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Libertarian Case For Jon Huntsman[and conservative case for zotting the retread morons who like him]
Portsmouth Herald ^ | 12/2/11 | Eduardo J. Lopez-Reyes

Posted on 12/02/2011 10:07:47 AM PST by Retro Llama

Last May, when Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels was pondering a White House bid, Jason Sorens of the University of Buffalo wrote a commentary that went largely unnoticed. Wanting to "take a look at Jon Huntsman," who has been "widely viewed as a 'moderate' Republican, but whose" policies "stake out a position that may be more libertarian than Daniels'," Sorens concluded that after former Gov. Gary Johnson and Texas Congressman Ron Paul, Huntsman offered the most libertarian credentials — besting even Daniels.

Sorens's views deserve recognition in New Hampshire, a generally conservative state with decisively libertarian leanings, as our first-in-the-nation presidential primary approaches.

Without question, Paul and Johnson represent the most libertarian GOP factions, but Huntsman's record and views may be best aligned with President Ronald Reagan's, who stated that "the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." Sorens suggested labeling Huntsman's philosophy a "no-label libertarianism." In fact, like Reagan's, Huntsman's views might be best described as "middle-America libertarianism."...

(Excerpt) Read more at seacoastonline.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; agntsa; banpaultards; buffalo; eduardojlopezreyes; garyjohnson; gop; indiana; jasonsorens; jonhuntsman; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; mitchdaniels; newhampshire; newyork; openborders; paultards; republicans; repulbicans; ronpaul; texas; utah; zot
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Excellent argument for one of the few bright spots in the depressing GOP snafu parade.
1 posted on 12/02/2011 10:07:54 AM PST by Retro Llama
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To: Retro Llama

I will be elected before Gov. Huntsman.


2 posted on 12/02/2011 10:10:08 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Retro Llama

Why do you wacko libertarian Paulbots try to call yourselves conservatives when we who are only dismiss you?


3 posted on 12/02/2011 10:10:34 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Retro Llama

Libertarians are Democrats who don’t want to pay their taxes.


4 posted on 12/02/2011 10:12:07 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Retro Llama

Sorry, there seems to be something not quite right about the guy.

He isn’t a piece of paper but a person, and there’s something wrong there, especially in terms of electing someone who seems like a possible President.

If you can’t see it, no use explaining.


5 posted on 12/02/2011 10:12:20 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: DarthVader

Why do you write in sentences that don’t make sense?


6 posted on 12/02/2011 10:15:00 AM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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To: RexBeach

And you would do a better job I surmise. Libertarians - another word for liberals because they don’t want to pay taxes and are a bunch of pot smoking yahoos.


7 posted on 12/02/2011 10:17:20 AM PST by Jukeman
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To: Retro Llama
An absurd nonsensical argument made by someone who hasn't bothered to take a look at what Huntsman is actually proposing.

Of the GOP candidates Huntsman is the most in favor big Government statists solutions on everything from Global Warming to Banking regulations The only way to confuse Huntsman as being Libertarian is if you ignore everything in his agenda BUT his stands on social issues

8 posted on 12/02/2011 10:17:58 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: blueunicorn6

There are more libertarians in the Republican Party than in the Democratic Party.

There is a political spectrum within Libertarian thought that runs left to right, but you want to lump all of them together and ignore that there are different varieties of “libertarian”.

Republican Libertarians are primarily concerned with upholding individual liberty...that is decidedly not a Democratic platform position.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 10:21:05 AM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: MNJohnnie
The only way to confuse Huntsman as being Libertarian is if you ignore everything in his agenda BUT his stands on social issues

Right. In some strange way, Huntsman is the Huckabee of this cycle. He does hold conservative positions on key social issues but otherwise is Big Government writ large. That model died (hopefully) with George Bush.

10 posted on 12/02/2011 10:23:13 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: GSWarrior

You Paulbots just can’t handle the truth on what a minority you are and how minimal your impact really is.


11 posted on 12/02/2011 10:33:04 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Retro Llama

Time to start building up Huntsman for his “Save Obama” third party candidacy. Repayment for that cool China gig I guess or some future assignment to London or Paris.

IMHO, it won’t work but it is kind of fun to see the Huntsman for Prez campaign start to get some press. The MSM can always be counted on to come through for The Team.


14 posted on 12/02/2011 10:33:48 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: DarthVader
If you are going to denigrate people it's always wise to proofread your post.

BTW, denigrate means to put down.

15 posted on 12/02/2011 10:42:13 AM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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To: Jukeman

Yes, I would do a better job! :) All I’d have to do for four years was say “no!” Save us a bundle and get the buck strong again.

Cheers!

-Rex


16 posted on 12/02/2011 11:05:36 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Retro Llama

In after the ZOT?


17 posted on 12/02/2011 11:13:36 AM PST by mmanager
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To: 50mm; darkwing104; Old Sarge

Zotted?


18 posted on 12/02/2011 11:29:03 AM PST by mmanager
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To: Retro Llama; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
Retro Llama gets the retro ZOT!

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104 or 50mm.

19 posted on 12/02/2011 12:13:12 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Retro Llama

Trolls, listen up: Post your drek on the FIRST of the month so that the Undwead Thread has a choice of which one of you to harrass for a month, okay?


20 posted on 12/02/2011 12:22:28 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: 50mm
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21 posted on 12/02/2011 12:22:39 PM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: 50mm

I figured it got the ZOT for this thread.


GOP Presidential Candidate Announces Support Of Gay Marriage
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2815163/posts


22 posted on 12/02/2011 12:22:46 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Retro Llama

IATZ


23 posted on 12/02/2011 12:25:31 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: Retro Llama

24 posted on 12/02/2011 12:28:33 PM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: 50mm; darkwing104

I knew Retro Llama was going to get the zot.

I got in an argument with him yesterday on another thread and I said to myself “this guy is not long for this forum”.

Thank you, mods, for swatting this gnat.


25 posted on 12/02/2011 12:29:01 PM PST by samtheman
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To: GSWarrior
BTW, denigrate means to put down.

Are you being niggardly?

26 posted on 12/02/2011 12:33:34 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (To Obama, bipartisanship is giving the opposition the opportunity to do as they are told. (WGensert))
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To: blueunicorn6
If you mean Jeffersonian Democrats, then you are correct. If you mean today's Democrats, then not so much. Unless you have no clue that today's Dems are actually Marxist Communists...

As for Huntsman... No Thanks. Warmed over RINO.

Gary Johnson on the other hand... He's like Ron Paul without the isolationism and kook factor.

Cain's still my number 1 as long as the recent allegations against him prove false...

27 posted on 12/02/2011 12:43:01 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Retro Llama

Let’s all be perfectly clear on one thing — Huntsman is in the race for one reason and one reason only: to make an ass of himself running to the left of Romney in order to make Romney look “conservative” by comparison.


28 posted on 12/02/2011 12:46:38 PM PST by kevkrom (Separation of Business and State)
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To: TheOldLady

ZOT!


29 posted on 12/02/2011 1:57:35 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: Retro Llama; 50mm; Graybeard58; darkwing104; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; ..


So long, Retro Llama (Posting History)

Hat Tip to 50mm and Graybeard58

Retread Huntsman fan makes the case for the RINO and gets a rude escort off the site, and nothing left but ashes and ozone



No more RINOs NONE!


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

30 posted on 12/02/2011 2:53:10 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: 50mm

I really can’t stand Liberaltarians.


31 posted on 12/02/2011 2:56:47 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (1/3/2012-Iowa 1/10-Newt Hampshire 1/21-South Carolina 1/31-Florida)
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To: DarthVader

my thoughts too.

I asked this before but did not get an answer.
Why are the likes of Paul allowed to run on the GOP ticket when they clearly are more liberal on many social and foreign issues .

Like another poster said.

They are liberals who do not want to pay their taxes.


32 posted on 12/02/2011 3:15:22 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

same here.
They should run on their own ticket not the GOP ticket.


33 posted on 12/02/2011 3:18:36 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: TheOldLady
Thank You for the ping TOL! :-)


34 posted on 12/02/2011 3:19:34 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: TheOldLady

That was such a powerful zot, chunks of RL hit the house! ;’)


35 posted on 12/02/2011 3:57:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Jason Sorens:
http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jsorens/
http://www.nationalreview.com/agenda/284691/jason-sorens-death-local-economic-autonomy-us-reihan-salam

author of this shilling:

Eduardo J. Lopez-Reyes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_J._Lopez-Reyes
National Vice Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus
Alma mater University of Rhode Island, Durham University, American University in Cairo
Religion Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

candidate for Rhode Island Secretary of State against incumbent Secretary of State James Langevin in the 1998 election cycle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Langevin

[Lopez-Reyes] was a Staff Assistant to United States Senators Hank Brown and John H. Chafee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Brown
[ Brown is a member of the board of the International Foundation for Electoral Systems, a non profit which supports international elections ]

Lopez-Reyes received support from Republicans including Frederick Lippitt and Republican National Committeewoman for Rhode Island, Eileen Slocum in a State Senate race for Rhode Island’s 3rd District against State Senator Rhoda Perry in 2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Lippitt
[ ...the son of United States Senator Henry F. Lippitt (1911-1917) and Lucy Hayes Herron Lippitt. He was the grandson of Governor Henry Lippitt and the nephew of Governor Charles Warren Lippitt. First Lady Nellie Herron Taft was his aunt. He was the cousin of the late Senator John Chafee and Senator Lincoln Chafee. ]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhoda_Perry

[ Perry is the Senate legislative sponsor for Clean Elections Rhode Island... Clean elections is a term used to describe a system of taxpayer financing of political campaigns. ]

Lopez-Reyes was elected a National At-Large Board Member of the Republican Liberty Caucus... On September 13, 2011, following Vice Chairman Aaron Biterman’s resignation from the Republican Liberty Caucus, Lopez-Reyes was elected by the organization’s national Board as Biterman’s replacement.

http://www.rlc.org/liberty-index/elected/
http://www.rlc.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/usfist.jpg
http://www.rlc.org/charter-guide/toolbox/2010-endorsed-candidates/
[ RLC Speaks Out for Small Business and Individual Liberty by Opposing E-Verify ]
Justin Amash site:freerepublic.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=Justin+Amash+site:freerepublic.com

Lopez-Reyes has endorsed former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, Jr. for US President in the 2012 Republican presidential primaries.

(he heads Huntsman’s campaign in New Hampshire)

http://www.linkedin.com/in/edjlopezreyes
[ Member, New Hampshire Steering Committee at Jon Huntsman for President ]

Lopez-Reyes presided over a local affiliate of Habitat for Humanity International in New Hampshire between 2009 and 2011. He is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Jimmy & Rosalynn Carter and Habitat for Humanity
A tireless champion for social justice
http://www.habitat.org/how/carter.aspx

Jimmy & Rosalynn Carter Work Project
http://www.habitat.org/how/default_jcwp.aspx


36 posted on 12/02/2011 4:44:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1576136/posts?page=17#17 )
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To: 50mm
Photobucket

Reddy Kilowatt sez: "Take all the power you need to ZOT trolls. There's lots more where that came from!
37 posted on 12/02/2011 5:24:13 PM PST by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW

I nailed the troll here. See post by DJ MacWoW just below mine.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2815163/posts?page=38#38


38 posted on 12/02/2011 5:36:04 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: TheOldLady
Ah, most excellent ashes indeed


39 posted on 12/02/2011 6:09:14 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh, sorry about that. You have the whole weekend to sandblast the siding. Here’s hoping that you get it all off. [smiles]


40 posted on 12/02/2011 8:44:28 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Godzilla

Most excellent picture of you as well! I may start collecting them...


41 posted on 12/02/2011 8:47:36 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: South40

You’re welcome, sweetie.


42 posted on 12/02/2011 10:10:46 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Arrowhead1952; DJ MacWoW
Yes, he was all over both threads. Not sure which post was the last straw, but it's nice he's gone.  
43 posted on 12/02/2011 10:16:50 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Retro Llama
Sheesh. Are you still here?

Zot!!

Now stay away.

44 posted on 12/03/2011 4:59:15 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Retro Llama

Might as well go all the way with Gary Johnson. Not much difference on illegal immigration.


45 posted on 12/03/2011 5:12:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: blueunicorn6
Libertarians are Democrats who don’t want to pay their taxes.

I have noticed libertarian is the new catch all for those too embarrassed to say they are liberals or democrats. A guy I work with is a nearly a communist and he tries to say he's a libertarian. I have to educate him on the basic principles of being a libertarian which aren't only "people can do drugs and have sex with who ever they want to and you can't say anything about it".

46 posted on 12/03/2011 5:18:08 AM PST by riri
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To: TheOldLady
Bye Bye..Photobucket
47 posted on 12/03/2011 7:51:58 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: mojitojoe
I love Monty Python.

Old retro llama got smacked with something more virtually lethal than a fish, though.

The Demwits and Libtards just have to face the fact that they can say whatever they want here, but they have to suffer the consequences of their proselytizing for leftist, anti-Constitution, America-destroying candidates, agendas, laws, and causes.
48 posted on 12/03/2011 8:18:01 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Libertarian Case For Jon Huntsman[and conservative case for zotting the retread morons who like him]
Portsmouth Herald ^ | 12/2/11 | Eduardo J. Lopez-Reyes

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That's one fine headline! LOL

49 posted on 12/03/2011 12:37:16 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: TheOldLady; 50mm; Arrowhead1952
50mm;TheOldLady...what happened, You've been zotted. :(
thanks, for the ping.... "harass 'em / stick 'em w/ a pointed stick."
(Monty Python :)


SO...LONG!
FAREWELL!
ADIOS!
AUF WIEDERSEHEN!
.....and please, get a life. :P

50 posted on 12/03/2011 1:04:44 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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