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BREAKING NEWS on Fast and Furious: Obama knew in May 2010?
Big Government ^ | 12/01/2011 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 12/01/2011 11:49:58 AM PST by blueyon

To date Barack Obama, the dispenser of hope and change and the presiding officer over the least transparent presidency in history, has claimed he only learned about Fast and Furious earlier this year. However, with each new document dump Obama’s timeframe seems to be as inaccurate (or as purposely misleading) as Attorney General Eric Holder’s. For example, just months after he took office it was evident he was focused on a Fast and Furious-like operation, ostensibly aimed at cutting down on gun trafficking on the southern border. Thus, on March 24, 2009, Deputy Attorney General David Ogden made the following announcement:

The President has directed us to take action to fight [Mexican] cartels…and Attorney General Holder and I are taking several new and aggressive steps as part of the administration’s comprehensive plan.

And the following month, April 2009, he stood beside Mexican President Felipe Calderón and uttered words we now recognize as hypocritical and duplicitous at best:

I continue to believe that we can respect and honor the Second Amendment right in our Constitution — the rights of sportsmen and hunters and homeowners that want to keep their families safe — to lawfully bear arms, while dealing with assault weapons that, as we know here in Mexico, are used to fuel violence.

Fast forward one year, and White House logs show that then-Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler met personally with Obama four times between May 7 and May 19, 2010.

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; corruption; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; garygrinder; garygrindler; grindler; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; obama; statedept
Remember Watergate............that was nothing compared to this.............
1 posted on 12/01/2011 11:50:07 AM PST by blueyon
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To: blueyon

Knew? Hell, he probably ordered it in the first place


2 posted on 12/01/2011 11:51:29 AM PST by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: blueyon

That is one of the reasons he is closing the files..Him and his friends need to be in prison..


3 posted on 12/01/2011 11:53:47 AM PST by PLD
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To: blueyon; All

Remember Watergate.....that was nothing compared to this.
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Exactly! Nobody was killed in the Watergate break-in. If anyone can make a campaign issue out of this and “take it to” Obama, Newt Gingrich can.


4 posted on 12/01/2011 11:58:30 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: blueyon

I can't imagine that dealing weapons to drug cartels in a bordering nation is not an impeachable offense. He sent former Lt Col Terry Lakin to Leavenworth for questioning is natural born citizenship. It's time for those chickens his "pastor" speaks of to come home to roost. Obama has earned a stay in a federal prison.


5 posted on 12/01/2011 11:58:51 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: blueyon
The MSM will never pursue this story, even if documents show that Zero was running guns and shooting border patrol agents himself.

And the House doesn't have the stomach for impeachment proceedings.

6 posted on 12/01/2011 12:02:27 PM PST by mojito
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To: blueyon
We have a criminal regime in the White House. Nixon was nothing compared to this criminal organization.
7 posted on 12/01/2011 12:06:50 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: blueyon

What do people think Obama meant when he said he was addressing gun control “under the radar”.....????


8 posted on 12/01/2011 12:07:32 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: mojito; blueyon
Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar' .
9 posted on 12/01/2011 12:07:40 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: PLD

Closing the files amounts to obstruction of justice.


10 posted on 12/01/2011 12:11:35 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: mojito
I know I'm not the only one who knows it will take more spilling of Americans blood to regain the structure of government our Founders left for us. The criminals in DC know that as well thus they developed the Fast & Furious program as the ploy for them to write news laws to initiate the legal confiscation of fire arms. From the revolutionary war and every war this country has been engaged in for the purpose of defending our liberty and way of life has been a waste of American lives. Too sad but it's painfully clear the real enemies of this nation now resides in DC.
11 posted on 12/01/2011 12:24:52 PM PST by drypowder
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To: blueyon
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12 posted on 12/01/2011 12:25:57 PM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: MestaMachine

Yo!


13 posted on 12/01/2011 12:26:51 PM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: djf
Obama and Holder killed a father, husband and FORMER US MARINE.


14 posted on 12/01/2011 12:28:07 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: blueyon
Nobody was murdered at the Watergate.


15 posted on 12/01/2011 12:29:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PLD

“That is one of the reasons he is closing the files..”

Yep. (Too bad that only a handful of Repubs in Congress seem to care about the fact that border agents lost their lives because of this, though).


16 posted on 12/01/2011 12:29:47 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: blueyon
Nobody was murdered at the Watergate.


17 posted on 12/01/2011 12:29:47 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: blueyon

So if Obama commits suicide, will we still have to have our TV schedule screwed up with the horseless carriage thing?

Or, can we simply call it Apple Pie Day and throw another log on the fire? ;>)

Obama lied, people died and then he tried to hide.


18 posted on 12/01/2011 12:32:34 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: blueyon

As long as Barry has some black blood in him, aint nuthin gonna happen because the pussies in D.C. will always fear a nationwide race riot if any justice is done.


19 posted on 12/01/2011 12:39:51 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: All

“Family of U.S. agent slain in Mexico demands to know gun source” (7/17/2011)

Family of U.S. agent slain in Mexico demands to know gun source
The lawyer for Jaime Zapata’s family says U.S. officials refuse to answer questions about whether the weapons used were linked to the Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation...

“What happened with Jaime needs to come out,” the family’s lawyer, Raymond L. Thomas of McAllen, Texas, said in a telephone interview Sunday. “And the likelihood that these were Fast and Furious guns is certainly plausible...”

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/17/nation/la-na-guns-cartel-20110718


20 posted on 12/01/2011 12:40:10 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: blueyon

As long as Barry has some black DNA in him, aint nuthin gonna happen because the pussies in D.C. will always fear a nationwide race riot if any justice is done.


21 posted on 12/01/2011 12:40:26 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: crosshairs

Issa and Grassley are pussyfooting around this.


22 posted on 12/01/2011 12:41:32 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: no dems

“take it to” Obama, Newt Gingrich can.

This is where we need Herman Cain. Take away the race card and Demorats loose it all. Can you spell Pubbie landslide?

Herman is the man.


23 posted on 12/01/2011 12:49:21 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England

Hermans accusers look worse every day


24 posted on 12/01/2011 1:10:28 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: blueyon

“...Thus, on March 24, 2009, Deputy Attorney General David Ogden made the following announcement: “The President has directed us to take action to fight [Mexican] cartels…and Attorney General Holder and I are taking several new and aggressive steps as part of the administration’s comprehensive plan. “

White House logs show that then-Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler met personally with Obama four times between May 7 and May 19, 2010.
Therefore it logically leads one to beleive :
#1 When you have the FBI confidential informant (CI )
#2 involvement of the DEA who knew about the “rip” gang criminal intent to rob another gang of drugs and money
#3 ATF using Federal Stimulus Funds to purchase 2000 weapons
#$and the gang was led by the FBI informant ( CI )
#5 and Homeland Security had the border agents armed with “Bean bags” per SOP (non-deadly force)
#6 and there was no notification to alert the Border Agents of the “rip” gangs intent to rob from another cartel / or to stalk looking for Border agents
#7 and that an agent was shot and killed by one of the ATF ‘Stimulus Guns’
which may have occurred at the hands of an FBI Criminal Informant) who was leading the “rip”gang
#8 and three guns admittedly were recovered, and later amended to only two guns (an SKS never again identified in later discussions)
#9 FBI lab tests on the two remaining confirmed that the guns were ATF purchased (the whereabouts of the alledged third weapon now denied)
#10 the fact that it took one year for Holder to acknowledge to the Terry family his condolences for the loss of Agent Brian Terry
#11 the sealing-up of the records by the DOJ ( Holder)

All this leads me to believe that the DOJ and their alphabet soup ( FBI/DEA/ATF/Homeland Security/DOJ ) are in collusion and therefore subject to :

RICO Prosecution ( organized crime ) which leads up to the chief executive officer who authorized this “aggressive step as part of the adminsitration’s comprehensive plan “ , since this is above Issa and Grassley ‘s legal competance (both non-lawyers) .


25 posted on 12/01/2011 1:39:32 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ( (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11) by GlockThe Vote)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“Issa and Grassley are pussyfooting around this.”

Agreed, until I see some real action, they are nothing to me...I want resignations from Holder and those down the line. Talk is cheap.


26 posted on 12/01/2011 2:23:00 PM PST by oust the louse (Obama approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the United States.)
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To: mojito
And the House doesn't have the stomach for impeachment proceedings.

And what would be the point? In order to convict in the Senate the 47 Republicans would need 20 Demonrat votes. Name the 20 Demonrat Senators that would vote to convict. No, name just 5. There's not a one.

The American people will never want to believe that a man they elected President is a criminal, so don't fantasize that they will love the Republicans for pointing it out. Americans won't, and will give the Republicans scant gratitude for it. And the media slime won't tell them the truth because they lurve this Sack.

27 posted on 12/01/2011 3:39:32 PM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

Power outage catch up ping!


28 posted on 12/01/2011 5:35:42 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

The entire GOP in the house and. Senate needs to walk out and refuse to do business until MaoBama comes clea pn on this.


29 posted on 12/01/2011 5:37:12 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Joe Brower

Thank you for the ping.


30 posted on 12/01/2011 5:38:15 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

>>RICO Prosecution ( organized crime ) which leads up to the chief executive officer who authorized this “aggressive step as part of the adminsitration’s comprehensive plan “ , since this is above Issa and Grassley ‘s legal competance (both non-lawyers) .

In addition to that; it is reasonable to add the US to governments involved in State Sponsored terrorism, as the Mexican drug-cartels are terrorist organizations (re: beheadings), and the US directly provided weapons for them.


31 posted on 12/01/2011 6:23:51 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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