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Herman Cain to meet with wife as Ginger White apologizes
LA Times ^ | 12/02/2011 | James Oliphant

Posted on 12/02/2011 8:52:20 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Herman Cain has a critical summit meeting Friday with a house leader. His house.

Cain is decamping back to Georgia for a sit-down with wife Gloria over the subject of Ginger White, the Atlanta woman who claims she was Cain’s mistress for over a decade, and he said the two will discuss the future of his struggling presidential campaign.

Cain is slated to open his national campaign headquarters in Atlanta on Saturday and, at least as of now, is expected to go through with it. But the lease had better be month-to-month.

White, appearing on MSNBC Thursday night, apologized to Gloria Cain and Cain’s children. (Watch video below.)

"I am not a cold-hearted person. I am a mother of two kids. And of course my heart bleeds for this woman because I am a woman and being in a situation like this cannot be fun," she said. "And I am deeply, deeply sorry if I have caused any hurt to her and to his kids, to his family. That was not my intention. I never wanted to hurt anyone and I'm deeply sorry. I am very sorry.”

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To: kevao

So if He sees what you are going to do, and cannot be wrong, you can’t do anything but that, can you? You can’t change your mind and Him not know it, can you? If He knew what Jeffrey Dahmer was going to do, why even breath life into him? Why let his victims suffer like they did?


101 posted on 12/02/2011 10:29:28 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: tjd1454

I’m not your friend, but you knew that just as Ginger White knows her words are hollow.


102 posted on 12/02/2011 10:29:53 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

It wouldn’t surprise me. :)


103 posted on 12/02/2011 10:30:20 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lonevoice

LOL!


104 posted on 12/02/2011 10:33:18 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tjd1454

Whoremonger, adulterer, family wrecker, player?


105 posted on 12/02/2011 10:33:33 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: BagCamAddict
That could have been...

Yes, the texts could have added up as you suggest, but we don't know that.

Any way you parse these phone contacts, it doesn't quite pass the smell test IMHO.

And what about those middle of the night contacts? To me it indicates that the woman assumed a level of intimacy with a man that one would only have with a husband or brother - or someone she had had a sexual relationship with.

106 posted on 12/02/2011 10:37:23 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: reg45

True, I believe completely in the concept of free will, I just don’t believe free will itself really exists. We have to believe we have it, in order to enact laws and form working societies.


107 posted on 12/02/2011 10:37:31 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr
whoremonger, adulterer, family wrecker, player?

Just the kind of person Cain should be associating with. Again, what does that say about him?

108 posted on 12/02/2011 10:43:09 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454
I'm not saying the sex didn't happen. In fact, I believe it probably did.

But like with Clinton, it's not the sex that I personally care about. I care that Cain has now gone on record to say the sex did not happen.

I don't think it can every be proven, one way or the other, without a blue dress. But if a Love Child appears (either from Ginger White or from anyone else) then that's proof. It's the possibility that he lied that bothers me.

And I don't consider him lying to have not told his wife about this woman or the financial support. I don't talk about every relationship I have with people, especially if I think it might cause unnecessary worry or suspicion on my spouse's part. Note I said unnecessary worry or suspicion — meaning, there is nothing to worry about, there is no affair going on, no reason to be upset, but human nature might cause a person to be suspicious merely because the other person is “your type” or is “attractive” or is “overly flirty” etc.

But if he had a sexual affair, then he lied to his wife and family, and he has now lied to all of us. That's a tough one.

So I am anxiously awaiting the outcome of this weekend, his pow-wow with his family, and anything Lin Wood comes up with over the next few weeks.

109 posted on 12/02/2011 10:46:55 AM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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To: tjd1454

If true, then that’s the kind of person he is.


110 posted on 12/02/2011 10:47:05 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: varina davis
Ginger White rings absolutely true in this video interview. Wasn’t totally sure before and now I am.


111 posted on 12/02/2011 10:47:20 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: varina davis

“It says, in no uncertain terms, that Rick Perry should be our next president.”

Yeah, just as soon as he climbs above 10% in the polls....

Sorry pal, Cain may soon join the ranks of the “Also Ran,” but Perry is standing at the door performing his duties as the delagation’s welcoming committee........

Perry could rebound....strange things do happen in politics, but usually not that strange! So I wouldn’t hold my breath.


112 posted on 12/02/2011 10:52:34 AM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: wolfcreek

My father gives money to all kinds of people without telling my mother. He’s a completely upstanding, generous Christian man. They are from an older generation.


113 posted on 12/02/2011 10:59:38 AM PST by Politicalmom
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To: BagCamAddict
But if he had a sexual affair, then he lied to his wife and family, and he has now lied to all of us. That's a tough one.

So I am anxiously awaiting the outcome of this weekend, his pow-wow with his family, and anything Lin Wood comes up with over the next few weeks.

Agreed. If the allegations are true, there should be details that could be collaborated. Does White have nothing - no souvenirs, notes, ticket stubs, photos, hotel bills etc., of her alleged trips with Cain? Surely she could request old credit card statements (I have done that). Could her sister publicly verify that she took care of White's children while she flew off to be with Cain?

It makes one wonder if the MSM is holding off of giving Cain the Sarah Palin treatment because A: the damage has pretty much been done, and B: should Cain hold on, further details and confirmations can always be exploited later in the general should he gain the nomination.

114 posted on 12/02/2011 11:01:39 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: Responsibility2nd

https://twitter.com/#!/NBCNews/status/142673907877552128

Herman Cain campaign says they will be making a “major announcement” in Georgia tomorrow.
— — —
The Fat Lady is clearing her throat, and preparing to run some scales before the aria.


115 posted on 12/02/2011 11:02:28 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: tjd1454

Wow, they talked 10 whole times?

And how many of those 200 messages were FROM Herman?


116 posted on 12/02/2011 11:07:10 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Coldwater Creek

In the interview, Ginger, with the obvious help of the interviewer, make it clear that some Atlanta paper was going forward with the story whether she cooperated or not. One of her friends, whom she must have told, ‘leaked’ the story and it was coming out.

I find it very hard to believe there is no documentation to back up her story. Nothing? Really? No pictures? No receipts? (sorry) No unique physical features? Nothing?

That said, as someone who very much liked Mr. Cain, I don’t think Ginger can just be washed away. Mr. Cain is going to have a radically uncomfortable converstaion with the Mrs. My guess is his entire world is about to come undone. Very, very sad.


117 posted on 12/02/2011 11:07:48 AM PST by mad puppy (Spare me your line of crap...I'm voting for Newt.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Not looking for a religious debate, and this may not be the correct answer to that age old question, but.....

I’ve told my boys as they were growing up and even now when they need reminding - Even though you have free will, God has a plan for you - so you can make bad choices and end up on the hard road, or you can make good choices and end up on the easier road - but bottom line is, you will end up where He wants you to be, it’s just how you get there that’s your choice.


118 posted on 12/02/2011 11:12:23 AM PST by Grumpybutt (When it gets too much, turn it all off and turn to God - for only HE has the real plan.)
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To: Politicalmom
My father gives money to all kinds of people without telling my mother. He’s a completely upstanding, generous Christian man. They are from an older generation.

That's commendable. I'm certain that as a Christian gentleman he also takes care to obey the biblical injunction to "be above reproach." That includes any behavior which would appear to be suspicious, such as hiding a 13-year relationship with a woman which involved money and middle-of-the-night calls/texts. "Upstanding" Christian men do not do such things.

The evangelist Billy Graham took great care not to be seen as having any kind of relationship with any woman other than his wife. He would certainly not travel alone with a woman, or even be seen privately with another woman. There was never a hint of scandal associated with him. Similarly, my godly childhood pastor would not counsel a woman alone in his office - the door was always cracked open and his secretary was right next door.

That is how godly Christian men behave, as I am sure your father would affirm.

119 posted on 12/02/2011 11:19:34 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Ever have an original thought?


120 posted on 12/02/2011 11:23:05 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: autumnraine
Wow, they talked 10 whole times? And how many of those 200 messages were FROM Herman?

"Don't worry honey - I was only TEXTING that other woman in the middle of the night! - and by the way, SHE did a lot of them!"

121 posted on 12/02/2011 11:24:20 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: Doctor 2Brains
Ever have an original thought?

I have no idea who you are or where you stand on this issue, but your smug ad hominem putdown is offensive and unworthy of this forum. At least show that you are capable of engaging the argument instead of merely attacking your opponent.

122 posted on 12/02/2011 11:29:27 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: Responsibility2nd

grammy used to tell us:

“lie down with dogs get up with fleas”

herman, its over man.


123 posted on 12/02/2011 11:30:08 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: tjd1454

I have no idea who you are or where you stand on this issue, but your smug ad hominem putdown is offensive and unworthy of this forum. At least show that you are capable of engaging the argument instead of merely attacking your opponent.


124 posted on 12/02/2011 11:31:51 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: BagCamAddict
If it’s true, then it says he’s a John. It says he’s just like at least 50% of the men out there. Believe me, fidelity is pretty darn uncommon.

I have had the opportunity to research and write concerning this subject (albeit some years ago). As surprising as it may seem, according to a number of surveys the percentage of men who remain faithful to their wives throughout their marriage is consistently in the 70-80% range. True, some of these same men get divorced and marry someone else, which others call serial adultery...

125 posted on 12/02/2011 11:38:14 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454
If the allegations are true, there should be details that could be collaborated. Does White have nothing - no souvenirs, notes, ticket stubs, photos, hotel bills etc., of her alleged trips with Cain? Surely she could request old credit card statements (I have done that). Could her sister publicly verify that she took care of White's children while she flew off to be with Cain?

She says there is none of that. None. How likely is that? She says the money was always in cash - so that could never be proven. Yet Cain admits to giving her money. If he had so much to hide, why would he admit to giving her money if there was no way she could prove it with canceled checks or anything else?

I agree with you: If there is proof that shows guilt by Cain, then the MSM and the Lynching Team will certainly bring it up if Cain were to get the nomination. They are terrified of Cain vs. Obama.

On the other hand, if there is proof that Cain is innocent, then I hope to God that Lin Wood will rain fire down upon that woman and anyone else involved in the matter.

The next couple days will be a hurdle. Then we'll see what happens next. If he stays in the race, expect his enemies to double-down on the Lynching. There will be no stopping until he is gone, for good.

126 posted on 12/02/2011 11:50:05 AM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I just watched the video, and it pains me to say I think she’s absolutely telling the truth.


127 posted on 12/02/2011 12:13:38 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: tjd1454

I know the stats you’re referring to. So 20-30% ADMIT they have cheated. What percentage have cheated but don’t admit to it?

Ask any woman if she has had an abortion. Almost every single woman will say no.

Yet abortions are happening every day.

If 20-30% admit to being unfaithful, I would bet money it’s 50% who are actually unfaithful. My best friend’s DAD told me he had cheated on my friend’s mother. I asked my friend, “Do you think your Dad has ever cheated on your Mom?” He emphatically said “No way.” But I knew different, from the Dad’s own mouth. (Of course there was no way I was going to hurt my friend by telling him about his Dad’s affair. I learned long ago — confessions only make the sinner feel better. Confessions hurt the one who is hearing the confession. If you cheat, you damn well better keep it to yourself, and live with your own guilt, rather than putting it on your spouse out of some twisted need to “tell the truth.”)


128 posted on 12/02/2011 12:41:16 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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To: mad puppy
Yes! it is very sad for all concerned, Mr. Cain, Mrs. Cain, their children, Ms White and all of us who had such high hopes for Herman Cain.
129 posted on 12/02/2011 1:01:55 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: BagCamAddict

The sex doesn’t matter. And the lying about it to us can even be forgiven. Why? Because we don’t have choir boys (except mitt? But he has plenty of other baggage) running for the presidency this time, if ever.

You will get, as your President, possibly a man who has cheated on his wife. Most probably, without Cain in the race, you will get a President who needs a “body man” all the time, and whose previous affair has signed an affidavit and described every detail of his gay romps with the then state Senator, including the crack cocaine our President purchased to smoke while his date “smoked him.”.

So choose your candidate carefully.


130 posted on 12/02/2011 1:14:04 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Politicalmom

I’m 54 and my Wife would shoot me.

Sorry but, that’s not right IMO


131 posted on 12/02/2011 1:21:27 PM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: BagCamAddict
Let's hope you're not right about the stats. BTW you could ask my children the same question and get the same answer: "No way!"

And thanks be to God it would be true.

132 posted on 12/02/2011 1:34:13 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course that also means the reality is that the media can still pick our candidate. We’re suckers. We always will be. We should have the chance to choose or not choose Cain (or anyone else for that matter) based on issues NOT media. This whole thing makes me sick. Not just for Cain and his family but for us. We’ll never learn. Can’t wait to see what happens to our eventual nominee. It’ll work then too. Anyone but 0bama? Hardly.

Cindie


133 posted on 12/02/2011 1:51:55 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: BagCamAddict

“Hormones are amazing, aren’t they?”

Agreed. Many people are held hostage by hormones...just watch the TV ads.


134 posted on 12/02/2011 2:34:29 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: RavenATB

Ms White proves Serpent-head’s assertion about “dragging a hundred-dollar bill thru a trailer park...”

George Soros has plenty of $100’s and there are an abundance of sleezy RAT women eager to lie for a fistful of ‘em.


135 posted on 12/02/2011 2:48:23 PM PST by Zman516
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To: mad puppy

Why hasn’t the Atlanta paper come out with that story? Who is the friend? Should we simply accept Ginger’s word for it? If the friend went to the press where is she and why wouldn’t she talk now?

If her foster mother, ex husband and ex business partner say she’s a compulsive liar why are we supposed to believe her now without a shred of proof?

Since we now know the majority of the texts are from her and we know she had stalking charges against her (using text, email & phone calls) why are we to assume she’s telling the truth this time? If the texts exist why can’t we see them?

If she was sued for libel and her ex business partner won why are we to assume she’s suddenly being pure and honest now? If none of the people close to her have come forward to support her allegations (and her ex business partner who she saw daily says she never heard anything) why are we supposed to believe her?

Why are we only asking questions about Cain and not her? The press has done NO investigation into her background. Why have they done nothing to check out her story? Were her & Cain really at the boxing match? There were cameras everywhere. He flew her all over the place and they stayed at some pretty ritzy hotels according to her...what about records of at least HIS stay? How about little gifts & Cards? After 13-14 years there has to be something.

Why doesn’t someone ask why she originally said 13 years “on & off” and then after it was discovered the fight was 14 years ago it became 13-14 years “on & off”?

Why has there been no attempt to talk to people around her? An interview with the reporter who said they were going to go forward with the story? This could possibly be a reporter’s “big break” why isn’t this person all over the news shouting to the rooftops about his/her great journalistic discovery?

If all this were true, if she really weren’t a mean person why wouldn’t she simply tell the reporter “we’re just friends, he helped me out when I was struggling, that’s all there is to it, my friend doesn’t know what he/she is talking about”?

Even if she doesn’t give a rat’s butt about Cain and his family she also has 2 children...whether this is true or not they’ll forever be wallowing in her mess.

Why do we demand less of questionable accusers and the press than we should? If he’s telling the truth (and considering the lack of evidence on her part, I don’t see how one can believe her) where does he go to get his name and life back? How does his family recover?

This is the exact thing that was done to Sarah Palin and we still put the burden of proof on the person who has to prove he “stopped beating his wife”.

There are people who will always believe Trig is Todd & Bristol’s baby. There are always people who will think Herman Cain is a big, black womanizer (like Clarence Thomas). And most probably his real crime is being conservative while black. I wish we were better than this but I guess we’re not.

I like Cain and would vote for him but even if he could never be the nominee with or without these allegations, I’d really like the chance to choose our candidate based on factors important to running the country. They took Bachmann down really quickly...a couple faux pas saturated by press coverage and she’s done. Perry? Bad debate performances and half truths about some of his positions...the “dumb Texan meme”. Cain? It’s taken a little longer and a lot more work to bring him down.

We’re left with Newt & Romney. If you think the left and the press (but I repeat myself) aren’t preparing for either one of those in the general we’re fooling ourselves. This election is going to be vicious & ugly. They’re just warming up, testing the waters to see how deep they have to fill the pool before they drown our candidate. So far they must feel pretty good about it.

Cindie


136 posted on 12/02/2011 2:49:17 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: tjd1454

Good job. And it’s great that your kids know it without a doubt.

Hopefully your wife does too? So if she does know, without a doubt that you have been faithful, have you asked her this:

“If you found out today that I have been financially assisting a woman for a couple years, because she is without a job and she has two young kids, would you conclude I am sleeping with her?”

It might be an interesting thing to ask wives, coming from men who have been faithful, and coming from men who have not been faithful.

You could test my theory about adultery stats by asking the next 20 women you see on the street... random strangers...

“We are conducting an anonymous survey with two questions:
(1) Have you ever had an abortion?
(2) Have you ever cheated on someone you were in a monogamous relationship with?”

When you get 20 out of 20 who say they have not had an abortion, you’ll see what I mean. Abortion is not something to be proud of or admit... neither is cheating on a spouse, but cheating is commonplace enough that 20-30% of people admit to it. Surely there are a certain percentage who don’t admit it. Surely not everyone is willing to tell the world they have committed a sin like that. So some will admit it (probably the Liberals), and some won’t admit it. I’d like to see a statistic on cheaters that also includes political leaning... Conservative vs. Liberal.

FYI, abortion stats from one random website: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/uslifetimeab.html

Summary: It is estimated here that, as of 2008, about 28% of U.S. women ages 15-64 have had abortions. This figure has risen from 2.8% in 1973 to 11% in 1980, 19% in 1987, 24% in 1994, and 27% in 2001. In 2008, of women ages 40-55, about 40% have had abortions in their lifetimes


137 posted on 12/02/2011 4:57:55 PM PST by BagCamAddict (If we let them run Cain out of town, they will do it to EVERY GOP candidate from now on.)
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To: lonevoice

Gay


138 posted on 12/02/2011 7:04:47 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: trisham

That’s nothing


139 posted on 12/02/2011 7:08:13 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You Prolly has a PhD in wymins studies!


140 posted on 12/02/2011 7:09:10 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: gardencatz

Excellent post # 136, Cindie—well worth the read.


141 posted on 12/02/2011 7:26:37 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: BagCamAddict

I think Herman Cain was tossed into the race as a GOP doppleganger of BO.

Cain doesn’t want to be CIC nor is he qualified to be such. Ergo, the lightening rods to expel him...Ginger White is his ally and friend in this...his wife knows and probably has known about his dalliances. It’s their business!

Cain is a red herring for the GOP. Let’s move on. The man, Mr. Herman Cain, just wants out of this race.......as does his family. Ergo, Ginger White....and others appear. Wake up!


142 posted on 12/02/2011 8:47:29 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JouleZ

I think HC entered the race because he love the country and KNOWS he can do a better job than the current POTUS


143 posted on 12/03/2011 8:11:36 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: BagCamAddict
Thank you for your comments and for your concern for the unborn. Let us pray that the Republican Party remains firm in our commitment to the "social issues" - including the right to life.

The bumper sticker: "Choose life - your mother did!" says it all.

Blessings.

144 posted on 12/03/2011 9:02:32 AM PST by tjd1454
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