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Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military
CNS News ^ | 1 December 2011 | Pete Winn

Posted on 12/02/2011 1:53:39 PM PST by IbJensen

CNSNews.com) – (Updated) The Senate on Thursday evening voted 93-7 to approve a defense authorization bill that includes a provision which not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals--or bestiality.

On Nov. 15, the Senate Armed Services Committee had unanimously approved S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes a provision to repeal Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

Article 125 of the UCMJ makes it illegal to engage in both sodomy with humans and sex with animals.

It states: "(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said the effort to remove sodomy from military law stems from liberal Senate Democrats' and President Obama’s support for removing the military’s Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy.

“It’s all about using the military to advance this administration’s radical social agenda,” Perkins told CNSNews.com. “Not only did they overturn Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, but they had another problem, and that is, under military law sodomy is illegal, just as adultery is illegal, so they had to remove that prohibition against sodomy.”

Perkins said removing the bestiality provision may have been intentional--or just “collateral damage”

“Well, whether it was inadvertent or not, they have also taken out the provision against bestiality,” he said. “So now, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), there’s nothing there to prosecute bestiality."

Former Army Col. Bob Maginnis said some military lawyers have indicated that bestiality may be prosecutable under another section of the military code of justice – the “catch-all” Article 134 for offenses against “good military order and discipline.”

But don't count on that, he said.

“If we have a soldier who engages in sodomy with an animal – whether a government animal or a non-government animal – is it, in fact, a chargeable offense under the Uniform Code? I think that’s in question,” Maginnis told CNSNews.com.

“When the reader stops laughing, the reader needs to ask the question whether or not this is in the best interests of the government, in the best interests of the military and the best interests of the country? I think not.”

He added: “Soldiers, unfortunately, like it or not, have engaged in this type of behavior in the past. Will they in the future, if they remove this statute? I don’t know.”

Perkins said there was no attempt to remove the UCMJ repeal provision from the bill, which Perkins had expected the Senate to approve.

Now that it has passed, however, the Senate version will have to go to a conference committee, and Perkins predicts there will be several sticking points with the House.

“The House in their version of the defense authorization, reinforced the Defense of Marriage Act, saying that there is a military DOMA as well, prohibiting same-sex marriage on military bases – something the Department of Defense is pushing for,” he said.

“And now this is an added concern, that sodomy has been removed, and as we have discovered, that bestiality--the prohibition against it--has been removed from the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So yes, the House will have problems with this bill.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bestiality; deathofthemilitary; doma; evil; gomorrah; homosexualagenda; interspeciessex; marryahorse; military; moralabsolutes; senate; sexualsin; sexwithanimals; socialistgoverment; sodom; sodomy; ucmj; zoophiles; zoophilesoldiers; zoophilia
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REPUBLICANS THAT VOTED FOR THIS BILL WILL PAY THE PRICE. I WILL WRITE THEIR NAMES DOWN, AND EVERY CHANCE I GET, I WILL PUT THEIR NAMES OUT THERE, AND CONSTANTLY REMIND THE CON/REPUBLICANS, WHAT OUR LOVELY, CARING REPUBLICAN SENATORS HAD VOTED ON, IN THE MONTH OF CHRISTIAN HOLY, HOLIDAYS.

PS. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY AND ALL HELP FROM FELLOW REPUBLICANS/CONSERVATIVES TO SPREAD THE WORD. LET'S NOT ALLOW THESE LOSERS, THE OPPORTUNNITY TO HIDE THIS CRAP, IN THE HOPES THAT THEIR "STUPID CONSTITUENTS" WILL SOON FORGET !

1 posted on 12/02/2011 1:53:54 PM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Please post their names for me to copy,thanks!


2 posted on 12/02/2011 1:55:46 PM PST by E.K. Crossbow
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To: IbJensen

Chill out on the nonstop caps. It’s hard on the eyes, and irritating.


3 posted on 12/02/2011 1:57:39 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: E.K. Crossbow
It is going to be an awfully short list of seven senators with common sense.

So what's next? A Congressional Medal of Honor for Jerry Sandusky?

4 posted on 12/02/2011 1:58:10 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: IbJensen

I WILL PUT THEIR NAMES OUT THERE, AND CONSTANTLY REMIND THE CON/REPUBLICANS, WHAT OUR LOVELY, CARING REPUBLICAN SENATORS HAD VOTED ON, IN THE MONTH OF CHRISTIAN HOLY, HOLIDAYS.

I like that but from experience, people are very forgiving. Look how they are giving Newt a pass for all his mess ups. I don’t think this will be very successful. The Republicans who passed this (who I don’t know yet) will do something great and all will be forgiven. It is so frustrating!!!!


5 posted on 12/02/2011 1:58:34 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: IbJensen

We have truly stepped through the looking glass here - my head is about to explode.


6 posted on 12/02/2011 1:58:40 PM PST by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: IbJensen
Baa Means No Pictures, Images and Photos
7 posted on 12/02/2011 2:00:54 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: IbJensen
93-7

Similar ratio to Sodom and Gomorah before God's judgement.

8 posted on 12/02/2011 2:02:19 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: IbJensen

I would assume the bestiality was to cover the CIC and Moo!


9 posted on 12/02/2011 2:03:02 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: IbJensen
This is what got repealed:

“(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient
to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall by punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Elements.

(1) That the accused engaged in unnatural carnal copulation with a certain other person or with an animal. (Note: Add either or both of the following elements, if applicable)

(2) That the act was done with a child under the age of 16.

(3) That the act was done by force and without the consent of the other person.

Explanation.

It is unnatural carnal copulation for a person to take into that person’s mouth or anus the sexual organ of another person or of an animal; or to place that person’s sexual organ in the mouth or anus of another person or of an animal; or to have carnal copulation in any opening of the body, except the sexual parts, with another person; or to have carnal copulation with an animal.

Lesser included offenses.

(1) With a child under the age of 16.

(2) Forcible sodomy.

(3) Sodomy.

Maximum punishment.

(1) By force and without consent. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for life without eligibility for parole.

(2) With a child who, at the time of the offense, has attained the age of 12 but is under the age of 16 years. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 20 years.

(3) With a child under the age of 12 years at the time of the offense. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for life without eligibility for parole.

(4) Other cases. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 5 years.

Next Article> Article 126-Arson >

10 posted on 12/02/2011 2:03:38 PM PST by DBrow
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To: IbJensen

Um, we just did this yesterday.


11 posted on 12/02/2011 2:03:49 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: napscoordinator
The Republicans who passed this (who I don’t know yet) will do something great and all will be forgiven. It is so frustrating!!!!

Generally speaking Congresscritters are all slugs. This nation has become a Banana Republic. It's quit worthless to fight the system to only end up with the next slug.

12 posted on 12/02/2011 2:04:01 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: All

US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 2, 2011 at 4:40pm

I do believe our politicians have officially lost their minds.

If they would only step back and let the economy purge and heal itself we might still have a country left. Instead they cram these immoral laws down our throats and regurgitate phrases like “create jobs” of which they can not actually do because for government to create one job it has to take money from the taxpayer, thus realistically the taxpayer created the job because without the money the job would have been impossible to create.

When society deems something appropriate or just as a whole then it will become the standard and way we function as a society, so stop forcing this crap on us!


13 posted on 12/02/2011 2:04:37 PM PST by IbJensen (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: Vigilanteman

America has become the bottomless pit. We are a nation void of morals and standards. The Taliban and other terrorist groups are no worse than what we have become sad to say.


14 posted on 12/02/2011 2:04:41 PM PST by E.K. Crossbow
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To: IbJensen

we are probably just lucky it doesn’t legalize pedophilia... then again the UCMJ makes it a crime to have sex with anyone under 13 I think.or is it 12?

This country is swirling the drain.


15 posted on 12/02/2011 2:05:09 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: IbJensen

Perhaps it is done to accomodate the members of the ROP — we accomodate them everywhere else.


16 posted on 12/02/2011 2:06:12 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Scotsman will be Free

It sure as hell is irritating on the eyes, scotsman!


17 posted on 12/02/2011 2:07:10 PM PST by IbJensen (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: All

Just to clarify, the CURRENT Article 125 equates heterosexual oral sex with bestiality. It DOES need to be updated so that married couples engaging in oral sex are not criminals.


18 posted on 12/02/2011 2:07:37 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: IbJensen; E.K. Crossbow

Those Voting Against:

Tom Harkin
Rand Paul
Tom Coburn
Jeff Merkley
Ron Wyden
Mike Lee
Bernie Sanders


19 posted on 12/02/2011 2:09:43 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Whatdya mean ya got a headache?


20 posted on 12/02/2011 2:17:45 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: IbJensen; All
Folks. Know this.

A tyrant needs an immoral military to stay in power. A military that will kill the innocent, the Christians, the GOOD without question. Make no mistake, this is the WHY of this bill.

21 posted on 12/02/2011 2:18:10 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: IbJensen

You mean all those dogs at the enlisted club were illegal?


22 posted on 12/02/2011 2:20:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: napscoordinator

My Senator James Webb is certainly a fan of bizarre sexual behavior.


23 posted on 12/02/2011 2:21:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: IbJensen

Even if they didn’t notice the part about sodomy, this is ridiculous. 93 Senators voted to remove gay sex from the bill? I don’t give a damn whether or not the Democrat congress reversed Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. It’s time to reverse it again, not time for virtually every Republican in the Senate to go along with it.

And some of those few who voted against the bill may have done so because they didn’t want to vote for defense spending—Bernie Sanders, for instance—and not because of this particular section. He is certainly not a conservative.


24 posted on 12/02/2011 2:23:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: muawiyah

Yes he is. I remember being excited to see him when he came to USNA to give a speech about his new movie that was coming out. That was back in the late 90’s. What a disappointment he turned out to be. He really could have been a great politician if he had some principles. Oh well. One term Senator which means he planned this just to screw the Republicans in 2006. Nasty man.


25 posted on 12/02/2011 2:27:15 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: SENTINEL

93-7

PLEASE tell me you forgot your sarc tag. You can tell me you were just being silly on a Friday Night.....perhaps had a few too many (which I applaud you for). Please!!!!!!!!! I cannot even get my mind around those numbers if you are not kidding.


26 posted on 12/02/2011 2:29:18 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: Scotsman will be Free; IbJensen
As a retired Army First Sergeant, I fully understand and can appreciate the use of CAPs...I too became angry to the point of screaming...

I would be most interested in learning what republicans voted for this, I want to call and holler like a Drill Sergeant, also email their office's, all in CAPs.

27 posted on 12/02/2011 2:30:20 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: napscoordinator
Think percentages, and no I'm not kidding.

If we are nation built on Christianity, and were are, and we believe the biblical account of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, which I do, then we as a nation should be concerned about such an overwhelming vote by our representatives.

28 posted on 12/02/2011 2:33:39 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: billorites

“beat you like a gubmint mule” has a whole new meaning.


29 posted on 12/02/2011 2:34:21 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ...

(( ping ))

I would say, “Pray for America”, but I think it’s too late.
This country has swirled down the toilet.
When I get the names of the traitorous scum who voted for this repeal, I will let you know.


30 posted on 12/02/2011 2:40:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: E.K. Crossbow

The roll call for this vote is listed here. . .

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00218


31 posted on 12/02/2011 2:47:31 PM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: PoloSec

Here’s the list, Top.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00218


32 posted on 12/02/2011 2:58:07 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; lilycicero; bigheadfred

Here’s the list.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00218


33 posted on 12/02/2011 3:00:17 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: IbJensen

I do believe we are in the mist of a war being waged between good and evil in heaven right now. It has been prophesied in the Bible that these things will come to past in the end times and I believe you and I are living in those last days.


34 posted on 12/02/2011 3:07:00 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: smoothsailing; Lancey Howard

Thank you both.

Only 3 Repubs voted against it: Coburn, Lee and Paul.


35 posted on 12/02/2011 3:07:05 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: IbJensen

More evidence, if moer is neede, that the inmates are truly running the aslyum, or asslyumn.


36 posted on 12/02/2011 3:11:50 PM PST by sport
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To: jazusamo

What a nightmare. God Bless our troops.


37 posted on 12/02/2011 3:16:37 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
What a nightmare. God Bless our troops.

Amen!

This is almost unbelievable and I say almost because at times it looks like we have all liberals in the Capital.

38 posted on 12/02/2011 3:21:47 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: IbJensen

It might be time for Congress to actually read and ponder the bills they pass. Just a thought...


39 posted on 12/02/2011 3:24:51 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: IbJensen; Snark
Let's Get This Party Started, Sarge!!!!


40 posted on 12/02/2011 4:14:24 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

I can’t quit ewe!!!


41 posted on 12/02/2011 4:22:57 PM PST by Snark
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To: Erik Latranyi

It DOES in fact...

remind me of a Christmas gift some old Hungarian gave me one year....

Weird.


42 posted on 12/02/2011 4:24:09 PM PST by Snark
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To: Snark
It DOES in fact... remind me of a Christmas gift some old Hungarian gave me one year....

What Hungarian.....George Soros?!

PS: I knew you would appreciate this discussion! :)

43 posted on 12/02/2011 4:27:38 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Noooooo! Please. ... C’mon.

The name escapes me...

It had too many vowels in it though. E’s, y’s, i’s....

Weird guy. His Mom told me about him drinking so much red wine that the snow outside was red in the morning from all the puking.

(Me thinks this post has been hijacked....)


44 posted on 12/02/2011 4:33:49 PM PST by Snark
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To: Snark
Weird guy. His Mom told me about him drinking so much red wine that the snow outside was red in the morning from all the puking.

My mother is a liar!

Yup.....absolutely hijacked.

45 posted on 12/02/2011 4:37:44 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: IbJensen
Aggies will now feel even more at home in the military!

(sorry, I couldn't help it)
46 posted on 12/02/2011 4:43:36 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Erik Latranyi

Your Mother is a Beautiful Woman!!!! And a Saint for raising such offspring as yourself!!!!

You were born with a gun in one hand and a bottle of Merlot in the other!

Then again, I would have it no other way!!!


47 posted on 12/02/2011 4:45:45 PM PST by Snark
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks IbJensen.
...not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals--or bestiality.
That's gotta be good news for sailors about to cross the Equator for the first time aboard a USN vessel.

Why are these galoshes oversized? How did that goat get aboard?
48 posted on 12/02/2011 4:48:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Why are these galoshes oversized? How did that goat get aboard?)
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To: stylecouncilor; windcliff

Jim DeMint voted for this?!?!


49 posted on 12/02/2011 6:04:37 PM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: IbJensen

Excuse me for mangling an old joke.

Soldier Bahney Fwank is deployed in a remote region of Afghanistan, along with some friendly Afghan soldiers. Being bored, he asks the natives what they do for “recreation and fun”, “wink, wink”. The native guy Ahmed points to their horse and says all the guys use her. Next day, Bahney tells the Afghan “thanks, but your horse sure put up a fight when I had my way with her!”. Ahmed says in shock “But sir, the guys ride the horse to the next town where the women are!”.


50 posted on 12/02/2011 7:17:32 PM PST by roadcat
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