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Gingrich, Santorum, and Bachmann fail to field full slate of delegates in NH
American Thinker ^ | December 2, 2011 | Rick Mor

Posted on 12/02/2011 12:05:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

.... As recently as two weeks ago, the Gingrich campaign was apparently unable to name 40 New Hampshire supporters of his presidential campaign.

Candidates needed to file their slates of 20 delegates to the National Convention, along with 20 alternates, with the Secretary of State by November 18. The Gingrich campaign filed a partial slate of 14 delegates and 13 alternates, leaving 13 slots vacant. Among the 27 names Gingrich listed are three members of his staff.

Rick Santorum (12 delegates and 12 alternates) and Michele Bachmann (18 delegates) also filed partial slates. Gary Johnson (10 delegates and one alternate) and Buddy Roemer (eight delegates) also had incomplete filings.

In contrast, Herman Cain, Jon Huntsman, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, and Mitt Romney all filed full slates of 40 people.

No doubt Gingrich would be able to identify 40 committed supporters this week, in the wake of his endorsement by the New Hampshire Union Leader and riding a wave of interest in his candidacy. But the campaign's failure to do so just nine days prior to the paper's endorsement is an indicator of the extent to which the campaign is starting from scratch - and could signal a lack of basic organization. Filing a slate of delegates isn't complicated, but it does require advance planning, as each delegate or alternate needs to sign his or her own form. It's not the sort of thing that can be left to the last minute.

This is the sort of thing that shouldn't slip through the cracks. And it reinforces one of the major criticisms that has dogged Gingrich since he came to Congress in 1979; details don't concern him. He is very good at conceptualizing but takes no interest in how anything gets done.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; details; executive; gingrich2012; hermancain; support

1 posted on 12/02/2011 12:05:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

don’t forget the campign did not make it on the Feb 7 “beauty primany” in missiour...


2 posted on 12/02/2011 12:18:30 AM PST by Paul8148
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A full slate of delegates is rather meaningless in the broad scope of things. If the one of the lesser candidates gets to the convention and is this number of delegates short, it will be a brokered convention anyway which is unlikely. By Super Tuesday, this thing will be settled. President Santorum, here we go.


3 posted on 12/02/2011 12:19:08 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
President Santorum, here we go.

Ewww :(
4 posted on 12/02/2011 12:41:27 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The gist of the column is that Newt spouts out a myriad of ideas (like throwing pasta against a wall) but he isn’t a “roll up your sleeves and work until the job is done” executive. And as we’ve all watched, along the way Newt is always helping himself to the staff and looking to his financial pay-off down the road and around the corner.


5 posted on 12/02/2011 12:46:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And don’t forget he is an AlBORE nut on global warming.


6 posted on 12/02/2011 1:23:24 AM PST by GailA (Any congress critter or president who FAILS to keep faith with the Military, WON'T keep faith with U)
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To: GailA

Yes. Newt really isn’t a deep thinker, he latches onto ideas (most are off the wall), flitting from one to another. He talks confidently (often insultingly) like he knows what he’s saying and that others don’t have a clue.


7 posted on 12/02/2011 1:30:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Has anyone ever told you that you have a really ugly outlook on life - there are many things you can say against Gingrich without the judgmental, derisive, snide tone you use. I’m not really angry at you for saying nasty things about my candidate, or any candidate you don’t support - I’ve read many of your nasty posts - I just really feel sorry for someone as eaten up by bitterness as you are. This place really stinks sometime.

There are young people - I know a lot of them - many in the military - who I often recommend to join or check out this site - for comprehensive political information. They are just beginning to get interested in politics - and not one of them has every stayed - they are full of energy and vigor and believe in true conservatism - but this board is becoming a hangout for a lot of old angry people... it’s just sad, sad like you.


8 posted on 12/02/2011 1:39:45 AM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: true believer forever

Thanks for your comment. I gather from your “old angry people” comment that you are young.

It’s a fact of life “tbf” that people are judged by their behavior.

You didn’t respond by posting about your differing perspective, reasons for supporting your candidate, or give information and links to support those positions, but rather attacked me personally. I’ve been a fair poster on FR for a long time. Newt is not what our country needs, he’s up in the polls and it is the primary. He will be vetted.

Grow up.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 1:56:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Of course not, because I was responding to your post, which didn't include any of things... exactly my point. Had you put anything in your post about perspective, policy, poisitions, yada yada, I would have responded to that as specifically as I could. I was responding to your trash talk. YOUR trash talk, not mine. You don't have to be old to be grown up.
10 posted on 12/02/2011 2:03:52 AM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: true believer forever

There are young people - I know a lot of them - many in the military - who I often recommend to join or check out this site - for comprehensive political information. They are just beginning to get interested in politics - and not one of them has every stayed - they are full of energy and vigor and believe in true conservatism - but this board is becoming “a hangout for a lot of old angry people...” it’s just sad, sad like you.

Bingo.


11 posted on 12/02/2011 2:06:59 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: All

Typo on author’s name:

Correction: Rick Moran


12 posted on 12/02/2011 2:12:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: true believer forever

What did I say that was “trash talk?” I have not attacked you.

You seem fixated on the messenger and not concerned about the truth of what I said.

Do you think the Dems are going to let Newt float?

If you want to debate, let’s do it — the topic is the GOP Primary and Newt’s suitability to be nominated and carry the conservative banner.

I didn’t realize FR had become a “If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything” site.


13 posted on 12/02/2011 2:18:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...What did I say that was “trash talk?” I have not attacked you.

...trash talk = You said, "And as we’ve all watched, along the way Newt is always helping himself to the staff and looking to his financial pay-off down the road and around the corner."

...You seem fixated on the messenger and not concerned about the truth of what I said.

If you had posted links and sources that verified the source of your opinions I would have responded to those links, their veracity, sources, etc. You just threw out your opinions, which are not fact.

... Do you think the Dems are going to let Newt float?

I don't think the dems, the media or barack obama are going to let any of our candidates float... Not one.

...If you want to debate, let’s do it — the topic is the GOP Primary and Newt’s suitability to be nominated and carry the conservative banner.

That isn't a debate, that's a subjective discussion - for every endorsement or article or statement you can provide that declares Newt is unsuitable - I can produce one that says he is. It's opinion, and beauty in the eye of the beholder.

... I didn’t realize FR had become a “If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything” site.

If it were, I doubt we'd be having this discussion, and you'd be on the bench.

It's pretty obvious what you believe about Newt. What I believe - in my heart - by faith and evidence that satisfies me - is he is a different person than he was those years ago. He has sought God's forgiveness, he has practiced the personal sacrament of reconciliation with his family, and has tried to put his past behind him - and many people naturally won't allow him to do that. Especially the ones who don't believe sinners can be saved by grace, and transformed into new creatures by the miracle working power of Christ's Holy Spirit. If my Christian references offend you, I sincerely apologize.

by the way, what does "tbf" stand for?

14 posted on 12/02/2011 3:35:58 AM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: true believer forever

“Has anyone ever told you that you have a really ugly outlook on life”

Phrasing it as a question doesn’t change this from being a personal attack.


15 posted on 12/02/2011 3:43:17 AM PST by csivils
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Please, I like Rick and Newt and I see no point in trashing either one of them.I do believe you are doing more harm than good with your daily anti-anybody but Perry post.


16 posted on 12/02/2011 3:46:29 AM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: csivils

You’re right. I never looked at it that way. I could have talked about the content of the many posts which I considered nasty, but you’re right, that was a personal attack... I just get angry and upset sometimes by all the vitriol in this forum... and my candidate is Newt, so I get quite my fair share of it... and sometimes I take it personally... I will apologize to that Cincinatus person...


17 posted on 12/02/2011 3:49:45 AM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I want to apologize for accusing you of having an ugly outlook on life... I should have kept my post directed only to the nasty and negative content of your posts, which would have been the correct thing to do. Again, please accept my apology... thank you.


18 posted on 12/02/2011 3:52:41 AM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: true believer forever

It has been a rough primary, but just remind yourself that things could always be worse... For example, I was rooting for Cain :(


19 posted on 12/02/2011 3:53:03 AM PST by csivils
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To: csivils

oh, no, no, no... don’t give up on Cain... he has to do what is right for him... and I hope he will stay in. we can’t let the media do this... we can’t give them the power to choose our candidates; they have learned if they dirty anybody up - and if they do it long enough - they will leave the race. I hope Herman understands that, but I fear his family wont, and I understand that, too. If he leaves the race, we might as well just let the media take a poll, and let us know who they want for our candidate - and do with that... it would save a lot of money, work and tears... we can’t let it happen.


20 posted on 12/02/2011 3:59:21 AM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
. He talks confidently

Absolutely true. He fools the rubes into thinking he's smart just by being over-the-top arrogant and condescending. The problem is he uses the same tone when he's clearly dead wrong. I can't stand the guy.

21 posted on 12/02/2011 4:17:37 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: true believer forever
What I believe - in my heart - by faith and evidence that satisfies me - is he is a different person than he was those years ago. He has sought God's forgiveness

LOL! Sucker.

22 posted on 12/02/2011 4:20:08 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So technically, since we are including polls nowadays long before the actual voter or caucus goer speaks as opposed to the old days of true "delegate totals" by the three networks and papers, we can also throw into the mix "delegate slates" registered, in this case, in the pivotal state of NH.

And in that sense, Herman Cain, who is still in the race, is therefore ahead of both Gingrich, Santorum and Bachmann in the state, as he filed a FULL SLATE OF DELEGATES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.

23 posted on 12/02/2011 4:21:33 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Cain: 1st Victim of 2012 Obama Camp's Smear Machine's PROOF OF CONCEPT Effort. Did You Assist Them?)
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To: true believer forever
There are young people - I know a lot of them - many in the military - who I often recommend to join or check out this site - for comprehensive political information. They are just beginning to get interested in politics - and not one of them has every stayed - they are full of energy and vigor and believe in true conservatism - but this board is becoming a hangout for a lot of old angry people... it’s just sad, sad like you.

Really? I've been a squad Mom since 2003 and I find that most miliary LOVE Rick Perry and they wouldn't find CW "sad" or "mean" at all. I think perhaps hou have so much hatred in your heart that ytou read things as being "mean".

24 posted on 12/02/2011 4:33:00 AM PST by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: true believer forever
don’t give up on Cain... he has to do what is right for him... and I hope he will stay in. we can’t let the media do this...

I don't like the MSM but Cain is not a victim of the media. He is in the mess he's in because of his own poor judgment.

We complain that the media doesn't report the information we need on Obama,so can you HONESTLY complain that they report what seems to be the TRUTH on Cain or any other GOP candidates?

Cain got caught with his pants down. He doesn't seem to have good judgment in the women he gets mixed up with...losers with money problems.

How can Cain blame the media with "Character assasination" when he knew these women were in his past. How stupid was he that he didn't think they would come out?

If Cain stays in the race, I wouldn't be surprised if more don't step forward.

I wish he would just go away.

25 posted on 12/02/2011 4:34:35 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

-——I wish he would just go away.——

Well lonestar.....you have been properly duped.

Rahm and the presstitutes occupy your mind


26 posted on 12/02/2011 4:41:54 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: bert
Rahm and the presstitutes occupy your mind

If the shoe fits...

Better now than later. There seems to be more fact than fiction in what is being reported.

27 posted on 12/02/2011 4:56:38 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: true believer forever; Cincinatus' Wife

Wow.

You sound angrier and more bitter in your attack on her than she ever sounded.

There’s much to critique with some of those who go from thread to thread in a great numbers to attack this lady any time she dares post anything pro Perry or a criticism of Cain or Newt.

She has the right to post articles here and comment upon them. Those with the worst possible responses might be the ones you should focus on, rather than her going about the business of what is supposed to be going on here, and going about it under tremendous pressure and fire with more aplomb and poise and patience than most human beings could muster.

She doesn’t think Newt is what America needs and makes no pretense otherwise. But I have seen nothing to warrant the type of attack you levelled nor the specifics you accused her of.

I see now that you have apologized for it, to a considerable extent, and for that I commend you.


28 posted on 12/02/2011 6:36:31 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Its beginning to look a lot like Newt. I urge everyone to keep your eye on the prize. Which is getting that Muzzie loving Commie out of the White House and out of our lives. Any of the announced GOP candidates would be 1000% better than BHO. Nobody on this thread really wants Mitt Romney so if Newt is beating him then good on Newt. Newt will annihilate Obama.

At this point some 33 days til the Iowa Caucus anybody polling at 3%-7% just isn’t going to win so its time to face the facts. Its Newt or Mitt.


29 posted on 12/02/2011 8:56:16 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Cincinatus' Wife

His taking many millions from Fannie and Freddie is a bad thing.

That to me is a symptom, however, and not the disease itself.

Do you understand what the disease is, and that is, as Mark Levin so well points out, STATISM?

Fannie and Freddie had no constitutional or common sense reason for even existing, but because they were there and dangled money (which they didn’t even have as we learned and fell back on the taxpayers and borrowing), Newt took it.

This is the overhelming Federal Statism that the Tea Party has fought tooth and nail.

Perry has profoundly fought it.

A month can be, and often has been, a long time in politics, anything can and often does happen in that period.

Whether it does this time or doesn’t, you won’t find me covering up for Newt. I’ve already been virtually ordered to shut up and cover up for Cain, and was certainly told to shut up over Palin, simply for supporting someone else when she wasn’t even running.

Didn’t work then, won’t work on me now.

I can speak this much for CW...won’t work on her, either.


30 posted on 12/02/2011 9:14:51 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

“Fannie and Freddie had no constitutional or common sense reason for even existing, but because they were there and dangled money (which they didn’t even have as we learned and fell back on the taxpayers and borrowing), Newt took it.”

Newt Gingrich charged consulting fees totally in line with the norm as a private consultant for Fannie and Freddie and many other well known clients. As he explained on Hannity the other night his consultant contract which both he and the client have to sign explicitly states that he cannot do any type of lobbying for them. If there was any truth to these lobbying rumors the MSM would be shouting it from the rooftops in every news cycle.


31 posted on 12/02/2011 9:31:05 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: true believer forever

Thanks for your post and sanity on this thread. I didn’t read ALL the comments but I was quickly repulsed at how negative, backstabbing and snarky other comments were to some GOP candidates and to some fellow FReepers.

The article this thread references is stupid and possibly written by a DU’er, or at least by a Gingrich-hater, to make him look bad, and create derision.

But Gingrich does not feel he can win ALL the delegates in NH (the state in Romney’s back yard where he sometimes visits to vacation in one of his mansions). Plus NH had its delegate count cut in half because it moved its primary earlier. So there is absolutely no need for Gingrich to have named MORE delegates there than he did.

Same thing for the other candidates who could honestly gauge the MAXIMUM number of delegates in NH that they might win.

The Dem’s can have the most glaring repulsive flaws that are ignored, but GOP’ers are nitpicked to death over stupid imaginary issues like this. Its just amazing.

I only addressed this to you because I have no interest in arguing with the surprising number of bitter folks here whose candidate is not in the lead. The rest of you on this thread: please do not reply to me.


32 posted on 12/02/2011 12:07:52 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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