Skip to comments.NASA Jet Propulsion Lab Employee fired for talking to co-workers about intelligent design
Posted on 11/30/2011 9:34:05 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
Urgent Action Required: Contact the leaders of NASAs Jet Propulsion Lab and demand they make things right.
The Facts According to a discrimination lawsuit filed in California Superior Court, supervisors at NASAs Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) illegally harassed, demoted and retaliated against computer systems administrator David Coppedge without warning after he occasionally loaned pro-intelligent design science videos to some of his colleagues. Coppedges actions were deemed inappropriate even though his colleagues were apparently allowed free reign to attack intelligent design in the workplace. After Coppedge filed his discrimination lawsuit, his position was suspiciously terminated by JPL in January 2011. On Nov. 18, 2011, a judge ruled that Coppedges case presented legitimate issues of fact and law and ordered that the case move forward to a jury trial. Rather than settle the case, the Jet Propulsion Lab has continued to wage legal war on David Coppedgewasting precious taxpayer dollars in the process.
Take Action Now Your phone calls and emails are urgently needed to get NASAs Jet Propulsion Lab to stop its discrimination against employees who think there is scientific evidence of intelligent design. Contact these JPL leaders right now and ask them to settle the Coppedge lawsuit and stop discriminating against employees who believe the universe was intelligently designed: Dr. Charles Elachi, Director of JPL Office phone: 818 354-5673 Email address: firstname.lastname@example.org
Dr. Jean-Lou Chameau, President of Cal Tech [Cal Tech operates JPL under a contract with NASA] Office phone: 626-395-6301 Email address: email@example.com
Be respectful in your message, but indicate that as a taxpayer who ultimately pays for the budget of JPL, you think its wrong to use taxpayer resources to promote discrimination against intelligent design.
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It's Schrodingers cat, scratchin at their door in the wee hours. Maybe tormenting this poor JPL believer will help them sleep...?
Maybe Coppedge will win the case, and use the money to
promote more scientific research which backs up
“intelligent design” or pay for some PhD candidate’s
tuition to do research. And/or get his job back to boot.
Maybe someday it will be discovered that the one who
sends the first intelligible message that the SETI
project receives is the intelligent designer....
Keep politics and religion out of the work place. I go to work to help people, and I don’t want people talking about that junk to me while I’m trying to do my job.
Translation: Rather than knuckle under to this guy's probably ludicrous lawsuit and paying him off with taxpayer dollars, JPL is defending itself against the lawsuit this bozo brought."
Defending itself against this guys lawsuit is not "waging legal war!"
Let's stop the BS here.
It does seem like JPL is crossing a line here, on the face of the description.
OTOH, you don't know how aggressive this guy might have been on these issues. If he was accosting people in the hallways, or interjecting his views during work related discussions, that would be another matter. Somehow, I'd be surprised if this was the case, just based on my general experience in these matters.
Thank “god” you pointed that out...
I swear, it’s time for the private sector producer class to rebel against the public sector parasite class.
We’ve already seen the schism occur since Obama came to power, but we still haven’t revolted, and said, “No More!”
20% of the population has become a de facto enemy force, which is making war against us in our own country - and is using our own institutions and confiscated treasure to do so. Our backs are being pushed against the wall, and I don’t know how much more we can take before we snap.
Those other considerations began in 2009 when the administration found out that Coppedge had occasionally had friendly discussions about ID with fellow employees. Coppedge was not pushy in these conversations; if a colleague wasn't interested, Coppedge dropped the matter. Nonetheless, one administrator yelled at Coppedge and ordered him to stop "pushing religion," which led to Coppedge filing a claim of harassment. But rather than Coppedge's harassment claim being investigated, Coppedge later learned that he was the subject of an investigation that charged him with creating a hostile work environment.
LOL. According to Linkedin, Brian Bierman is CEO of the Mountain Daily News.
I wonder how far JPL's account of the affair would differ in matters of fact. I don't suppose they're saying much, though.
On the other hand, if the guy was minding his business and being harrassed, that’ s a different story. Do remember that it is called the Theory of evolution for a reason. Suppose, for the sake of discussion, that his coworkers learned, in the course of conversation, of his views, and decided mockery over a period of time was called for. Whether or not you agree with his view, that would be found by most as intolerable. Sooner or later, a desire for refuting would doubtless arise.
While we don’t know the genuine circumstances, I raise this as a possibility,based on what little is revealed here, just to say that the benefit of the doubt is needed, at least until we know more. And yes, I say this as a guy who believes in Creation AND that the workplace is for another purpose.
I feel your pain. There are literally thousands of school teahers that have to go to their work places everyday and hear the “JUNK” theory of evolution “TAUGHT”.
Keep politics and religion out of the work place.
Do you mean all religion or just the non-evolution types?
People go to work to to work, and not to have people try to convert them. Stick with safe topics like the weather or sports. I get uncomfortable when people talk to me about religion. Used to happen a LOT when I was at Dell. Can’t really say “Sorry, Francine. I don’t want to talk about Jesus right now. I’m trying to build this computer.” That’d rude. I’d rather Francine just tell me that her grandson won the state spelling bee, and move on and do her job. But now I’m hearing her tell me about God.
Cant really say Sorry, Francine. I dont want to talk about Jesus right now. Im trying to build this computer. Thatd rude.
Well, you must be more polite than most. I’ll tell her for you.
I would politely listen, but then I would say “That’s great, Francine. But I really need to make schedule.”
Maybe people hinted to this guy for a while, then told him to stop doing it, but he kept on doing it. So they fired him.
Like I said... Keep this kind of conversation out of the work place. There are people that don’t want to talk about it.
And for what it’s worth, that’s why Growing Pains ended. No one wanted to sit around and listen to Kirk Cameron talk about God all the time.
And who would want to talk about where you're going to spend eternity when you could be talking about much more important things like how many drinks you had before you tried to pick up some at the bar, or how lousy your football team did over the weekend, or how you flipped someone off because of their crazy driving, etc.
By the way, how did you come up with your handle christx30. I noticed that the word Christ was NOT capitalized. You’re not one of those anti-Christian bigots are you?
Nope. My name is Chris. I live in Texas.
I’m not anti-Christian. Not in the least.
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