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Republican Jewish Coalition Bars Ron Paul From Presidential Debate
Reason Magazine ^ | 12/01/11 | Reason

Posted on 12/02/2011 1:35:29 PM PST by STD

On Wednesday, Dec. 7, the Republican Jewish Coalition will host a presidential-candidates forum featuring Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, and Rick Santorum. Not invited is the GOP candidate currently polling around third in New Hampshire and second in Iowa: Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas). The explanation:

Paul was not invited to attend the RJC's candidates forum because the organization - as it has stated numerous times in the past - "rejects his misguided and extreme views," said [RJC Executive Director Matt] Brooks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: anarchocommunism; catholicism; distributism; exclusion; jewish; ronpaul; stealthcommunist
"He's just so far outside of the mainstream of the Republican party and this organization," Brooks said. Inviting Paul to attend would be "like inviting Barack Obama to speak."

Link via the Twitter feed of an approving Jamie Kirchick.

Brooks gave a more detailed critique of Ron Paul back in May:

"As Americans who are committed to a strong and vigorous foreign policy, we are deeply concerned about the prospective presidential campaign of Congressman Ron Paul. While Rep. Paul plans to run as a Republican, his views and past record place him far outside of the Republican mainstream. His candidacy, as we've seen in his past presidential campaigns, will appeal to a very narrow constituency in the U.S. electorate. Throughout his public service, Paul has espoused a dangerous isolationist vision for the U.S. and our role in the world. He has been a virulent and harsh critic of Israel during his tenure in Congress*. Most recently Paul gave an interview in which he voiced his objection to the recent killing of Osama Bin Laden.

Brooks added, "We certainly respect Congressman Paul's right to run, but we strongly reject his misguided and extreme views, which are not representative of the Republican Party."

Weird punctuation in the original.

So what are these "extreme views"? Over at The Huffington Post, Dovid Efune, the director of The Algemeiner Journal and Gershon Jacobson Foundation, offers an explanation:

Paul's positions on Israel have been almost uniformly derided. Whilst claiming to be non-interventionist on the issue, he has routinely adopted Arab talking points on Israel, even comparing Gaza to 'a concentration camp.' His Isolationist mantra may appeal to fiscal conservatives, but in the real world its implementation would create a global power vacuum that would likely be filled by supporters of Israel's enemies.

Anti Defamation League National Director Abraham Foxman has a perhaps unintentionally interesting take about Paul, U.S. politics, and Israel:

with the exception of Ron Paul, there is not much difference between the parties

And no orthodoxy-definition would be complete without David Frum:

Of the 8 candidates competing for the Republican presidential nomination, 7 declared themselves intense supporters of the State of Israel, the sole exception being crank no-hoper Ron Paul.

I'm no expert on Ron Paul's Israel views, and I reserve the right to be outraged later by what I don't know now, but what I find interesting here is the namecalling-to-content ratio. Here, let's count it out:

Name-calling: 1) "misguided and extreme," 2) "so far outside of the mainstream," 3) "like...Barack Obama," 4) "will appeal to a very narrow constituency," 5) "dangerous isolationist vision," 6) "uniformly derided," 7) "claim[s] to be non-interventionist," 8) "Isolationist," 9) "differen[t]," 10) "crank."

Content: 1) "virulent and harsh critic of Israel," 2) "voiced his objection to the...killing of Osama Bin Laden," 3) "routinely adopted Arab talking points," 4) "compar[ed] Gaza to 'a concentration camp," 5) "would create a global power vacuum that would likely be filled by supporters of Israel's enemies."

Looking at the five content items, 1) is supported only by 4); 2) intentionally left out the phrase "legal method of," 3) is a general and largely contentless insult, 4) is a discrete piece of hyperbole that rubs my literalist heart the wrong way, too (though the full quote contains two qualifiers: "Palestinians are virtually in like a concentration camp"); and 5) is the Transitive Property run amok, though it does at least hint at the real-world question/critique of what, exactly, replaces hegemonic American responsibility for world affairs, and which bad actors are more likely to do badder things.

Does this, plus Paul's principled rejection of all foreign aid, his relentless espousal of the "blowback" theory of terrorism, and his negligence in allowing to appear under his name during the first Clinton administration some newsletter conspiracy theorizing about (among other things) the 1993 World Trade Center bombing being a "setup by the Israeli Mossad" enough to disqualify him for the grownups' table on foreign policy?

Well, I'm neither Republican nor Jewish nor a member of a Coalition, so the immediate event is not my call (though I do believe that dissonance is more illuminating than seven-part harmony). That said, this seems to me more of an attempt to draw boundaries around acceptable policy discourse than any active concern that President Dr. Ron Paul would be actively anti-Israel or anti-Semitic. The fact that he is a political outlier on an effectively bipartisan U.S. foreign policy that has become increasingly expensive and unpopular strikes me as a count in favor, not against. And nothing Paul said at last month's largely grotesque American Enterprise Institute foreign policy debate struck me as more objectionable than Mitt Romney's grovel that his first overseas trip as president would be to Israel.

Some other bullet-pointed observations and gratuitous commenter bait:

* The New York Sun editorial board, not known for its unfriendliness toward Israel, defended Paul both from charges of anti-Semitism and foreign policy insanity last year.

* Here's how quickly Paul's anti-interventionist rhetoric can be turned into charges of "anti-Semitic arguments," courtesy of Ben Stein. (Slightly less inflammatory accusations from David Horowitz circa March 2007. UPDATE: And, thanks to commenter Ken E., a considerably more inflammatory accusation from the Horo show this February: "Ron Paul Is A Vicious Anti-Semite and Anti-American and Conservatives Need To Wash Their Hands of Him.")

* Some Republicans tried to bar Paul from all debates back in May 2007 on grounds that his overall foreign policy views were "just so off the wall and out of whack."

* Here's Paul himself talking to then-Reasoner David Weigel in May 2007, in response to charges of old newsletter "anti-Semitism."

Reason on Ron Paul here, including his candidate profile as part of our Presidential Dating Game.

1 posted on 12/02/2011 1:35:30 PM PST by STD
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To: STD

although I don’t support Ron Paul, I like his opinion on Israel.


2 posted on 12/02/2011 1:44:58 PM PST by brivette
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To: STD

One doesn’t have to be Jewish to see how wacked out “President Dr. Ron Paul” is.


3 posted on 12/02/2011 1:45:18 PM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: STD

Cain might not make it to the debate, right?

Maybe this is the chance that Santorum has been waiting for.

I would have kept Wrong Paul out of all the debates if it were up to me.


4 posted on 12/02/2011 1:50:58 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: STD

When one person or group threatens another with the initiation of force,and the other wants to achieve peace by offering no resistance, but simply obeying. This is the peace of victims, slaves, and cowards. This is the kind of peace corrupt intellectuals always urge on the relatively free people of the Western world in relation to aggression. No thanks Ron Paul.


5 posted on 12/02/2011 1:52:31 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: brivette
Ron Paul? My only problem with him is he needs to take his meds through a suppository instead of orally.
6 posted on 12/02/2011 1:53:08 PM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: STD

>>Inviting Paul to attend would be “like inviting Barack Obama to speak.”

80% of American Jews voted for Obama, so they might as well invite him.


7 posted on 12/02/2011 1:59:54 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Bryanw92

So, do you think it is productive to insult the Republican Jewish Cooalition?

Are you a lazy thinker who can’t judge individuals as individuals?

Or do you just hate Jewish people?


8 posted on 12/02/2011 2:18:34 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: brivette

So you support Paul’s contention that even as an alias Israel is to be left their own devises when Iran attacks them - got it.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 2:20:56 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: STD
Republican Jewish Coalition will not invited Rep. Ron Paul

But inviting people who aid and abet radical racist, anti-American organizations, by attending their pro-illegal alien meetings, lending credibility to legitimacy to these organizations, is perfectly fine.


10 posted on 12/02/2011 2:23:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: brivette
Whilst claiming to be non-interventionist on the issue, he has routinely adopted Arab talking points on Israel, even comparing Gaza to 'a concentration camp.'

You agree with this, lefty ?

11 posted on 12/02/2011 3:00:24 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Jewbacca

Insulting the the Republican Jewish Cooalition?

The Urban Dictionary defines cooal as:
“to be not quite cool, usually referring to effeminant men”

Do you just hate Gay people Jewbaca?


12 posted on 12/02/2011 3:20:13 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: STD
1. Governors Gary Johnson and Buddy Roemer are both still candidates and have been systematically excluded by the media at their stacked debates. The same is true for then candidate Representative Thad McCotter. No one seems to care.
2. This isn't just about Israel. In 2007, the RJC excluded Congressmen Hunter, Paul, and Tancredo, and lied about the positions of Hunter and Tancredo to justify their selection process. I quit the RJC in 2007 over the lies. The RJC like Romney and Newt and are just as biased as NBC and CNN.
13 posted on 12/02/2011 7:00:28 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: STD

Why did you change the tile of this piece from “Republican Jewish Coalition Bars Ron Paul From Presidential Debate, Saying He’s Too “misguided and extreme”” to your inflammatory title, Jews Exclude Ron Paul?


14 posted on 12/02/2011 7:08:42 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: STD

To prevent duplication, please do not alter the published title. Thanks.


15 posted on 12/02/2011 7:18:16 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: STD

I support Ron Paul because he supports Israel’s right to self defense without interference by the international community.


16 posted on 12/02/2011 9:24:26 PM PST by Chewbacca (woof woof. That's my other wookie impression.)
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To: Chewbacca
"..Israel’s right to self defense.."

There you go.

Cease all foreign aid, and turn Israel loose.

"Poof"! No more "Palestinian" problem.

17 posted on 12/03/2011 7:30:21 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

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18 posted on 12/04/2011 9:15:25 AM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: brivette

MOSLUMS VOTE TO SUPPORT TERRORISM IN EGYPT
Islamic fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood garnered 36.6 percent of the 9.7 million valid ballots cast last week. The Nour Party, representing the more hard-line Salafi Islamists, captured 24.4 percent. Thats 61 percent!

SOLUTION:
Paul/Rubio. Paul will stop paying Israel, thus making Israel much more dangerous to the moslums. Thus the moslums will respect Israel or the Israeli Pit Bull will be off the leash mauling Islam with Nuclear teeth.!!!....Rubio will win the Latino vote.


19 posted on 12/04/2011 10:41:46 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Nonstatist

your mistaken, I’m a righty.


20 posted on 12/05/2011 8:10:55 AM PST by brivette
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To: nkycincinnatikid

“Do you just hate Gay people Jewbaca?”

The only queers I hate are you and your “top” Barney Frank.


21 posted on 12/05/2011 8:16:19 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: brivette

Answer the question, buchanan


22 posted on 12/05/2011 12:38:32 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Jewbacca

Barney is your guy.
Your reply certifies that folks like you and Frank can absolutely say and do anything with impunity.
Any lie, any crime, you really are Getsl the fiddler, ever consider that?


23 posted on 12/06/2011 6:05:42 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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