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Pastors charged after telling 'gays' about sin (facing bench trial in court run by lesbian)
WorldnetDaily ^ | 12/02/2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/02/2011 10:00:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Two veteran street preachers in Houston are facing a bench trial for spreading the biblical message about homosexuality – and other sins – on one of their favorite corners for preaching in Houston.

That the message was direct is obvious, from a photo of the situation that developed for David Stokes of BulldogMinistries.com and Dave Allen of HornofSamuelBook.com:



Their sign warns those who are "Drunks, homosexuals, abortionist, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists, witches, idolators" that "Hell awaits you."

Their hearing will be in Houston Municipal Court, which is run by Barbara E. Hartle, who, according to the Dallas Voice, is listed by the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund as "one of only a few out members of the Texas judiciary."

She was appointed to the position by Houston Mayor Annise Parker, identified by the Los Angeles Times as "the first lesbian to head a major American city."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: anniseparker; gay; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; houston; mayor; pastor

1 posted on 12/02/2011 10:01:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Will the fornicators also sue?


2 posted on 12/02/2011 10:03:54 AM PST by oldbill
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To: SeekAndFind

If the Judge follows the US Constitution, her personal choices should not matter. We shall see.


3 posted on 12/02/2011 10:04:42 AM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: SeekAndFind

WTF? So the OWS protestors doing drugs, raping women, shietting on cop cars is considered “freedom of speech” but a Pastor preaching is not? Is Nancy Pelosi running that town now?


4 posted on 12/02/2011 10:10:28 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Nancy Pelosi - The #1 reason why we need a Constitutional amendment for Congressional drug testing.)
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To: JLS

But occupy is allowed to stay...


5 posted on 12/02/2011 10:11:16 AM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess the President could press his case against the ministers after looking at the list.


6 posted on 12/02/2011 10:14:11 AM PST by JIM O
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To: SeekAndFind

...coming to a church near you. Homosexuality will bring in the persecution of the church.


7 posted on 12/02/2011 10:17:05 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: SeekAndFind

As has been stated many times on this forum:

So-called “gay rights” is a direct assault on the First Amendment. That these preachers are even being taken to a kangaroo court should send a chill down the spine of all Americans who care about the Constitution.


8 posted on 12/02/2011 10:17:44 AM PST by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: JLS

in your life you’ve found that libs follow the law before ideology?

obviously, this will be a religion versus progressive and the progressive will push the attack and punish the preachers.

i’m still trying to understand how this isn’t freedom of speech


9 posted on 12/02/2011 10:20:02 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SeekAndFind

Homosexuality is just partner assisted masturbation. Homosexuals are the most self-centered, self-serving and self-aggrandizing group the world has ever seen.


10 posted on 12/02/2011 10:20:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought this story was going to be about some jurisdiction in England.

All I can say is: WOW!


11 posted on 12/02/2011 10:22:29 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SeekAndFind

And I am sure we can all count on WND to accurately state what the arrest was for!

LOL!!!!


12 posted on 12/02/2011 10:23:05 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Not enough information on the trial.

If these guys get a jury, not a chance they will be convicted, and the stupid cops have alienated more of the support they will eventually desperately need.

13 posted on 12/02/2011 10:23:17 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: thesaleboat

Good to see the the police are equal opportunity oppressors as they are equally brutal on these protestors in Houston as well as OWS and Pro Life protestors.


14 posted on 12/02/2011 10:24:57 AM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: SeekAndFind

Witches? What if you are a good witch?


15 posted on 12/02/2011 10:26:35 AM PST by fhayek
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To: SeekAndFind
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, The Holy Bible

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
;...
or abridging the freedom of speech..., or of the press;
or the right of the people peaceably to assemble
, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

16 posted on 12/02/2011 10:27:25 AM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Homosexuality is an acute form of malignant narcisism.


17 posted on 12/02/2011 10:31:00 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a crock.

We’ll see what the outcome is tho it will be argued that it was not the content of their speech but the thickness of their signs...

yeah right...I’d be back there the next day...


18 posted on 12/02/2011 10:39:03 AM PST by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: SeekAndFind
Where was that picture taken?

Looks like private property, not public property?

Maybe a mirror would be the appropriate response?

19 posted on 12/02/2011 10:40:02 AM PST by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: JLS; All

A Houston TV news site stated the bench trial was supposed to be on Nov. 17. Was WND being sensationalist again? What was the results of the trial?


20 posted on 12/02/2011 10:41:00 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: blueunicorn6

I absolutely agree with you and I say that because my oldest daughter has chosen to live as a lesbian and one of my brothers is a homoseexual and I have seen the narcissism up close.


21 posted on 12/02/2011 10:52:55 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: allmendream

Exactly.


22 posted on 12/02/2011 11:02:44 AM PST by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a bible verse, guys.

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

1 Cor 6:9-10, King James Version.

Some hold differences with the translation, but that’s what it says.


23 posted on 12/02/2011 11:04:08 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: fhayek

Scripture makes little distinction between “good witches” and “bad witches”. It’s not based on Satanism, but on going to anyone but God for supernatural aid.


24 posted on 12/02/2011 11:06:51 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Wiser now

I agree with you. IMHO, homosexuality is a sexual dysfunction, and closely tied with self-image problems. So many of them are narcissists and exhibitionists. Of course, they don’t see it.

When you see them running around half naked, being flamboyant, and jumping on one another in public, many of them somehow think they are doing what “straights” do - because their thinking about sexuality is deranged. Many of them don’t have any idea how they are viewed by normal folk.


25 posted on 12/02/2011 11:13:00 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: blueunicorn6

All of the sexual “acts against nature” — including homosexual sex, contracepted sex, and all of the perversions— are partner-assisted masturbation. Thank you for supplying me with the appropriate phrase.


26 posted on 12/02/2011 11:18:15 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory. there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra)
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To: SeekAndFind

I do believe that this is far less incendiary than the infamous Fred Phelps / Westboro Baptist Church “free speech” which was ruled within the First Amendment.


28 posted on 12/02/2011 11:37:46 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: I still care
"Abusers of themselves with mankind" is a circumlocution for what is one word in the Greek: arsenokoitai. It is a rare word--Liddell & Scott cite only the passage in I Cor. and the Palatine Anthology (9.686)--there is it rendered "sodomite." The Intermediate Liddell-Scott Lexicon has "lying with men." The first element means "male" and koite means "bed," "marriage-bed," or "lasciviousness."

An earlier English translation of the Bible had "bugger" instead of the KJV's circumlocution.

29 posted on 12/02/2011 12:24:11 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: All

Article and video report here. . .

http://www.khou.com/news/Protest-Signs-Confrontation-133124563.html


30 posted on 12/02/2011 12:29:43 PM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: SeekAndFind

Not many doing this so I don’t thing we have to worry about a lot of people getting arrested...............


31 posted on 12/02/2011 12:33:43 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obviously when James Madison put “freedom of speech” and “freedom of religion” in the 1st amendment, he never expected anyone to abuse those rights by quoting the Bible to condemn homosexuality. He assumed people would stick to nice uncontroversial texts like “peace on earth” or “the Lord is my shepherd” or “slaves, obey your masters.”


32 posted on 12/02/2011 12:44:02 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: stars & stripes forever

{...Homosexuality will bring in the persecution of the church.}

It also brings in money and sadly some church leaders are willing to sell out.


33 posted on 12/02/2011 3:58:17 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Goodnight, and may your God go with you"
34 posted on 12/02/2011 4:03:50 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: SeekAndFind

The judge dismissed the charges: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=373737


35 posted on 12/02/2011 5:16:26 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: RedWhiteBlue

RE: The judge dismissed the charges:

Well, well, well, don;t let anyone tell you that Lesbians cannot be fair after all. Maybe this is a court managed by a conservative gay judge...


36 posted on 12/03/2011 5:45:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My Pastor says in the next 5 years he will be prosecuted for preaching from the book of Romans...

I have always thought he was right.

Oh and he will preach even if prosecuted.


37 posted on 12/04/2011 5:12:54 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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