show the other side, in terms of the fact that we have to prosecute difficult cases, messy cases in this country, because that`s also part of achieving justice?
ALLRED: Well, of course. And whatever Nifong does, he`s going to be criticized.
He drops his rape charge because he doesn`t think it`s in the interest of justice to pursue it and because he doesn`t think he can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, and he gets criticism for dropping it, and then he gets criticism if he doesn`t drop it.
In that way, I feel a little sympathetic towards him, although I wish he had never called them rapists in the first place. And he has hurt himself by some of his initial press statements.
You know, having said that, this case is not over yet. And we don`t know how it`s going to end. So, you know, for those people who just kind of want to hang him from the nearest tree, I think we still need to be cautious. We still need to wait and see. There may or may not be a trial.
He seems to be headed that way. But maybe in the end he`ll drop it. I don`t know.
And I am concerned, too, Jane, about what kind of support this alleged victim is getting. You mentioned that she`s estranged from her family. Has she been isolated? Has she had the advice of a private attorney? Has she had the support of advocates that an alleged victim in a high-profile case especially needs?
We don`t know the answers to that. And I`m concerned that she might be feeling fearful at this point, feeling anxious, and maybe feeling very much alone.
I turn off the TV every time he shows his face.
Rove is such a snide piece of crap.
I’m sick and tired of this buffoon attacking our side because they do not fit into his establishment.
OOPPS got to turn the TV over as there is no way I will listen or watch that awful show called the five with Perino, Beckel and the Tantaros.
Right I’m back.
Rove is the reason why Sarah and others were never defended when the left have gone after our lot and I’m so sick of these beltway elitist types
Cain is one of the true tea party candidates and he’s a threat to the establisment.
Nothing worse than an enemy who comes to you with a smile.
I do it with a few choice words to boot...
Just leave Mr. Cain alone and look into the actual sexual activities of Mr. Newt Gingrich!
Rove talking about credibility, ha ha.
Rove is simply acting at the behest of his masters in the Republican Washington establishment. They will continue to attack Cain until he withdraws or is rendered a total nonentity. Cain can not be permitted to win in their view.
Shut up Karl.
"Go Mitt. Go Mitt. Go Mitt"
The Arsonist causing a little friction.
The suet bag should be more careful with fire.
Anyone who still believes that Karl Rove has any credibility or that he is, in any way, ‘conservative’ is extremely naive. He is an establishment shill and he is doing all he can to subtly but surely denigrate conservative candidates such as Herman Cain with the ultimate goal of securing the 2012 GOP presidential nomination for RINO Romney. That cannot happen.
Yabut Tokyo has lost his mojo cred.
Rove was dancing all over Newt's grave earlier this year when he lost some campaign staff.
Later he called him “unelectable” while lauding his guy, Mitt Romney.
Just recently he predicted Newt would have “Indigestion” from the immigration remarks and would fall back into the second tier - while simultaneously praising Mitt Romney's position on the issue.
It is largely believed that Rove is behind the early leaks and perhaps recent tracking-down of Cain's accusers (He seems to know about pending allegations before Cain does: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/karl-rove-allegations-against-cain-have-been-out-there-for-at-least-10-days-video/). He has been the one spreading the talking point that “Newt doesn't have the organization to win,” lauding Mitt's “enormous” organization.
Rove dislikes Newt as much as Cain. Don't you worry one bit about it - he's been canning Gingrich since earlier this year.
This from a guy who was targeted for jail from the same credible people. What a piece of human debris.
Pray for Cain
Tokyo Karl is trying to ingratiate himself with the lamestream media outside of FauxNews. Any conservative candidate should consider him the enemy - never deal with him. Ever.
Rove needs to be sent to the closest institution for the incredibly stupid...
He's not a factor for Republicans at all (except for RINO's and Establishment Elite). He's been a Romney-the-RINO booster from the git-go.
Basically....another steamin' pile.
Lets see: support a gop candidate or support Alred.
Rove, the country is turning against you past and present DC Hacks.
Nah, stay wherever you are, Karl. And to think we all used to idolize this guy. How much we have learned over the past few years.
Welcome to the United Soviet States of America..where the Pravda State Media vet the candidates to the pleasure and needs of the RinoCrat UniParty.
This election will be a non-election...featuring the state approved candidates-whose only distinction is whether they are black or white.
“He was never with us...We’ve just been too angry with our enemies over the last decade to give much notice to the global puppet masters and their minions on the right.”
How true this is!
Karl Rove better be careful of what he wishes. It appears that Herman Cain’s voters are not turning to his boy, Mitt, but to Newt. If Romney has a breath of a chance, it’s if the anti-Romney vote is divided. Once a few of them drop out, probably after Iowa, a front-runner will emerge, and I doubt it will be the Mittens.
Rove made his reputation pushing elitist punk G. W. Bush, “compassionate conservative,” over on us. Bush fought bitterly to get leftist programs like No Child Left Behind, and new entitlements like Prescription Drugs for our Sheniorsh, rammed through. Once that was done, he stood aside while the Pubbie majority played the pork-barrel deficit spending game. The fiscally conservative independents turned against the Pubbies in disgust, giving us our first Marxist President. Thanks a lot, Rove, you “magnificent” piece of scum. You are on TV because you are useful to the commies, you fat punk.
Booyah! Boom! thanks! :)