Posted on 12/02/2011 5:03:19 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
“I know the rumors you’re talking about. That was a weird time...I was surprised when Paxon and Molinari left the scene so quickly.”
How quickly everyone has forgotten most everything though. When everyone was trying to figure out why a promising young journalist with extraordinary connections had killed himself, there were some who pointed to the power-hungry group run by Newt for outing Sandy Hume and Paxon. Everything was hushed up thanks to the respect for Hume family. It makes you wonder who really started all the information flow about Herman Cain, doesn’t it? Oh well, we can’t really control anything anyway. Maybe Guy Molinari will speak out a little more.
Part of me would love to be hanging around with some some top dem guys like Carville, Axelrod, Begala, etc... as they’ve seen Newt break from the pack.
I’m sure the dems will love to play the video of Boehner, acting as Newt’s bagman, admitting he passed out bribes on the house floor from tobacco lobbyists right before key votes. And wouldn’t you know it, Newt is still taking money from all these groups, but he’s not lobbying or anything. No. Never. He’s just a history professor from some small college in Georgia.
He actually told Hannity that it didn’t matter if they paid him because he already thought that way or agreed with them. Imagine if Ben Nelson said after the Cornhusker Kickback, “Look, that didn’t matter, I was already in favor of Obamacare”.
Newt may actually be the one person more loathed by the dems and the media and more likely to cause them to dow whatever it takes to finish him off then Gov Palin.
Newt has a lot of gifts, but also a lot of flaws. Maybe Obama will be bad enough that anyone will beat him. This is really a test if you will. If none of the current GOP field is politically savvy enough to beat Newt lets face it, there’s no way they were ever going to come close to Obama.
I really don’t have any clear sense about who did what or what rumors were true as far as the Hume stuff. But there sure were some strange things happening.
Sigh.
“Gotta admit that this turn of events with Newt coming along to rock the Rino boat again is kinda funny. :)”
Except that Newt is ON the RINO boat. That makes it a lot less funny, because he showed after his election to the Speakership that he’s one of them, not agin’ ‘em.
Newt gave us the contract with America and he managed to pass some of it while surrounded by rinos and with Clinton as President. He reformed welfare. Liberals screeched hate at him; it was “racist” to reform welfare. He helped turn back the left’s race and sex discrimination scheme against white males which was getting really bad at that point. He turned back massive taxation (wealth transfer) schemes that were in place. He defunded the race baiters and feminazis. He helped Reagan with his plan in defeating communism. He was one of the most effective reformers in Congress we have seen. The Rinos HATED him and still do.
At the time he came along, most had not even heard conservative ideas and voice. Newt stayed on the house floor after hours and spoke to an empty chamber with C-SPaN cameras rolling so people could tune in and they did. He influenced a lot of Americans away from socialism.
He’s not perfect. No one is. But it is wrong to name him a total loser.
look at it this way, if unemployment keeps dropping and starts getting closer to 8% or below(which given the Obama admin controls the Dept of Labor I have no doubt it will, none of these folks will beat Obama anyway.
I’m continually amazed by the amount of people on our side who don’t realize how popular Obama is. I guess it’s the old echo chamber.(That’s why most of the big names on our side didn’t run I believe, they know 2016 is a much better shot against someone like Biden, Cuomo in NY, Warner in VA, whoever)
Obama won 70 million votes last time. 70 million. He gets 95% of the black vote and 65% of the hispanic vote just by showing up. He has more media support than any other candidate in history. He has more money than any other candidate in history(by a large margin).
Even at the depths of his unpopularity and the bad economy he never really dipped below 42 or 43% in apporval rating on the avg. Consider that W spent his entire 2nd term close to 30% and was around 25% by the time of the 2008 election. So, no mattter how unpopular Obama is, he’s still almost 20 pts more popular than W was.
He has all the Kerry/Gore states locked up already. Basically he needs one of OH/FL or 2 of VA/NC/IN/CO/NV/NM/IA to win.
And he hasn’t even started to campaign yet, really.
From 1980-88 the GOP went 17/17 in CA/PA/IL/MI/NJ/NY, losing only NY in 88. From 92-08 they’re 0/30, and highly likely to be 0/36 come November of next year. I don’t know how to explain that or what happened, but 6 straight winless cycles after 3 straight undefeated cycles in all those states have to mean something.
I wish it weren’t the case, but it looks like the economy is going to improve enough for him. Of course, lots of things can still happen. Maybe it’ll go back up to 9% instead of dipping below 8%. Maybe he just totally falls apart like Carter did.
If Newt beats Obama, anybody would have beaten him. No one in politics can ever be said again to be unelectable. Axelrod shoud retire if he can’t win that race. Of course it also shows the weakness of the current field that Newt is doing so well. No one stepped up and he was the only one left.
But, as a politics junkie, watching Newt and Obama go at it would at least be fun and interesting. At least Newt will make the conservative case better than anyone else. At least there’s a chance Newt may embarrass Obama at a debate and chnage everything. Can’t say the same for Romney. If we’re going to lose, may as well have some fun.
The bottom line is, the American people were stupid enough to vote for the Gay, Kenyan, Muslim Marxist the first time, they’re stupid enough to vote for him again.
I hear ya, but I’m not there yet. I have true concerns about Gingrich, enough to make me probably not vote for him in the primaries at least. In the general, I will vote for the GOP nominee.
I agree with you that Obama is not out of it at this point, not by a long shot.
One thing that will work in Obama’s favor is that if Newt becomes the nominee, and as that process unfolds, he seems to be continually sapping the life out of the Tea Party mentality.
At least when Herman Cain was the frontrunner we were having heated and fruitful discussions comparing ideas of MASSIVE TAX REFORM!
What have we talked about since Gingrich got a shot because of Cain’s stumbles? Gingrich’s baggage, trying to explain Gingrich’s statements (on amnesty, etc.), kids as janitors, debates with teleprompters and so on. Vintage Gingrich — all over the map and, in the big picture, so far signifying nothing.
Any candidate who is not focused on MASSIVE TAX REFORM (because that is inextricably intertwined with entitlement reform as well) is just not serious about solving our nation’s problems.
Moreover, without this focus on stopping spending and cutting taxes, the whole fervor of the organic reform movement known as the Tea Party flickers out. What are we left we? Business as usual in Washington.
We can’t survive more business as usual in Washington, I don’t think. If our next President cannot INSPIRE conservatives, we’re done. Because conservatives are the only people focused on saving the country.
Gingrich tends to demoralize and splinter conservatives, not inspire them — always has. I hope he’s changed, but I don’t see any real evidence that he has.
I fear we’ve already lost our moment for building the necessary grassroots support for massive tax reform. Many people seem to be willing to say, Oh, Newt’ll fix it, you know, some smart way that he’ll explain to us later.
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