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Is It Over for Lady Gaga?
Townhall,com ^ | December 3, 2011 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 12/03/2011 5:09:35 AM PST by Kaslin

A few months ago in this space, I wrote a column about the cultural phenom Lady Gaga that ended with my politely telling her to save her money. That's because the treacherous world of popular culture is not usually a long-term proposition. Entertainment idols often pass through the fame obstacle course very quickly.

In show biz, "jumping the shark" is a term used to describe a project in decline. It is derived from the hit sitcom "Happy Days," which, sorely lacking for material after years on the air, featured a show whereby The Fonz went waterskiing in a leather jacket and encountered a shark. You guessed it: The Fonz jumped over the shark on his skis. After that, the days were not so happy on that program.

Now we have Lady Gaga, the ultimate edgy, anti-establishment pop star, swimming in dubious waters. Recently, she fronted a Thanksgiving special. The New York Times described it this way: "Lady Gaga performs before family and friends and offers a glimpse of her personal life in an interview with Katie Couric... She also whips up a feast of deep-fried turkey and waffles with the chef Art Smith."

Somewhere Janis Joplin is weeping. By the way, Gaga's special was trounced in the ratings by the 237th airing of "A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving."

And that's not all. The Associated Press reports that "Gaga's Workshop" is now open at the Barneys clothing store in Manhattan. Apparently, Gaga designed a special holiday shop featuring "a gigantic cartoon statue of the superstar herself in a pinup pose surrounded by jagged mirrors and sitting atop thousands of back plastic discs."

Forget the Rockefeller Center tree, the Gaga shop represents the true holiday spirit, does it not?

Some of you may think I am making this up, but it's all true. What I can't figure out is why Gaga's (Stefani Germanotta) management team seems to know nothing about history. Elvis Presley, the biggest pop icon ever, sabotaged his own career by starring in a series of movies like "Kissin' Cousins" and "Clambake." I mean, there was the once culturally dangerous Elvis doing a dance called the "Clam" on a beach wearing black shoes and white pants. It took the King years to get back on track after those dopey flicks.

Last year, Gaga made $90 million from her songs and shows. Does she really need the Thanksgiving special? Or the Barneys exposure? Really?

The answer, of course, is no. Gaga has now gone middle-class mainstream and, at this rate, will be co-hosting with Kelly Ripa any day now. The lady may be trying not to be a tramp, but she certainly has met the shark -- and jumped it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; default; goaway; italy; ladygaga; makeitstop
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1 posted on 12/03/2011 5:09:38 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Not much else going on in the world, eh?


2 posted on 12/03/2011 5:15:15 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Kaslin
In about 1977, the music group The Band decided to break up. Their last concert was filmed by Martin Scorsese and became the film The Last Waltz. At the time, band leader Robbie Robertson explained that The Band had been together for fifteen years. An eternity! Fifteen Years! He just couldn't imagine doing that gig for much longer than that, so they called it quits.

At the time, the Rolling Stones had been together for roughly 15 years. Now, here we are 35 years later, and the Stones are still together, and are considering a possible tour. Perhaps The Band could have stuck it out longer. (In fact, there have been reunions of different sorts over the years.)

Today's musical people? Lady Gaga? Justin Beiber? Their half life is measured in months.

3 posted on 12/03/2011 5:18:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Roll the stone away, Let the guilty pay, It's Independence Day)
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To: Kaslin

This is funny. Who’s writing for Bill these days?


4 posted on 12/03/2011 5:19:33 AM PST by golux
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To: Notwithstanding

“Lady Gaga, the ultimate edgy, anti-establishment pop star”

Bill O’Reilly wrote that? Bill O’Reilly must be clueless.

Lady Gaga is the creation of Jimmy Iovine. Jimmy Iovine likes to hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype and hype marginally talented acts, spending millions and millions of dollars.

None of that is edgy or anti-establishment.


5 posted on 12/03/2011 5:19:46 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Kaslin

Crap!!

I totally missed the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving special.


6 posted on 12/03/2011 5:20:40 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Notwithstanding

is “getting Gaga-ed” synonymous with “jumped the shark”?


7 posted on 12/03/2011 5:21:28 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Kaslin

” at this rate, will be co-hosting with Kelly Ripa any day now”

Nah, but I’ll bet Barbara Walters & the producers for The View have their eye on her.


8 posted on 12/03/2011 5:22:26 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: VanDeKoik

“I totally missed the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving special.”

Me 2, but I think the Charlie Brown Christmas is airing this Monday night. (check your tv listings)


9 posted on 12/03/2011 5:24:12 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Kaslin
Somewhere Janis Joplin is weeping.

Janis Joplin was weeping long before Lady G's turkey special. Long before. Hard to believe the writer would even use the two names in the same article.
10 posted on 12/03/2011 5:24:29 AM PST by Shannon
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To: Kaslin

Bill O’Reilly should stick to politics.


11 posted on 12/03/2011 5:28:00 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Notwithstanding

Yeah, me too.

Coincidentally, I was just sitting here wondering what was going on with this Gaga person. Glad he/she cleared that up for me.

That said, I was impressed that the author takes this stuff so seriously.

Oh well, back to writing about something that really matters, my hard hitting expose’ on what *I* think Justin Beiber should or should not do with *his* career.


12 posted on 12/03/2011 5:28:10 AM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: WashingtonSource

>> Bill O’Reilly should stick to politics. >>
Really? Have you heard Ted Baxter on politics lately?

Maybe weather? Traffic reports?


13 posted on 12/03/2011 5:32:24 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Kaslin
"Elvis Presley, the biggest pop icon ever, sabotaged his own career by starring in a series of movies like "Kissin' Cousins" and "Clambake." I mean, there was the once culturally dangerous Elvis doing a dance called the "Clam" on a beach wearing black shoes and white pants. It took the King years to get back on track after those dopey flicks."

Dear BoRass, stick to what little you know, like phone sex, and drop the pop history lesson ... The Colonel forced Elvis into bad movies before and after the '68 Comeback Special. In fact, the Colonel approved the Special solely to re-boost Elvis' movie salary demands. And Clambake was only a year earlier!

14 posted on 12/03/2011 5:33:12 AM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Kaslin

Wow, Billy O wrote, ahem, put his name on this!?

I just automatically assumed it was some homo twit from the Village. Hunh?..surprised me...wonder why?


15 posted on 12/03/2011 5:35:45 AM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Kaslin

Myself, I’ve been wondering what’s up with JLo and all of these commercials, cars, hair products, and her clothing line at Kohls...has her other revenue streams dried up that much or is she just trying to capitalize before it’s too late? Did calling Sarah Palin a Bi*** have an impact on her career? I know I emailed Kohl’s when they brought her clothing line in and asked if she had apologized to Sarah...didn’t get an answer.


16 posted on 12/03/2011 5:36:03 AM PST by TiredofItalltoo (tiredofitalltoo)
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To: golux

*rme*


17 posted on 12/03/2011 5:36:42 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ClearCase_guy
They are all up against Youtube. In fact we will shortly be posting some new videos about the lives of the saints, how the Dark Ages really were, and, of course, THE END OF THE WORLD (as anybody knows it).

Seriously!

Watch this space

GAGA ain't got nothin'.

18 posted on 12/03/2011 5:38:38 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

BOR is sickly obsessed with Lady Gaga!


19 posted on 12/03/2011 5:43:11 AM PST by melancholy (0b0z0's '12 campaign slogan: Read My Lips, Nooo...Newwww...Joooobs.)
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To: Kaslin

See Weird Al Yankovic’s grammy nominated video “Perform This Way”. It says it all about Lady Gaga.

I gave up on pop culture YEARS ago, once I realized that any famous person would soon be the topic of a Where Are They Now question!


20 posted on 12/03/2011 5:44:42 AM PST by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: nuconvert

It’s on ABC 7pm CST 8pm EST


21 posted on 12/03/2011 5:45:03 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
IF (if I knew how to do it, I would make that a BIG if), Lady Gaga ever wanted to, she could always lose all the goofy outfits, wigs, & make up, and just sit down at her piano and sing.

She is a very pretty young lady, an accomplished musician, and has a fantastic voice. She actually doesn't need all that glitz. She is a VERY talented young lady. (When she's not a man).

22 posted on 12/03/2011 5:48:31 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Kaslin

Lady Gaga wants to be Madonna, who wanted to be Marilyn Monroe, and each time it loses something in translation.


23 posted on 12/03/2011 5:49:42 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Kaslin

Having to explain a phrase every time it’s used is a good sign it’s a lousy phrase.


24 posted on 12/03/2011 5:57:17 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Moonmad27

Excellent point


25 posted on 12/03/2011 5:58:10 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Why do we care about Lady Gaga? Anybody? Anybody?


26 posted on 12/03/2011 5:58:28 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: Kaslin

She is just another pervert pushing her disgusting lifestyle on America.


27 posted on 12/03/2011 6:01:59 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: Kaslin

Jumped the shark or humped the shark?


28 posted on 12/03/2011 6:02:10 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Kaslin

“Lady Gaga, the ultimate edgy, anti-establishment pop star...”

I disagree. Lady Gaga is part of the liberal establishment that dominates our culture—fashion, media, music, education, etc....

Everything about her is 100% establishment.


29 posted on 12/03/2011 6:02:20 AM PST by Nickname
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To: Kaslin

A Freeper essay from several months ago
Read about good and evil and GaGa failure about 2/3 of the way down.

American Idol Retrospective May 27 2011

So there we have it, Scottie won, Lauren followed in second place. Both seem to be the epitome of American youth. Good solid, wholesome products of flyover country. .Youth because they are still kids by anybody’s description.
I have watched the process as one who knows nothing about popular music or musicians or the processes involved. I have relied on the good Freepers on this thread for insight and guidance into the various vocal and recordings involved. My observations were thus assisted by a running commentary from knowledgeable folks.
I have written an essay posted on other threads to Freepers who consider Idol and Idol watchers a lower breed of human kind. Idol must be taken as a whole. Idol is a contest, a process that transforms a very nervous singer ,or even non singer, into a polished and experienced performer. Ambition, talent, guts, drive and a host of characteristics must be tightly foscused to succeed and especially to win. This year especially, the winnowed Hollywood group had many very good and capable singers.

All along the way there is fantastic opportunity. The opportunities are without measure and available no where else in any other field of endeavor.
This is Free Republic and it is appropriate to note the top two, both of whom are winners in my book, have a wholesome, conservativeish air about them. Scotty in particular is a North Carolina boy, goes to high school, participated in Baseball I think but most importantly, he sang in a Glee Club. He is a member of what seems to be an all American Nuclear family, church going. He, and also Lauren represent that which is good. He not only represents strong American Values, he is an outstanding example to be observed and followed.
We can thus equate conservativeish with good.
This year especially in the finale, the full spectrum of liberal propaganda and liberal disregard for things that are good and wholesome was blatantly displayed. It was apparent early on when the worn out old Steven Tyler was admitted to the judge’s table. He is an icon, a very knowledgeable person to absorb what is happening and make a judgment. It seemed to me that he was uncomfortable being old and went out of his way to make outrageous remarks. He came off as a rude, crude past his prime buffoon.
The full force of the liberal propaganda weaponry was brought to bear in the finale. Lady Gaga and Beyonce went out of their way to make the most outrageous statements of no boundaries, all is except able, no manners, crude, despicable behavior. Pure evil was on display.

It might be argued that the edge of the entertainment industry is a force of evil. That would certainly be the view of many family values conservatives of the Muslim faith. The Idol finale evil elements are the reason America is the Great Satan. America. Hollywood in particular are is the centroid of the evil there for all to see and idolize.

Although there were others, and some pretenders, It boiled down to James. James represented the evil. James became the evil hope.
Thus as the contest wound down, as hundreds of thousands voted perhaps hundreds or perhaps even thousands of times it became apparent that evil was out. America voted it out. America voted for Scotty and Lauren in mind boggling numbers. The final tally was I believe 120 million votes. We can know with certainty that 120 million souls did not vote. An unknown number of dedicated committed vans voted multiple times to assure the point was made……we like that which is good, that which represents American values, the real values not those constantly hyped by the industry.

So to sum it up, Evil lost. Good won


30 posted on 12/03/2011 6:03:31 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: faucetman
“(When she's not a man).”

I know very little about her fortunately.
Is/was she a man?

31 posted on 12/03/2011 6:04:07 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Kaslin

Thanks


32 posted on 12/03/2011 6:04:12 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: ClearCase_guy
You're comparing apples and oranges. Sure, the Stones are still rocking, but how many novelty acts of that era have moved on and are now retired realtors with grandchildren? Napoleon XIV, or the Archies, or the Classics IV?

Lady Gaga is a fad, and I'd wager that she and the folks around her know it. I reach the opposite conclusion from the Townhall writer -- by going mainstream and mid-market, they're milking the phenomenon for all they can grab on the way down. Can't blame them.

But for all the silliness, at the middle of it is a young woman with genuine talent; see this pre-Gaga video. Listening to that song, I hope that when the Gaga fad has burned out, when she's financially set for life, she'll record an album I would actually consider buying.

33 posted on 12/03/2011 6:05:51 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ClearCase_guy

New song by Leonard Cohen:

http://www.leonardcohen.com/us/oldideas


34 posted on 12/03/2011 6:10:52 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: Kaslin

I always wondered where the term “jumped the shark” came from.


35 posted on 12/03/2011 6:12:17 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Kaslin

Call me crazy, (you wouldn’t be the first,) but if you take away the meat dress, the outrageous makeup, and over-the-top antics, I think Lady Gaga still has a decent voice.

She could easily settle down into a long musical career ala Madonna.

Or not.


36 posted on 12/03/2011 6:16:43 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Moonmad27
The great thing about Weird Al, is that he has lasted so long by spoofing the very medium he works in.

And he does it in such a way that even those he mocks laugh at it.

37 posted on 12/03/2011 6:17:41 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Nickname
I disagree. Lady Gaga is part of the liberal establishment that dominates our culture—fashion, media, music, education, etc....

Everything about her is 100% establishment

Exactly right.

38 posted on 12/03/2011 6:17:54 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: faucetman
She is a very pretty young lady, an accomplished musician, and has a fantastic voice. She actually doesn't need all that glitz. She is a VERY talented young lady.

Well, the pretty. . I don't know. . .maybe if you hold her at a certain angle you can get pretty. . .but, no doubt, the gal's got some pipes and I wholeheartedly agree. . if she would lose all the fluff, all the decadence and just sit at the piano and explore her God-given talents, which are considerable. . .I might watch.

39 posted on 12/03/2011 6:19:35 AM PST by McBuff
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To: ReignOfError

You go to far when you mock The Archies! Rolling Stone Magazine listed SUGAR SUGAR as the best song of all time! Remember the Rolling Stone’s ScooterChair Tour a couple of years ago when Archie got up on stage with Mick? They rocked the house, man.


40 posted on 12/03/2011 6:20:22 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: WashingtonSource
Bill O’Reilly should stick to politics.

I actually think he is better at this sort of tabloid trash than politics. Remember him saying just a few short weeks ago the Newt didn't stand a chance?

41 posted on 12/03/2011 6:20:22 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Ditter
I always wondered where the term “jumped the shark” came from.

"Ehhhhhhhh!"


42 posted on 12/03/2011 6:20:46 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

We never watched that show on a regular basis. thanks.


43 posted on 12/03/2011 6:24:08 AM PST by Ditter
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To: ClearCase_guy
In about 1977, the music group The Band decided to break up. Their last concert was filmed by Martin Scorsese and became the film The Last Waltz. At the time, band leader Robbie Robertson explained that The Band had been together for fifteen years. An eternity! Fifteen Years! He just couldn't imagine doing that gig for much longer than that, so they called it quits.

That's not the complete story. Robertson did quit for a solo career, but the rest reformed and toured from 1983 to 1983 in smaller venues. Richard Manuel committed suicide that final year, and the group later played at various special concerts.

44 posted on 12/03/2011 6:24:40 AM PST by Rocko
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To: ReignOfError
the middle of it is a young woman with genuine talent;

Christina Aguilera is a similar case. Hell of a voice, but it was the skank image that made her the big money.

45 posted on 12/03/2011 6:25:38 AM PST by digger48
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To: faucetman

I do not follow pop culture much at all. I have wondered if Miss Germanotta has found a way to be anonymous should she choose to be so. Her star persona is SO over the top, that should she venture out as herself, she might be able to do so without anyone bothering her. Or, she could mature into her normal self, as you suggest she should.


46 posted on 12/03/2011 6:30:48 AM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Kaslin
In show biz, "jumping the shark" is a term used to describe a project in decline. It is derived from the hit sitcom...

One of the most annoying things about the term "jumping the shark" is hearing the story of its genesis over and over again. For every four times you hear the term on a standalone basis, you get one time where it's accompanied by the stupid Fonzie story.

47 posted on 12/03/2011 6:30:59 AM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: ctdonath2
Having to explain a phrase every time it’s used is a good sign it’s a lousy phrase.

You beat me to it. "Jumped the shark" really is one of the most annoying phrases to come along in decades.

48 posted on 12/03/2011 6:35:01 AM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: truthfreedom
Lady Gaga is the creation of Jimmy Iovine. Jimmy Iovine likes to hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype and hype marginally talented acts, spending millions and millions of dollars. None of that is edgy or anti-establishment.

Correct - it's classic Capitalism; mold a product that people will give you money for and keep the marketing strong.

49 posted on 12/03/2011 6:41:22 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: ClearCase_guy

i believe robbie robertson said they had been “on the road” for twenty years and that was enough. i can understand that.


50 posted on 12/03/2011 6:49:43 AM PST by beebuster2000
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