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'Iran Planning To Attack US Bases In Germany'
Ynet News ^ | December 1, 2011

Posted on 12/01/2011 6:13:05 AM PST by Strategy

Officials in the German government said Iran will try to target US military bases located in Germany, if Washington launches an attack against its nuclear program in Tehran, German newspaper Bild reported on Thursday.

According to the paper, the German security services held an investigation against a German businessman who is suspected of having secret ties with the Iranian Embassy in Berlin, and helping to plan an attack on American Air Force bases located in the country.

The aim of the attack, the report noted, is to thwart American logistic activities needed in order to carry out a military operation against Iranian nuclear facilities.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; globaljihad; iran; islam; jihad; middleeast; military; usmilitary
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1 posted on 12/01/2011 6:13:15 AM PST by Strategy
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To: Strategy
Obumbler will ask France for advice on what to do about it.If that don't work he will ask Hugo Chavez, then he will go play golf.
2 posted on 12/01/2011 6:17:32 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Strategy

Here’s a question: Why do we still have military bases in Germany? Is the Warsaw Pact resurgent? I sorta understand why we’re still in Korea (although they should be paying us) but Germany?! Huh?


3 posted on 12/01/2011 6:19:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Strategy; archy

I wonder what weapon delivery system the IDF is using against the Iranian nuke sites? Stealth drones dropping stealth missiles against critical nodes?

Whatever it is, I wish them continued good hunting!


4 posted on 12/01/2011 6:20:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Strategy
If we attack their nuclear sites, they will attack our bases with the intent of thwarting our logistical ability to attack their nuclear sites.

Does this make sense to anyone else?

5 posted on 12/01/2011 6:20:44 AM PST by Dick Tater
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To: Dick Tater

It does if you use Mullahlogic tm.


6 posted on 12/01/2011 6:22:56 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Strategy

A reminder to Iran:
About 10 years ago, a ragtag bunch of yahoos destroyed a couple buildings in the USA. The response was to eviscerate two countries.
Don’t go there. It will not end well.


7 posted on 12/01/2011 6:23:18 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do we have bases here, in America, that are maned by foreign troups?


8 posted on 12/01/2011 6:23:40 AM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: coon2000

I believe we have a German air base in Texas. It’s hard for them to simulate combat over the very urban landscape of Europe. No other ones that I’m aware of.


9 posted on 12/01/2011 6:26:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bacause we spent 70 years creating a logistics hub in Germany?


10 posted on 12/01/2011 6:26:56 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because neocons love empire, and if you don’t toe the neocon line, you don’t get power in the GOP.


11 posted on 12/01/2011 6:28:45 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Travis McGee

Several Embassies of European countries closed in Iran yesterday. Many are expelling Iranian diplomats from their countries, too. Shouldn’t be long now.....


12 posted on 12/01/2011 6:30:14 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Wanna keep livin' with your momma? Vote for Obama. Tired of the pain? Vote CAIN!)
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To: ctdonath2
With the current doofus in chief? (DIC - most appropriate) I don't think so. He'll be apologizing to Iran from his golf cart on the 6th green. You know, the cart with the teleprompters?

If he'd only stop facilitating the murder of our own troops, it wouldn't be so bad.
13 posted on 12/01/2011 6:30:18 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Strategy
The aim of the attack, the report noted, is to thwart American logistic activities needed in order to carry out a military operation against Iranian nuclear facilities.

My question is what kind of attack do they think will thwart our military operations? Spraying a base with machine gun fire isn't going to thwart anything. Nor will driving a truck loaded with explosives into a main gate. They cannot attack us in Germany by landing nine divisions of troops. So what are they going to do? They better not even think of what I think they're thinking because that would mean all out war with us and Germany, even with Hussein in the WH, and they'd lose big.

14 posted on 12/01/2011 6:33:05 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve been thinking about that, too. Space based lasers? Particle beams? Rods from God?


15 posted on 12/01/2011 6:35:58 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Strategy

Coordinated timing of the attacks undoubtedly approved by the Obama 2012 campaign. I wonder if their is a chart that compares/contrasts military activity in election years.


16 posted on 12/01/2011 6:38:51 AM PST by ScottinSacto (If a generic Republican will beat Obama, let's not nominate one. Cain/West 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Allow me to answer. US bases in Germany are used for staging and logistical support of missions in the middle east and east Asia.

The Germans, of course, enjoy the economic, political, and military benefits of US bases.

17 posted on 12/01/2011 6:48:20 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: Beagle8U

France will tell Obummer to raise the White Flag and be nice to their friend Iran.


18 posted on 12/01/2011 6:53:17 AM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialist States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: TheOldLady

Methinks a hard enough hit will have the military acting as it sees fit regardless of what the DIC says. There would be a quiet backroom discussion making very clear what’s going to happen and what he’s going to say about it ... and what the consequences of non-cooperation are. “The Chicago way” will go only so far.


19 posted on 12/01/2011 7:00:22 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why do we still have military bases in Germany?

Answer: Because of its sublime infrastructure, convenient location with regard to both Russia and the Middle East, the friendly locals who don't mind the foreign military and, most important of all: the food, the Oktoberfest and the Autobahn (kidding).
20 posted on 12/01/2011 7:10:50 AM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: ctdonath2
That sounds like turning "The Chicago Way" back on his butt.

"Eh... No more American troops have 'accidents,' yuz unnerstan what I'm sayin'?"

I love it and hope there are some military brass with balls of the same to slap that in his face.
21 posted on 12/01/2011 7:11:32 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: LibWhacker

Space-based lasers would have trouble getting through the atmosphere - and would violate at least one treaty.

Rods from God have the same treaty-violation problem as the lasers, and would be trackable on the way down.

Now, a laser on a plane....


22 posted on 12/01/2011 7:28:30 AM PST by I Shall Endure
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Allow me to answer. US bases in Germany are used for staging and logistical support of missions in the middle east and east Asia.

That's the main reason. The other is having nuclear weapons in Germany without Germany having nuclear weapons.

The Germans, of course, enjoy the economic, political, and military benefits of US bases.

All of that's important, but not the main criteria. Take economic benefits: They are huge for east European countries like Moldova, where the dollar is still worth a lot and local labour is cheap. Germany is one of the world's great economic powers (1.4 trillion $ in exports alone last year), so while there is a positive effect for the local economy where soldiers spend money, it's negligable compared to the economy as a whole, plus providing security for these installations is expensive, as German wages are on the higher side.

Political benefits are also a mixed bag. While American soldiers were always popular in Germany (especially compared to les Francais and the Russkis), having foreign military (and a former occupier at that) in the country is never really something one loves. The major benefit is another: Without the US Germany would have to develop its own nuclear weapons program, which would energize the radical left and create social unrest. So Germany is happy not having to get the bomb itself and the US is happy to have one fewer nuclear power to worry about.
23 posted on 12/01/2011 7:29:50 AM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: wolf78; 2ndDivisionVet
2ndDivisionVet: Why do we still have military bases in Germany?
Answer: Because of its sublime infrastructure, convenient location with regard to both Russia and the Middle East, the friendly locals who don't mind the foreign military
Good answer.
24 posted on 12/01/2011 7:37:05 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Strategy

But...but...Ron Paul said Iran wasn’t a threat to the US...../sarc


25 posted on 12/01/2011 8:05:35 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: ctdonath2

Obama wasn’t CIC then, however....his pussiness is the reason for all this Islamobabble.


26 posted on 12/01/2011 8:20:51 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: AdmSmith; freedom44; Valin; LibreOuMort; Pan_Yans Wife; Army Air Corps; GOPJ; mazda77; ...

pong


27 posted on 12/01/2011 8:35:46 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Huck

Neocons and empire building, really? You sure you didn’t mean to post that on DU?


28 posted on 12/01/2011 9:18:20 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I don’t post at DU. I’ve been posting here for over 10 years. Now piss off.


29 posted on 12/01/2011 9:24:02 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Huck

A 10 year posting history is no guarantee that your posts don’t sound like radical lib nonsense.


30 posted on 12/01/2011 9:41:11 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I care what you think. /s


31 posted on 12/01/2011 9:45:57 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Travis McGee
I wonder what weapon delivery system the IDF is using against the Iranian nuke sites? Stealth drones dropping stealth missiles against critical nodes?

I was wondering if there was such a thing as a stealth missile that couldn't be tracked by radar. Then, you could just launch, say, from out in the ocean where no one might see the launch, and just deny doing anything.
32 posted on 12/01/2011 9:51:00 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: LibWhacker

Iranians think Americans are cowards who cut and run on the sight of blood. They feel if we take a few hits our citizens will crumble like they did during the Vietnam war - and protest to ‘bring the troops home’. In short they see us as cowards. They might be in for a big bad surprise if Obama’s NOT reelected...


33 posted on 12/01/2011 10:13:27 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: Strategy

I would think that if they can get SAM’s in the country, they could certainly shut down flights until usaf feels the vulnerable perimeter area (no idea how far out it extends) is clear. This would require clearing building by building, I would assume, and would take some time.


34 posted on 12/01/2011 10:48:15 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Travis McGee

Israel has many citizens of Persian extraction who know
their way around the place.


35 posted on 12/01/2011 11:44:03 AM PST by RitchieAprile (Precious little in your life is yours by right and won without a fight..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

F.O.B.


36 posted on 12/01/2011 11:53:06 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Boogieman; Huck

As I understand it, the original use of “neocon” is an anti-Semetic slur.


37 posted on 12/01/2011 11:57:32 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Logistics to the Middle East and forward serious hospitals much closer than the U.S.A.

There isn’t much left there, militarily. I think virtually all of the Cold War heavy armor is gone, for instance.


38 posted on 12/01/2011 12:05:20 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: airborne

LOL. Sure it is.


39 posted on 12/01/2011 12:08:51 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Strategy

Barak, who is a leftist secular Zionist, is supposedly advocating hitting Iran. I’m not sure if Netanyahu supports this or not. A Mossad general opposes the idea. Israeli internal conflicts erupting in public this way can lead to nothing good. Get it together, Israel. If our SECSTATE was able or even competent, Israel would not be acting so crazy.


40 posted on 12/01/2011 1:36:04 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newt says amnesty isn't amnesty.)
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos
I wonder what weapon delivery system the IDF is using against the Iranian nuke sites? Stealth drones dropping stealth missiles against critical nodes?

It's called Davidka.

Oh, BTW, I hear it always rains after a nuclear detonation....


41 posted on 12/01/2011 2:03:22 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here’s a question: Why do we still have military bases in Germany? Is the Warsaw Pact resurgent? I sorta understand why we’re still in Korea (although they should be paying us) but Germany?! Huh?

Look, it's Top Secret, really above TS, but you've been there, done that, you've earned the right to know. But don't tell anyone else, okay?

42 posted on 12/01/2011 2:07:24 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy

Never rains just scares the piss out of the angels.......


43 posted on 12/01/2011 3:09:18 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Huck
The Neocon Slur

by Victor Davis Hanson

PajamasMedia.com

Much of my correspondence centers on “neocon,” as in Buchanan’s wrong label “neocon court historian.” I’ve written no biography of any administration official, much less been subsidized or asked to do any particular writing to further an administration goal. I have been to the White House only on 3-4 occasions, always accompanied by a larger group of historians of widely differing views.

Neocon means “new conservative” and I suppose refers to those of the once hard left who, largely in distrust of the Soviet Union and disillusionment with Great Society programs, moved right, most prominently during the Reagan era. Buchanan himself worked with them in the Reagan White House, and I would imagine supported their tough, correct stance on rollback, and the questioning of 1960s entitlements.

The word became a pejorative slur with gusto in 2003 with the lead-up to Iraq. Perhaps some essays by neo-cons questioning the motives and patriotism (wrongly I think) of paleo-cons accentuated the falling out. But the big break came in 2004-6 with the insurgency in Iraq, when neocon became de facto synonymous with “Jew” and there were overt efforts to tie Kristol, Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith and others to a sort of covert cabal that had forced us to go to war for Israel — this despite the fact that Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice were neither Jews nor neocons nor malleable dupes. That Francis Fukuyama, James Woolsey, or Bill Bennet were neocons seemed likewise to have had little effect on the Israel “amen corner” thesis.

44 posted on 12/01/2011 4:21:38 PM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: airborne
Why are you posting that to me? To show me that you've since figured out you were wrong when you said "the original use of “neocon” is an anti-Semetic slur".

Neoconservatism has been around for decades. And now you post VDH claiming that it supposedly became a secret code word just 5 or 6 years ago? This proves your original statement to be false. But I already knew it was false.

Take your bilge somewhere else.

45 posted on 12/01/2011 7:17:48 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: airborne

The term “neoconservative” was created by the socialist Michael Harrington about 40 years ago and many of the accused were Catholic.


46 posted on 12/01/2011 7:48:43 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

Like many of our words today, “neocon’ doesn’t mean what it may have meant 40 years ago.


47 posted on 12/02/2011 4:34:18 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Jet Jaguar; Allegra; Oorang; Velveeta

A Look at Iran
http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html

#

http://www.investigativeproject.org/3317/iran-may-target-american-bases-in-germany

INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - For The Record - The IPT Blog: “IRAN MAY TARGET AMERICAN BASES IN GERMANY”
(December 2, 2011, 3:27 pm)

#

http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/iran/plant-angriff-in-deutschland-21311092.bild.html


48 posted on 12/02/2011 2:55:29 PM PST by Cindy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Here’s a question: Why do we still have military bases in Germany?”

Strategic interest. We have bases all over the world to provide closer support our troops anywhere on this planet.

“Is the Warsaw Pact resurgent?”
No. But we support our troops in the middle east from our bases in europe. We need these bases, especially those in Japan and Germany to cover the word with our supply chain.

“I sorta understand why we’re still in Korea (although they should be paying us) but Germany?! Huh?”
I think you “sorta don’t understand” why we’re still in Korea. We’re not there to defend south korea, we’re there to keep the north under control.


49 posted on 12/02/2011 10:12:41 PM PST by buzzer (strategic interest)
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To: coon2000

There are two training centers for the german “Luftwaffe” in the US. One is Holoman AFB Alamogordo,NM the other one is Ft. Bliss El Paso, TX.


50 posted on 12/02/2011 10:17:38 PM PST by buzzer (two locations)
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