Posted on 12/02/2011 9:27:37 PM PST by semaj
Fellow entrepreneurs, Americans, anyone who still cares about this country at all – this is a must read.
By the end of next week, the US government very likely will have the power to lock up US citizens for life at Guantanamo Bay or other military prisons -- without charge and without trial.
This means that, in the near future, a controversial Twitter post, attending a peaceful protest, or publishing an anti-Congress critique or anti-TSA rant on Google+ could land you "indefinite detention" for life, in the wording of the bill. No access to a lawyer, no access to trial.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-new-national-defense-authorization-act-is-ridiculously-scary-2011-11#ixzz1fRgiFbKt
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
It is time, and the only question I have is; are there any Americans left?
Are there going to be enough Americans left?
Relax, when Bush was in office, most folks here would be all for it....
Thanks for putting everyting in perspective, not.
The problem with that rationale is the supposition that FReepers generally trust Obama.
And this has changed “reality”, how ? The USG has had - dating back to the Thirties - these “powers” ! >PS
I suggest everyone do some research into what Andrew McCarthy is saying about this....I don’t think this is what people MAY think it is.
The House did not pass this. The Senate did.
Hmmmm
3 hots and a cot
free cable
conjugal visits
Another scary thing is that Levin (D) and McCain (R) put this together in secret without hearings and the Senate voted to accept it (SB 1867).
Care to explain your cryptic comments, or are you the coward I presume you to be?
I am not concerned as to what it might be, but what it might become, that is to say free license to round up and imprison dissenters without due process. Right now it appears to be targeted only to known terrorist actively engaged in plotting and carryikng out attacks against our armed forces. If the US is now to be designated a battlefield, why have we not sealed our borders and rounded up and interred every last potential jihadi?
indefinite .....THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS. IT SHOULD BE 5 YEARS MAX. IT GOES AGAINST THE 6TH AMENDMENT.
I basically don’t like this, but I have a mixed reaction. For years we have been handing out US “citizenship” like prizes in a Cracker Jack box.
For a lot of these “citizens” swept into the country, citizenship means nothing more than a whack at the pinata. So when they are rounded up, I feel no grief.
However, I was recently X-rayed at the airport, after which I was patted down. So I can easily imagine what lies ahead for us all.
“Care to explain your cryptic comments, or are you the coward I presume you to be?”
Geez, I took it as a sarcastic dig at the treatmrnt REAL enemies of this nation are accorded.
What makes you think this will be used to control illegals? Being illegal, I can assume the current folks in power would make them exempt - only real citizens will be targetted.
The house passed its own version ... they are now reconciling the TWO bills.
I read yesterday that Rand Paul got this defeated in the Senate did something change?
And you can bet the farm that the reconciled Bill will not be good for us. “For us” being those that love and appreciate the freedoms we have and want to make our own decisions on how we live our lives. “Us” also includes those who desire that the Government only perform its God ordained responsibilities, [to wit] The protection of its citizens from criminals ahd other agressor Nations.
I thought Rand Paul stopped it.
Me too. Except omona forgot to add daily prison rape to the list.
Prediction:
Riots in USA Sept.thru Nov. 2011
National Martial Law invoked by POTUS
Suspension of Nov. 2012 election
Post 22
CORRECTION ,,,,, Sept. thru Nov. 2012
>>Relax,<<
Unfortunately, this is how we got to this point. Too many not paying attention.
Over the last couple of decades, we’ve seen an alarming erosion of personal liberty in this country.
Our government is too big, too expensive, too intrusive and too controlling.
Sen. Rand Paul prevented the passage of an amendment that would have further eroded Americans’ constitutional rights. Offered to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal 2012 (S.1867), amendment No. 1274 would have allowed the U.S. government to detain an American citizen indefinitely, even after they had been tried and found not guilty, until Congress declares an end to the war on terror.
“Suspicion of committing a crime should lead to your attempted prosecution. If the evidence does not support conviction, it would be against everything we believe in and fight for in America to still allow the government to imprison you at their whim,” Sen. Paul said. “Tonight, a blow was struck to fight back against those who would take our liberty.”
The amendment would have passed by voice vote, but this tactic was blocked by Sen. Paul’s objection. He then forced a roll call vote, in which the amendment was defeated, 41-59.
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2011/12/senator-paul-statement-on-defeat-of-detainee-amendment/
I agree with everything you said! And, that’s always the rub...the FUTURE.
Relax, when Bush was in office, most folks here would be all for it....
Careful FRiend. I get in trouble for any criticism of W. I got in trouble yesterday.
Too funny.
I’ll remember to put the little smiley face at the end next time ! Or would it be the sarc tag....
Oh well, I’ll do better next time !
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