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Catholic Bishop Lynch vows to thwart health care law
St. Petersburg Times ^ | Dec. 1, 2011 | John Barry

Posted on 12/01/2011 11:01:32 AM PST by The Barrister

TAMPA — The servants of the Lord wore red as always, and the servants of the law wore pinstripes. But the annual Red Mass for Tampa's legal community struck a new chord of civil disobedience.

Bishop Robert Lynch, leader of nearly a half-million Tampa Bay Catholics, surprised two dozen judges and 300 lawyers Wednesday by promising to thwart the federal health care law. It was a departure from his traditional homilies on the virtues of judicial wisdom.

If draft regulations aren't changed, Lynch said, the Diocese of St. Petersburg will no longer provide health insurance for its 2,300 employees.

Instead, he said, diocesan employees would be paid a cash sum and told to find their own insurance. The health care law, expected to be in full force by 2014, allows that.

"I'm extremely uncomfortable with even thinking of such a thing," Lynch said, speaking at the noon Mass at Sacred Heart Catholic Church in downtown Tampa.

But he said the church is at a "moment of history" in which it must take a stand for "religious liberty and individual moral conscience."

(Excerpt) Read more at tampabay.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bishoplynch; catholic; lynch; obamacare; terrischiavo

1 posted on 12/01/2011 11:01:45 AM PST by The Barrister
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To: The Barrister

Religious liberty was the reason this land was founded.


2 posted on 12/01/2011 11:06:24 AM PST by frogjerk (America: Innocent until accused or considered being accused by an anonymous party)
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To: The Barrister
This is quite something from a man whom I've come to regard as the worst Catholic bishop in the US and he has some extremely tough competition for that award.

There are numerous examples of his pastoral ineptitude and weakness but one of his most underwhelming achievements was his abysmal behavior and lack of moral courage during the Terri Schiavo horror.

3 posted on 12/01/2011 11:10:20 AM PST by marshmallow (.)
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To: frogjerk

“Religious liberty was the reason this land was founded.”

That is absolutely true!


4 posted on 12/01/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: marshmallow

Lynch is really bad news. For him to say this is nothing short of incredible.


5 posted on 12/01/2011 11:12:01 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: marshmallow

Perhaps people have been praying for him.

;-)


6 posted on 12/01/2011 11:12:22 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: marshmallow
My husband's grandfather attended church in the Tampa/Bradenton area. When he died his services were at the church, and his ashes were buried in the memorial garden there. That is where my husband's grandmother's ashes had been buried a few years before. John's last request was to have “Anchors Away” played for his recessional. He was after all a Pearl Harbor survivor. The priest had no problem with this, but later called my in-laws with sad news. The organist and music director refused. We had to get special permission from the bishop to get the song played. However, at the end of the services the organist kept playing up in the loft and would not let us play “Anchors Away.” My husband went up to the loft to discover that the door was locked and neither the organist nor music director would open it. We found out later they were prepared to play the organ for an hour if need be to prevent “Anchors Away” from being played as the recessional. Everyone was in tears at the atrocity. After a very angry campaign to get the two fired, it was discovered that the music director and the organist had a homosexual relationship and voluntarily left the church.
7 posted on 12/01/2011 11:21:35 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
The organist and music director refused.

What did they have against 'Anchors Aweigh?'

8 posted on 12/01/2011 11:28:53 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: John123

In a strange twist of irony the gay duo did not think it appropriate for church, Pearl Harbor survivor or not.


9 posted on 12/01/2011 11:31:54 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: frogjerk
Religious liberty was the reason this land was founded.

If you mean the Pilgrims, then no, it wasn't.

Real Pilgrims Sought Purity, Not Tolerance or Diversity

10 posted on 12/01/2011 11:43:54 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (You're it.)
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To: John123

Probably it was because it was pro-military, pro-patriotism.


11 posted on 12/01/2011 11:48:51 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: The Barrister

That’s a very good start for this VERY liberal bishop.

Next he should begin hiring only practicing Roman Catholics to work for the Church which should be a ministry in itself and rightfully be carried out by those belonging to the Church.

Every diocesan job ought to be an expression of evangelization. How can a non-Catholic evangelize the Catholic faith?????


12 posted on 12/01/2011 11:50:53 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: The Barrister; marshmallow

Well, this sure surprises me, since he was one of the main supporters of the death of Terri Schiavo. He even forbade priests from his diocese to give her Communion or get involved in any way in her case.

He’s also known as “Bishop Speedo” for certain other indiscretions, as well as some legal settlements his prior diocese had to make on his behalf.

But you never know. Maybe God hit him upside the head after the Schivo affair.

I remember reading once about martyrs, incidentally, that you never knew who they would be: the person who defended orthodoxy and looked like he would be firm through thick and thin would collapse and vanish immediately, while the person of whom nobody expected anything would go to the guillotine.


13 posted on 12/01/2011 11:56:57 AM PST by livius
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To: Jeff Chandler
Real Pilgrims Sought Purity, Not Tolerance or Diversity

Are you talking about Puritans or Pilgrims?

14 posted on 12/01/2011 11:59:59 AM PST by frogjerk (America: Innocent until accused or considered being accused by an anonymous party)
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To: The Barrister

When are Obama’s socialist buddies going to just nationalize all those church buidings and send the clergy into re-educatin’ camps? I’m sure Unplanned Parenthood would be glad to rent some extra space. ;-)


15 posted on 12/01/2011 12:09:59 PM PST by rhombus
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To: The Barrister

More importantly red is the color of the martyrs.

I hope these judges and lawyers remember the words of Sir Thomas More, lawyer statesman and more importantly martyr.

More was tried and sentenced to death because he refused to sign his name to a law that would violate his faith and conscience.

At his execution he said, “I die the King’s good servant, but God’s first.”


16 posted on 12/01/2011 12:11:38 PM PST by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: marshmallow

My wife works at a St. Pete diocesan parish office. We have for years wanted to participate in an outside health-care sharing plan for our family, like Samaritan Ministries. This bishop Lynch has been a dictator and refused to let any employee buy outside of their mandated policy. So for years I had to pay twice for my wife’s coverage, thanks to Lynch’s ‘lack of choice’ mandate.

We would love to take the cash in her paycheck and buy it ourselves.


17 posted on 12/01/2011 12:15:50 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: livius; All

The sudden change/irony was not lost on me. Perhaps he has changed for the better; after all, we (as Catholics) like to believe that EVERYONE is capable of earning a full day’s wage in the field, even if it’s late in the day (Matthew 20:1–16). Thank God for the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

As was noted, many are praying for him.


18 posted on 12/01/2011 12:26:59 PM PST by The Barrister
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To: frogjerk

Wake up people see my Tagline,


19 posted on 12/01/2011 12:33:15 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp)
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To: marshmallow

Ditto to everything you said.

Worst Catholic bishop in the U.S.

I wonder what happened to him that he has suddenly taken an interest in doing the morally correct thing all of a sudden.


20 posted on 12/01/2011 12:45:38 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: frogjerk; Jeff Chandler
Jeff Chandler wrote: “Real Pilgrims Sought Purity, Not Tolerance or Diversity”

frogjerk wrote: “Are you talking about Puritans or Pilgrims?”

On this point of wanting purity rather than tolerance for religious freedom, there's no difference between the Pilgrims and the Puritans.

The difference is that the Pilgrims were Separatists who believed the established Church of England was corrupt and secession was (depending on the Separatist writer) either permissible or mandatory, while the Puritans regarded themselves as being members of the Church of England who were still trying to work within it to purify it.

There is no way to argue that any of the early settlers of the colonies other than Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, or (in a very limited fashion) Maryland wanted religious freedom. William Penn wanted freedom for his Quaker views and was willing, based on his pacifist principles, to refrain from persecuting most other groups that today would be considered Protestant evangelicals. The founders of Maryland wanted toleration for English Roman Catholics and as a practical matter were forced to accept Protestant worship in their colony as a condition for obtaining toleration for their own views which were unacceptable in the home country. Only Rhode Island's founders affirmed religious toleration in a form resembling anything we'd understand today, and they did so in reaction to opposition and in some cases outright persecution by both Massachussetts and Plymouth colonial officials.

21 posted on 12/01/2011 12:57:38 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: rhombus

Not when “angry blowback” is promised.


22 posted on 12/01/2011 1:00:00 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: livius
"I'm extremely uncomfortable with even thinking of such a thing," Lynch said, speaking at the noon Mass at Sacred Heart Catholic Church in downtown Tampa.

But he said the church is at a "moment of history" in which it must take a stand for "religious liberty and individual moral conscience."

I'm really stunned. I can't begin to say how much it shocks me to know his history and to hear him utter these gems, as if earlier moments in history weren't clear enough which side he should have taken a stand on. Is he just another hypocrite, or has his heart of stone truly been changed? It will take more than a few words from him for me to be convinced.

Prayers for us all!

23 posted on 12/01/2011 1:01:22 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: The Barrister

Could it be because this bishop in question is getting closer to retirement and he sees the writing on the wall that the next bishop after him will be a much more traditional Catholic?


24 posted on 12/01/2011 1:03:27 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: frogjerk

Neither sect believed in any sort of religious liberty. Roger Williams was driven to Rhode Island because of his beliefs. Mistress Anne Hutchinson had to find refuge in Dutch New Netherland.(remembered by the eponymous Hutchinson River and Hutchinson River Parkway) before moving on to what became New Hampshire. In fact one colony started for purely commercial reasons was the most tolerant and that was New Netherland,until Stuyvesant’s assault on the Quakers, which led to the New World’s first populist demand for religious toleration, the Flushing Remonstrance.


25 posted on 12/01/2011 1:19:27 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: The Barrister

Thank God we still have Catholic Bishops who believe what Jesus Christ taught about faith. If we don’t believe God, what hope do we have for mankind?


26 posted on 12/01/2011 2:28:33 PM PST by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: marshmallow

Thank God St. John Paul III stepped in and took a hand in the matter.


27 posted on 12/01/2011 3:00:37 PM PST by ichabod1 (Vote for Herman Cain 2012!)
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To: PanzerKardinal

The King loved him.


28 posted on 12/01/2011 3:44:02 PM PST by ichabod1 (Vote for Herman Cain 2012!)
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To: The Barrister

“If draft regulations aren’t changed, Lynch said, the Diocese of St. Petersburg will no longer provide health insurance for its 2,300 employees.”

Won’t this push the employees into the federal government exchanges? If so, won’t that defeat the purpose of what he’s trying to do?


29 posted on 12/01/2011 4:28:44 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: The Barrister

>> But he said the church is at a “moment of history” in which it must take a stand for “religious liberty and individual moral conscience.”

Indeed.


30 posted on 12/01/2011 7:52:16 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: The Barrister
But but what about all the poor people who don't have insurance and think of all the children that the new health care will take care of....../sarc
31 posted on 12/01/2011 9:18:27 PM PST by guitarplayer1953
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To: veritas2002

Please see post number 24, your response, I thank-you ahead. :)


32 posted on 12/02/2011 3:34:29 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: FamiliarFace; Barrister

Prayer does work...although on God’s schedule, which can be a little frustrating for the rest of us!

Also, a lot of things have changed since the death of Terri Schiavo. For one thing, we have had a Pope for these last several years who has devoted himself to restoring orthodox moral teaching to the Church and is willing to enforce it, and in addition, the episcopal generation to which Bp Lynch belonged (not a great one) is dying off and losing its power in the Church. Perhaps he’s finding himself in a different situation now, and this may be helping him view things differently.


33 posted on 12/02/2011 6:49:47 AM PST by livius
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To: goodwithagun

...for some reason the sodomy aspect of this just doesn’t surprise me. I’m sad to read that a veteran’s request couldn’t be executed because of the intransigence of two militant degenerates. That’s a really disgusting story.


34 posted on 12/02/2011 1:00:05 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: madprof98
Lynch is really bad news. For him to say this is nothing short of incredible.

Well, I suspect his real motive is to stop paying for health insurance for Diocesan employees.

The corpulent, homosexual Lynch is an opportunist of the first magnitude.

35 posted on 12/02/2011 1:28:17 PM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: John123
What did they have against 'Anchors Aweigh?'

It's the US Naval Academy song.

Navy, you know. Big, haze gray ships. Guns. Missiles. Bombs. Blow stuff up for a living.

The two faggots were probably also passive-aggressive pacifists.

36 posted on 12/02/2011 1:33:31 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: The Barrister

Just a friendly reminder: Bishop Lynch was for the starving and dehydration death of Terri Schiavo. He went against the Pope and all Christian leaders. Lynch is a flip flopper extraordinaire.


37 posted on 12/02/2011 2:48:27 PM PST by floriduh voter ( Obamacare is to you as a can of RAID is to a bug. R A I D !)
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To: marshmallow

Thank you. Bishop Lynch went against Pope John Paul re: Terri. Bishop Lynch had a close call with his own health and somehow, he recovered. Why is it the bad ones always get better? He’s super bad.


38 posted on 12/02/2011 2:50:20 PM PST by floriduh voter ( Obamacare is to you as a can of RAID is to a bug. R A I D !)
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To: FamiliarFace
Guess Bishop Lynch is for euthanasia but against birth control and abortion. He was defintely for Terri dying a painful, cruel, criminal death. Terri was murdered in Blshop Lynch's region.

Ave Maria University in Naples, Fl is probably giving Lynch a run for his money. Ave Maria U. even has a statue of Terri. They must be draining Lynch dry because Domino's Pizza guy started Ave Maria U. and they don't fake their faith like Lynch has.

39 posted on 12/02/2011 2:53:18 PM PST by floriduh voter ( Obamacare is to you as a can of RAID is to a bug. R A I D !)
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To: floriduh voter

Today would have been Terri’s 48th birthday, had she been allowed to live the rest of her natural life.

Happy Birthday, Terri!


40 posted on 12/03/2011 7:10:44 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: The Barrister

I wish him luck with that, they will be a-comin’ around with his little blue healthcare provided death pill.


41 posted on 12/04/2011 12:04:45 AM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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