Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Keystone XL the 'safest pipeline ever'
Sun News Network ^ | 2011-12-02 | Mark Dunn

Posted on 12/02/2011 3:30:08 PM PST by Clive

OTTAWA -- Republicans turned up the heat on U.S. President Barack Obama on Friday to reverse his decision to delay what was described at a congressional hearing as the safest oil pipeline ever proposed.

A parade of witnesses appeared at a House sub-committee meeting on energy to defend the safety and economic benefits of the Keystone XL pipeline, and to warn of the consequences should it rupture.

And in between partisan sniping between Democrats and Republicans, pipeline junkies learned Alberta-based TransCanada Corp. has adopted 57 additional safety measures, including 21,000 censors linked to satellites to detect problems.

"This is the most technologically advanced and safest pipeline ever proposed," Rep. Ed Whitfield said, noting XL has a censor every 167 meters to monitor pressure, flow rates and to identify leaks.

Republicans introduced legislation in the Senate this week that would force the State Department to issue a permit within 60 days to kick start the project critics say Obama delayed until after next fall's election to keep his environmental base onside and money flowing to his re-election bid.

Alex Pourbaix, TransCanada's president of energy and oil pipelines, reminded lawmakers no other pipeline has gone through as many reviews and as much scrutiny since the oil giant applied for a construction permit 40 months ago.

The $7 billion pipeline would transport 830,000 barrels of crude daily to the Gulf Coast, where specialized refineries process a similar product from Venezuela.

"This has been by far the most exhaustive and detailed review ever conducted of a crude oil pipeline in the U.S.," said Pourbaix.

Representatives from organized labour pitched their support and the need for the 20,000 shovel-ready jobs XL would produce and spinoff work.

Alternative energy producers and a representative from a Nebraska citizens group opposed to the pipeline asked the committee not to rush the project.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; global; oil; prices
TransCanada had originally proposed several alternative routes and expressed a preference for a route that would detour around the Ogallala Aquifer tha is the subject of so much polical angst.

It was the United States, not TransCanada that chose the direct route. Its grounds appear to have been that it was shorter and so involved less real estate and that it crossed fewer rivers.

1 posted on 12/02/2011 3:30:11 PM PST by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

-


2 posted on 12/02/2011 3:30:45 PM PST by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clive

Keystone XL = a very large can (24oz) of Beer?


3 posted on 12/02/2011 3:34:42 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Clive

Keep the heat on Obama over this pipeline. Shove those words about “shovel ready jobs” down his lying throat.


4 posted on 12/02/2011 3:35:05 PM PST by Rooivalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clive

21,000 CENSORS? What is it? A guvmint pipeline?


5 posted on 12/02/2011 3:35:37 PM PST by StAntKnee (I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up from this dream theatre of the absurd.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Clive

What the hell is wrong with Democrats? have they all lost their minds.

Can they really be this loyal to the POS in the White House.

20,000 jobs, Energy independence from the Middle east.
This is a Nationa Security decision in my mind.

What possible reason can they offer for not wanting this pipeline, other than to give more money to the alterniative energy producers who have already made many of them rich.

We need a Republican President bad, but we need a Repoublican House and Senate even more. A House and senate filled with Real Republicans, not the RINO’s that fill those slots now.


6 posted on 12/02/2011 3:36:30 PM PST by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clive
Keystone XL the 'safest pipeline ever'

"... and the Titanic is 'unsinkable'."

Personally, yes, keep up the pressure on ODrama. we want and need this for many good reasons.Just don't jinx it.

7 posted on 12/02/2011 3:39:05 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Venturer

This whole sordid display is proof positive that BOZ is bent on destroying America from within..


8 posted on 12/02/2011 3:45:41 PM PST by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Clive

Reroute it to avoid the aquifer and Nebraska.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 3:53:47 PM PST by Ingtar (Newt (four more for Obama) & Mitt (Obamacare) - what wonderful choices!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clive
The Envirofreaks could not care less about the pipeline and know it can't hurt the aquifer. They simply don't want any oil sand development. They don't care about American energy independence. They hate America, Americans and human beings in general.

Somehow in those weird things they call brains, they'd rather see the oil go to China if oil sand development continues without the U.S. pipeline. These people are not sane.

10 posted on 12/02/2011 3:59:31 PM PST by Bernard Marx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clive
"...since the oil giant applied for a construction permit 40 months ago..."

40 Months.

This.
Is.
Insane.

11 posted on 12/02/2011 4:01:14 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clive
"... that would detour around the Ogallala Aquifer..."

Seriously, though...does anyone even think if they DID make that detour, that the opponents would smile broadly and say "Oh, well then...we are fine with it!"

If the pipe goes over a creek where the Obsidian Striped Borer Beetle lives, that would be the next obstacle. Detour around that...

It will never end. These people are determined to ruin us.

12 posted on 12/02/2011 4:04:58 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bernard Marx

EXACTLY. Well said.


13 posted on 12/02/2011 4:05:34 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Shady

Bamster is paying off his college loans by blocking a pipeline that would lessen Arab political clout. The Saudis do not want anything that would reduce the price of oil. Those palaces are expensive.


14 posted on 12/02/2011 4:07:31 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: StAntKnee

21,000 CENSORS?

Methinks that would have the opposite effect of 21,000 sensors.


15 posted on 12/02/2011 4:08:28 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Bernard Marx

Oil sands exploitation will continue and the oil will go to China. Bank on it.


16 posted on 12/02/2011 4:11:36 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Clive
Either way it is scientifically irrelevant since the Ogallala is hundreds of feet below ground, and over-lain by an impervious layer of calcified clay. Keystone XL is a pure, 100% political exercise in psychopathic power.
17 posted on 12/02/2011 4:33:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clive

“The $7 billion pipeline would transport 830,000 barrels of crude daily to the Gulf Coast, where specialized refineries process a similar product from Venezuela.”

I support the pipeline, but I have to wonder.
Maybe, just maybe, it would make more sense to build a refinery closer to the source?
Short pipeline, new refinery, for the WIN.

Gulf Coast is prone to shutdown due to severe weather, it might make sense to put a refinery or two quite a bit further inland.

NE U.S. still uses a lot of heating oil, a nearby refinery might cut transport cost.

Of course the NIMBY’s and eco-nuts have prevented any new refinery being built for decades.
Maybe the pipe line would be less offensive to them than a new refinery?

Of course we all know the real eco-nut goal is to destroy our way of life by denying us any new source of oil/energy.


18 posted on 12/02/2011 5:01:25 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian
I'm sure you're right and it drives me crazy! As long as the wingnuts control our political and economic decisions this country is headed for disaster.
19 posted on 12/02/2011 5:09:59 PM PST by Bernard Marx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Loyal Sedition
"... it would make more sense to build a refinery closer to the source?"

I think there is at least one refinery in Kansas already gearing up to take advantage of this line.

20 posted on 12/02/2011 5:21:20 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Loyal Sedition
Loyal Sedition wrote:
"Maybe, just maybe, it would make more sense to build a refinery closer to the source?"
D'accord.

How about Turner Valley.


21 posted on 12/02/2011 8:26:07 PM PST by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Clive

I have no idea where that is, but it’s fine by me.

Good luck with the NIMBY’s.


22 posted on 12/02/2011 11:44:50 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Clive
The $7 billion pipeline would transport 830,000 barrels of crude daily to the Gulf Coast, where specialized refineries process a similar product from Venezuela.

If the Canadians stepped up production, that might leave little Hugo with less refining capacity needed here for those refineries. Can't be messing with 'bammy's homies, now.

23 posted on 12/03/2011 12:08:50 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Clive
...including 21,000 censors linked to satellites...

Good. Keep those censors (sensors?) busy so the news can get out!

24 posted on 12/03/2011 12:10:00 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ronin
Bamster is paying off his college loans...

And here I thought he rode in on a Fulbright...

25 posted on 12/03/2011 12:12:35 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Loyal Sedition

Turner Valley is in Alberta.


26 posted on 12/03/2011 4:23:27 AM PST by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Bernard Marx
Your country is in the midst of a full fledged disaster. That pipeline was, literally, shovel ready. The land was purchased and the pipe was stored along the route, ready to go.

Canada would much prefer to sell that oil to our best ally, neighbor, and trading partner. It would make the US stronger and more prosperous, and that's good for Canada. The US doesn't want that secure supply of oil. Read that sentence again.

At $100 a barrel the tar sands will be exploited. That oil will go to market. If the US doesn't want it, there is a large Asian nation that does, and that deal is already in the works.

27 posted on 12/03/2011 5:22:37 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian
Americans have allowed certified crazy people to take over our economic policy. They have such a choke-hold on any type of fossil fuel development they are literally returning our country to a primitive state.

I am increasingly of the opinion that normal elective procedures cannot heal what ails the U.S. The sickness is too serious and it has metastasized into every part of our body politic. It must be surgically rooted out, the sooner the better.

Ironically much of the inspiration for U.S. "green" anti-development comes from Canadian Maurice Strong, the evil genius behind the U.N.'s Agenda 21.

28 posted on 12/03/2011 8:45:31 AM PST by Bernard Marx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Bernard Marx
Mr. Strong is an embarrassment to Canada, believe me.

I greatly admire the form of government the founders of your nation devised. Unfortunately several legislative and judicial decisions in the 20th century have eroded the republican form of government to the extent that the country seems ungovernable.

A return to actual form of government outlined in the constitution would rectify today's problems.

29 posted on 12/03/2011 9:28:45 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian
A return to actual form of government outlined in the constitution would rectify today's problems.

That is essentially impossible given the deliberate subversion of our political processes and institutions. Our form of government requires a moral people and Americans are very far lost into decadence.

Read "The Shadow Party" by David Horowitz and Richard Poe to learn how corrupted our institutions have become. The book was published in 2006 and matters have become far worse with the election of Obama and his radical henchmen. America is locked in the throes of a quiet but deadly revolution.

30 posted on 12/03/2011 1:01:12 PM PST by Bernard Marx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Bernard Marx
I tend to be more optimistic, even at this late date. The ability to turn back to a constitutional government rests in the hands of the people. What is needed is the election of a president who will appoint judges to uphold the constitution, and the election of senators who will approve those nominations.

Imagine nine Clarence Thomas's or Scalias on the court. Imagine judges of their ilk in the majority of all the appeals and circuit courts. The return to a constitutional republic would be swift and dramatic.

31 posted on 12/03/2011 1:39:24 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian

Has there EVER been a major oil disaster on land?

Even when SoDamn HInsane blew up all the wells in Kuwait on the way out there was no big deal

Only on water shipping or drilling


32 posted on 12/03/2011 1:42:29 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian
The ability to turn back to a constitutional government rests in the hands of the people.

And that's why I brought up the subject of American decadence. About 50% of Americans have been conditioned to expect the government to provide for them. The idiots who are against the pipeline probably never took a science or economics class and have the fuzzy wrong-headed notion that "green" energy can provide for all our needs.

I'm afraid I no longer have faith that an immature, selfish, dumbed-down, popular culture-saturated "people" have the intelligence or the will to solve America's problems. The next election will tell all.

33 posted on 12/03/2011 2:06:57 PM PST by Bernard Marx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Bernard Marx
I agree that most people don't have the faintest notion about economics, science, or politics.

For the first time in too many years Canada has a majority Conservative government. There is no country I would rather reside in as this storm gathers.

34 posted on 12/03/2011 6:25:25 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Clive

The enviro-wackos want us all living in grass huts like Obama’s half brother in Kenya living on $15 per year.


35 posted on 12/03/2011 6:28:43 PM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-Sting)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian
For the first time in too many years Canada has a majority Conservative government. There is no country I would rather reside in as this storm gathers.

You are well situated. Bottom line is that Canada and Australia have 30 million population each and are pro-extraction of natural resources. You can sell your oil, coal and minerals on world markets (China). This wealth gets spread around (one way or another) 30 million instead of 300 million what we have in America (USA)

_Plus your banking system is sound. No crazy mortgage/Wall Street rip-off machine like we had in America

36 posted on 12/03/2011 6:37:41 PM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-Sting)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: dennisw
Yes, I know.

It is a lot harder to govern 300 million, 10 times harder, in fact.

Do not discount the advantage of a conservative (common sense) government and leadership. PM Harper knows the Kyoto treaty is garbage. He knows that exploiting the tar sands means wealth and prosperity for Canada. He knows a good working relationship with our strongest ally is vital. He knows the "gun registry" won't stop a single crime.

The problem, on both sides of the border, is that the electorate occasionally lose their common sense and vote for the snake oil salesman who wants to use other people's money to buy votes. These are all conservative/common sense positions.

37 posted on 12/04/2011 4:44:58 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson