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How Conservative is Newt's Actual Voting Record?
libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 12/02/2011 1:50:20 PM PST by libertarian neocon

The folks at Club for Growth has white papers on all the GOP candidates summarizing their public records and does a pretty objective job. Looking at Newt's I really was struck by how conservative Newt's actual voting record was (which of course was mischaracterized by Jennifer Rubin, who I think must have been offered a post in a Romney administration. How else do you explain her going full spittle in support of Romney and anti-Newt?)., with most of the worrisome aspects of his record coming from speeches AFTER he left public office. This is pretty much the exact opposite of Romney, who has a very questionable record from his limited time in elected office, with most of his conservatism coming from campaign speeches. Anyway, let's look at Newt's actual record:

I also decided to look myself at how much federal spending increased while Gingrich was Speaker of the House (1995-1999). By my calculations, Federal spending rose an average of 3.1% a year while he was speaker. When you compare it to the Presidential terms from Reagan on, this is the lowest rate of spending growth over the last 30 years. Under Reagan, spending grew an average of 7.6% a year. Under George H.W. Bush, 6.7%. Under Clinton, 3.3% (it would have been much more if he got his single payor health care plan through, also he was restrained by Newt later). Under W., it as 6.6% and under Obama, a whopping 8.6% a year. Also, under Newt, Federal spending as a % of GDP fell from 21% to 18.5%, a whopping decline in 4 short years.

Is his record perfect? Nope. Not even close. But the point is that on the big issues, he voted Conservative and helped champion balanced budgets and tax reform. Focusing on that actual voting record really makes me more comfortable with him. Especially when his main opponent is someone whose main accomplishment is a massive government healthcare program.



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1 posted on 12/02/2011 1:50:28 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon

I am not surprised and I’ll tell you why: most of Newt’s liberal dalliances - and yes he’s had them - are in books and in editorials and PSA’s and so on. When it comes down to actual governance, he’s been - as the article says - very good (though not great).

I think people also remember that he did not maximize the Contract with America opportunity - so with all of that, they tend to also forget that he did do some great things while Clinton was President and did vote right for the most part while in congress.

Not to say we should ignore the liberal dalliances - which are more from his mindset of being a government tinkerer - than anything else - but keep it in perspective.


2 posted on 12/02/2011 1:56:16 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: libertarian neocon

Gingrich is a politician, and he’s been running for office for a long time. He’s been trying to appeal to as many voters as possible—even muddleheaded TV watchers. A politician’s voting record is the only way to see the truth about him.


3 posted on 12/02/2011 2:00:12 PM PST by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: libertarian neocon

Good job.

There are so many lists being posted on FR - it’s hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. Newt’s many years in Congress shows that he VOTED yea or nea - not ‘present’. He did what he believed was the right thing. We may not agree with all his decisions - but the people of Georgia did.

off topic but relevant: On Hannity today - Mitt made the statement that Newt was a career politician. Question: What is a career candidate called?

The years following his political career - Newt has been a successful consultant.

The years following his Governorship - Mitt has run for elective office - spending his inherited fortune.


4 posted on 12/02/2011 2:02:11 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: libertarian neocon

1998 was the last year that Gingrich, Paul and Santorum were all in Congress. Gingrich’s annual and lifetime ACU ratings were far better than both of the others:

100% - Gingrich: Annual 1998 ACU Rating (90% Lifetime Rating as of 1998)

88% - Paul: Annual 1998 ACU Rating (88% Lifetime Rating as of 1998)

84% - Santorum: Annual 1998 ACU Rating (83% Lifetime Rating as of 1998)

Source: http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/1998/98houseratings.htm


5 posted on 12/02/2011 2:06:27 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: libertarian neocon

When you compare it to the Presidential terms from Reagan on, this is the lowest rate of spending growth over the last 30 years. Under Reagan, spending grew an average of 7.6% a year. Under George H.W. Bush, 6.7%. Under Clinton, 3.3% (it would have been much more if he got his single payor health care plan through, also he was restrained by Newt later). Under W., it as 6.6% and under Obama, a whopping 8.6% a year. Also, under Newt, Federal spending as a % of GDP fell from 21% to 18.5%, a whopping decline in 4 short years.”

Good solid information.In addition, the meat ax taken to the welfare state should be mentioned, saving us untold TRILLIONS if we continued down that path.

Newt is never criticized for his achievement in office, but for his affairs, peccadilloes and rampant capitalist pig behavior making money for his firm(s) after the fact, even though he has never been found guilty of breaking or even denting any laws or stautes. Even his bogus charges in the House were dismissed one by one, the last and only one that earned hm the censure, being dismissed by the IRS after the fact...

Of course, I can see why people wouldn’t want him in office...we no longer have problems cutting entitlements, run away deficits or over spending. Why put a race car driver in the 88 car when we can get a NY cabbie with a hack license?


6 posted on 12/02/2011 2:08:05 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Notwithstanding

“1998 was the last year that Gingrich, Paul and Santorum were all in Congress. Gingrich’s annual and lifetime ACU ratings were far better than both of the others:”

That’s great stuff. I didn’t realize Santorum only had an 83% at that point. I wonder what his weakness was? Pork projects for PA?


7 posted on 12/02/2011 2:10:57 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: Notwithstanding

Newt’s congressional constituency was a lot more conservative than Santorum’s. An 83% lifetime ACU rating from a state which is maybe 50% conservative shows a lot more courage than a 90% rating from a congressional district which is probably 90% conservative.


8 posted on 12/02/2011 2:13:43 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: libertarian neocon

I will give Michele Bachmann her props and note that she has a lifetime rating of 100%.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 2:14:36 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: libertarian neocon

The BIG issue, IMO is abortion.


10 posted on 12/02/2011 2:16:32 PM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: familyop
He’s been trying to appeal to as many voters as possible—even muddleheaded TV watchers. A politician’s voting record is the only way to see the truth about him.

This is what I have been trying to say but couldn't articulate it as well! Please repeat this often :-)

11 posted on 12/02/2011 2:35:04 PM PST by Bobalu (even Jesus knew the poor would always be with us)
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To: ez

“I will give Michele Bachmann her props and note that she has a lifetime rating of 100%.”

Yup. I’m very happy she is around and on our side. As the nominee though? not so much.


12 posted on 12/02/2011 2:36:54 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon

I’m glad you took the time to look. All this RINO talk is just a bunch of crapola. I believe that Newt has a lifetime 90% conservative record. He is a senior fellow with the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. He is also a constitutionalist. If nominated and elected I believe Newt will do his best to enact the 21st Century Contract For America which is a good plan.


13 posted on 12/02/2011 2:58:37 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: libertarian neocon

stuff like you posted is why Newt is winning.

If you look at his ACU ratings and votes from 79-88 when he and Cheney were both in the House they’re virtually the same. Is Cheney some RINO?

The idea that Newt isn’t conservative is hard to stomach, and that’s why very few are buying it.


14 posted on 12/02/2011 4:46:46 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: libertarian neocon

Bump for later reference.


15 posted on 12/02/2011 5:14:56 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Vigilanteman

So, by applying your logic, given that Santorum’s constituency would be 50% conservative as president, we can expect him to cave on important conservative issues just like he did as a PA senator.

Nice.


16 posted on 12/02/2011 7:35:07 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Vigilanteman; Notwithstanding
Newt’s congressional constituency was a lot more conservative than Santorum’s

Newt wasn't conservative enough for his district.

17 posted on 12/04/2011 2:48:19 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Or another way to look at it is that his liberal dalliances have come in the last 13 years, his conservative record was before that.


18 posted on 12/04/2011 2:52:18 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ez; Colonel_Flagg

“I will give Michele Bachmann her props and note that she has a lifetime rating of 100%.”

Another reason why I support her.


19 posted on 12/04/2011 3:11:52 PM PST by LUV W (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: libertarian neocon

Here’s to your zot, n00b!


20 posted on 12/04/2011 3:13:05 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: All

Noob troll alert, c’mon people, wake up!


21 posted on 12/04/2011 3:14:45 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Notwithstanding

lol, why did you leave off Bachmann? Hopefully is was just a slight oversight because she has a 100% lifetime rating.

http://www.conservative.org/ratings/2008house.htm

If this posts more than once, sorry. Can’t tell what’s posting and what’s not based on the Service Error message.


22 posted on 12/04/2011 3:28:33 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Notwithstanding

lol, why did you leave off Bachmann? Hopefully is was just a slight oversight because she has a 100% lifetime rating.

http://www.conservative.org/ratings/2008house.htm

If this posts more than once, sorry. Can’t tell what’s posting and what’s not based on the Service Error message.


23 posted on 12/04/2011 3:28:38 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
"Noob troll alert, c’mon people, wake up!"

Probably on 7-28-06 someone gave you a "Noob troll alert".

24 posted on 12/04/2011 3:36:55 PM PST by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: libertarian neocon

Actions speak louder than words.


25 posted on 12/04/2011 3:40:40 PM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: libertarian neocon

Looks like an anti-Newter has sullied your keywords.


26 posted on 12/04/2011 3:48:15 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: parksstp

I used the last year Newt, Paul and Santorum were all serving, which was 1998. It is more apples to apples that way and it undercuts the lies that Newt is not as conservative as the other two.

I like Bachmann as a spokesmodel for conservatism, but she is not presidential timber - and her resume does not indicate she has ever led a significant organization.


27 posted on 12/04/2011 3:54:26 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding; libertarian neocon

Excellent research by both of you. There’s no doubt that Gingrich is a conservative and I think he’s improved with age. I know I have. He’s also authored 23 books so it’s easy to find quotes to cherry pick if one is so inclined, but “voting records of major accomplishments” are there for all to see.

I’ve read the thread and know why you didn’t include Michele Bachmann in your comparison.


28 posted on 12/04/2011 3:59:58 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Notwithstanding; libertarian neocon

Excellent research by both of you. There’s no doubt that Gingrich is a conservative and I think he’s improved with age. I know I have. He’s also authored 23 books so it’s easy to find quotes to cherry pick if one is so inclined, but “voting records of major accomplishments” are there for all to see.

I’ve read the thread and know why you didn’t include Michele Bachmann in your comparison.


29 posted on 12/04/2011 4:00:36 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Notwithstanding; libertarian neocon

Excellent research by both of you. There’s no doubt that Gingrich is a conservative and I think he’s improved with age. I know I have. He’s also authored 23 books so it’s easy to find quotes to cherry pick if one is so inclined, but “voting records of major accomplishments” are there for all to see.

I’ve read the thread and know why you didn’t include Michele Bachmann in your comparison.


30 posted on 12/04/2011 4:00:52 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Why is he a troll?


31 posted on 12/04/2011 4:01:36 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: parksstp

I used the last year Newt, Paul and Santorum were all serving, which was 1998. It is more apples to apples that way and it undercuts the lies that Newt is not as conservative as the other two.

I like Bachmann as a spokesmodel for conservatism, but she is not presidential timber - and her resume does not indicate she has ever led a significant organization.


32 posted on 12/04/2011 4:02:09 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: libertarian neocon

Breaking News???


33 posted on 12/04/2011 4:18:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: Notwithstanding

“it undercuts the lies that Newt is not as conservative as the other two”

No it doesn’t.

I hope you are aware that the speaker only votes when there’s a tie.

And in that case it would have been absurd for a republican speaker to side with the dems.


34 posted on 12/04/2011 4:20:43 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless & Inhumane)
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To: libertarian neocon

Look at their accomplishments. Newt allied himself with Ronald Reagan to build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority (together the Reagan Revolution) which directly led the downfall of the Soviet Union, the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, long-standing Reagan economy.

Romney, on the other hand, vehemently denied Ronald Reagan and aligned himself with Ted Kennedy and the left. Romney accomplished installing liberal big government programs, defended and promoted Roe v Wade and legalized abortion as “settled law,” advocated and implemented RomneyCare with its liberty killing government mandates against formerly free citizens and its taxpayer funded or subsidized and mandated abortion procedures. He ran and governed to the left of Ted Kennedy on the “gay agenda” resulting in gay marriage in Massachusetts. He appointed liberal judges and liberal appointees throughout his government. Under his “leadership” conservatism and the Republican party was all but destroyed in Massachusetts.

Romney is one evil liberal progressive. No way in hell will MittBots be allowed to support this abortionist, big government, socialist scumbag on FR!

Guess my message isn’t clear enough. I have to keep repeating it and zotting would be MittBots.

79 posted on Sat Dec 03 2011 19:59:37 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) by Jim Robinson


35 posted on 12/04/2011 4:22:30 PM PST by narses
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You mean you don’t think liberal blogs belong in Breaking News?

/s


36 posted on 12/04/2011 4:22:32 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Breaking News???”

Yep, it has just been discovered that Newt voted conservative at least once every three years.


37 posted on 12/04/2011 4:25:53 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless & Inhumane)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I’ve watched good, bedrock conservatives go soft over the years and I’ve always been struck by the fact that it usually happens when those conservatives start to fall prey to the media, and usually after being assaulted by the media.

For some strange reason, they think the media will “like” them if they soften their speech or positions, “just a little” at first, or backtrack “just a little” on a tiny and even an insignificant issue.

Once a conservative shows that weakness, s/he is almost a goner.

I can give you Eric Cantor for one example. He and his wife like to make the Beltway cocktail scene, but as little as 4 years ago, he was a fighter and even mentioned as McCain’s VP. Now he’s one of the “deal makers” and more establishment than fighter. He showed weakness during several TV interviews with the “media.”

A more recent example is Herman Cain and his interview with Bob Sheiffer who laid into him for the you-tube ad by Cain’s campaign manager smoking a cig. Sheiffer berated Cain for the ad showing him smiling at the end of the ad, because his manager was smoking! Oh the horrors! Cain and Sheiffer are cancer survivors and what would children think!

Sheiffer forced Cain into denouncing the ad (so to speak) and to what avail? Scheiffer had Cain on the defense about a stupid ad!!

I’ve gone off track a bit, but my point is that I think Gingrich will be A-OK so long as the media and demonic-rats hate him and he has both to fight.

The worry will come if he gets into the position of trying to court the demonic-rats and the media.


38 posted on 12/04/2011 4:26:33 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Spunky
Probably on 7-28-06 someone gave you a "Noob troll alert".

Actually it didn't happen....I've only been called a troll by a Paul bot and that was after I was well established here.

Since then I've developed a keen nose, though I've been wrong once or twice.....ask non sequitur and jamses777 ;)

39 posted on 12/04/2011 4:41:14 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Spunky
Probably on 7-28-06 someone gave you a "Noob troll alert".

Actually it didn't happen....I've only been called a troll by a Paul bot and that was after I was well established here.

Since then I've developed a keen nose, though I've been wrong once or twice.....ask non sequitur and jamses777 ;)

40 posted on 12/04/2011 4:41:25 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: libertarian neocon
When the words "Political Opportunist" and "Conservative" become interchangeable, only then Newt Gingrich will be considered "a Conservative".

Newt a DC insider who parlayed his years in Congress into a lucrative influence peddling business to the tune of $1.8M for his company -- the WSJ dubbing him "Newt Inc.". He promoted the Global Warming Scheme with Nancy Pelosi. Newt was fined an unprecedented $300K by a bipartisan Congressional ethics committee that eventually drove him from office in 1998. Newt reneged on the original Contract With America -- and even with a Republican dominated House, did nothing.

The man stands ZERO -- and I mean ZERO -- chance against Obama. He won't get a single independent or crossover vote. He's McCain Redux.

Newt is a Rockefeller Republican --a liberal, big government wheeler-dealer who represents everything that the Tea Party protested against a few years ago. I just cannot believe how some so-called Tea Partyers are contorting themselves to make Newt fit that Conservative label now!

41 posted on 12/04/2011 4:57:43 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: libertarian neocon
When the words "Political Opportunist" and "Conservative" become interchangeable, only then Newt Gingrich will be considered "a Conservative".

Newt a DC insider who parlayed his years in Congress into a lucrative influence peddling business to the tune of $1.8M for his company -- the WSJ dubbing him "Newt Inc.". He promoted the Global Warming Scheme with Nancy Pelosi. Newt was fined an unprecedented $300K by a bipartisan Congressional ethics committee that eventually drove him from office in 1998. Newt reneged on the original Contract With America -- and even with a Republican dominated House, did nothing.

The man stands ZERO -- and I mean ZERO -- chance against Obama. He won't get a single independent or crossover vote. He's McCain Redux.

Newt is a Rockefeller Republican --a liberal, big government wheeler-dealer who represents everything that the Tea Party protested against a few years ago. I just cannot believe how some so-called Tea Partyers are contorting themselves to make Newt fit that Conservative label now!

42 posted on 12/04/2011 4:58:56 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: libertarian neocon

You seem to be missing a few of Newts hits in there. Let me enlighten you.

04/02/1987 - cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine
10/22/1991 - voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.
03/—/1993 - voted for sending $1.6 billion in foreign aid to Russia.
1/27/1994 - supported the GATT Treaty giving sovereignty to the U.N.
08/27/1995 - suggests that drug smuggling should carry a death sentence.
04/25/1996 - voted for the then single largest increase on federal education spending ($3.5 billion)
04/10/1995 - supported federal tax dollars being spent on abortions.
06/01/1996 - helped a Democrat switch parties in an attempt to defeat Ron Paul in the 1996 election.
09/25/1996 - introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
01/22/1997 - Congress gave him a record-setting $300,000 fine for ethical wrongdoing.
11/29/2006 - said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism, called for a “serious debate about the 1st Amendment.”
02/15/2007 - supports Bush’s proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
09/28/2008 - says if in office, he would have reluctantly voted for the $700B TARP bailout.
09/30/2008 - releases his book A Contract with the Earth which embraces man-made global warming.
12/08/2008 - paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from bringing necessary reform.
03/31/2009 - says we should have Singapore-style drug tests for Americans.
11/15/2010 - defends Romneycare
01/30/2011 - lobbies for ethanol subsidies.
01/30/2011 - suggests that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans.
02/13/2011 - criticizes Obama for sending less U.S. tax dollars to Egypt.
03/09/2011 - blames his infidelity to multiple wives on his passion for the country.
03/15/2011 - says that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
03/19/2011 - has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (now $7.2T unfunded liability)
03/23/2011 - completely flip-flops on Libyan intervention in 16 days.
03/25/2011 - plans to sign as many as 200 executive orders on his first day as president.
04/25/2011 - admits he is a paid lobbyist for federal ethanol subsidies.
07/15/2011 - his poorly managed campaign is over $1 million in debt.
08/01/2011 - hires a company to create fake Twitters to appear as if had a following.
11/16/2011 - revealed he actually received $1.6 million lobbying for Freddie Mac, vs. his previously stated $300,000


43 posted on 12/04/2011 5:03:04 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Why is he a troll?


44 posted on 12/04/2011 5:17:16 PM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: Notwithstanding
Newt had a lifetime ACU rating of 90%. Santorum had a lifetime ACU rating of 88%. Not much difference there.

Now compare to Bachmann's lifetime ACU rating of 100%.

45 posted on 12/04/2011 5:28:10 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

ACU has zero credibility as far as I’m concerned. Backing Spector against Toomey demonstrated how useless the organization and those scores truly are.

http://www.conservative.org/wp-content/themes/Conservative/keene-archive/keene/030521dk.php


46 posted on 12/04/2011 5:32:41 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: thesaleboat
The BIG issue, IMO is abortion.

I think the big issue is who gets to appoint the next two Supreme Court Justices.

Will a Gingrich or Romney/Perry appoint Constitutionalist Justices?

47 posted on 12/04/2011 5:40:13 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: KantianBurke
ACU has zero credibility as far as I’m concerned. Backing Spector against Toomey demonstrated how useless the organization and those scores truly are.

Santorum backing Spector is one mistake.

The ACU gives Santorum an 88% lifetime rating, which means that Santorum has made more than one mistake.

Your claim that the ACU ratings have "zero credibility" is not proven by your one example of Santorum backing Spector.

48 posted on 12/04/2011 5:41:04 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: libertarian neocon

Any of our candidates would be more conservative than Hussein.


49 posted on 12/04/2011 5:47:49 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: FreeReign

Did you even read my link? The ACU’s President was the one backing Spector regardless of the score differences. Show’s how much value the ACU gives to them. Santorum is irrelevant to that equation.


50 posted on 12/04/2011 5:49:59 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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