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Bibles NOT allowed at Walter Reed Hospital ??? VIDEO at link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNSzb8RcWkk&feature=player_detailpage#t=413s ^

Posted on 12/03/2011 6:07:07 AM PST by Java4Jay

No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading material, and/or artifacts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit, the policy states.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bibles; nobibles; walterreed
I realize the ban was lifted one day after Congressman King raised the issue on the House floor but still.

“That means you can’t bring in a Bible and read from it when you visit your son or your daughter, perhaps – or your wife or husband. “It means a priest that might be coming in to visit someone on their death bed couldn’t bring in the Eucharist, couldn’t offer Last Rites. This is the most outrageous affront.”

“The idea that these soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that have fought to defend our Constitution, and that includes our First Amendment rights to religious liberty –would be denied that religious liberty when they are lying in a hospital bed recovering from wounds incurred while defending that liberty is the most bitter and offensive type of an irony that I can think of.”

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/u-s-military-to-rescind-policy-banning-bibles-at-hospital.html

1 posted on 12/03/2011 6:07:12 AM PST by Java4Jay
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To: Java4Jay

Isn’t Walter Reed hospital closed?


2 posted on 12/03/2011 6:09:50 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Java4Jay

FOX news http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/u-s-military-to-rescind-policy-banning-bibles-at-hospital.html


3 posted on 12/03/2011 6:10:06 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: txrefugee

Newly named Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Md

http://www.army.mil/walterreedmove/


4 posted on 12/03/2011 6:15:13 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

Is the Koran allowed?


5 posted on 12/03/2011 6:16:27 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier' out of our White House!/)
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To: Java4Jay

Memo signed by C. W. Callahan, Chief of Staff

http://www.bethesda.med.navy.mil/visitor/about_us/deputy_commander.aspx


6 posted on 12/03/2011 6:21:38 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

The next president, assuming we get the right person in there this time, is going to need to do a lot of house cleaning.


7 posted on 12/03/2011 6:27:41 AM PST by bytesmith
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To: cricket

“Is the Koran allowed?”

Probably, since it represents a cult, not a religion.


8 posted on 12/03/2011 6:30:14 AM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Java4Jay
Rep. King is MY congressman and a very good personal friend. I've been proud of him from the day he walked into the US House of Representatives but never more proud of him than when I saw him speak this from the floor of the US House.

God bless Rep. King--perhaps one of the greatest congressmen, EVER, to grace the US House.

9 posted on 12/03/2011 6:30:16 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: bytesmith

Senate Repeals Bans on Sodomy and Bestiality in the Military

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/senate-repeals-bans-on-sodomy-and-bestiality-in-the-u-s-military/


10 posted on 12/03/2011 6:32:10 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

They can’t stop God from coming into the hospital..Just pray and ask him to be with you and protect you..

The fools that make these rules will never know since they can’t see or hear God like we Christians can..

It will not get any better we are living in the last days I really believe..


11 posted on 12/03/2011 6:33:42 AM PST by PLD
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To: Java4Jay

The Air force is much more open to the religious, provided the religion is paganism.


12 posted on 12/03/2011 6:36:24 AM PST by DManA
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To: Java4Jay

The Pentagon under the Obama administration has acknowledged seizing and burning the privately owned Bibles of American soldiers serving in Afghanistan


13 posted on 12/03/2011 6:37:49 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Rannug

Now they will try to change our national motto to:

“ONE NATION UNDER A CULT”

I hope this does not give them a new idea.


14 posted on 12/03/2011 6:40:11 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: Java4Jay
What were they going to do, open mail and destroy any greeting card with a Bible verse? This was shades of Fahrenheit 451.
15 posted on 12/03/2011 6:40:19 AM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Java4Jay

our initial intention which was to respect religious and cultural practices of our patients.”

We respect them by outlawing them. The lack of critical thinking skill in the class of people running things is as disturbing as the spiritual decay in evidence here.


16 posted on 12/03/2011 6:40:41 AM PST by DManA
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To: Java4Jay

From the military academies to the highest ranks in the Pentagon, from the regional commands to the ships at sea, a drastic purge is needed. We have fought two wars over ten years and only two real commanders come to mind — Petraeus and Odierno. And that is scarey.


17 posted on 12/03/2011 6:42:10 AM PST by Melchior
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To: LetMarch

The United States of America needs to outlaw Islam


18 posted on 12/03/2011 6:44:47 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

Islam is clearly unconstitutional. The goal of Islam is to do away with our rule of law and replace it with Sharia law. There is no god greater than Allah. If we want to bow down to Allah, then we can welcome Islam.


19 posted on 12/03/2011 6:48:33 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: PLD

Amen!
In my 77+ years it seems we are on the verge of yielding to the powers of Satan (the god of this world); Under his direction and guidance, he will pass laws that will make Christians criminals, even attempt to make it a law against the return of our Saviour Jesus Christ.

May we remember Jesus said: “My Lord said unto My Lord, sit down at My right side until I make Thine enemies Thy foot stool!”


20 posted on 12/03/2011 6:50:42 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: Java4Jay

The military maintains it is a misunderstanding and they rescinded the policy in order to clarify it ... where’s the original memo? I want to judge for myself if this is really a misunderstanding. Chances are it is NOT.


21 posted on 12/03/2011 6:56:59 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: DManA

The light switch is turned on and the cockroaches scurry for the cracks in the wall. Excuses and obfuscations will fly like bats out of a bat cave. This memo was approved by the commander of Walter Reed. It states, “No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading material, and/or artifacts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.” Public Affairs Officer Sandy Dean claims these instructions have been rescinded because they did not, “articulate our initial intention which was to respect religious and cultural practices of our patients.” The instructions were “misinterpreted” because they were “ambiguous.” VA Cemetery director Arleen Ocasio attempted to ban the mention of Christ’s name at the Houston cemetery. I guess this is just another example of someone being “misunderstood.”


22 posted on 12/03/2011 7:04:07 AM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: LetMarch
There are to many signs from the word that shows Christians what is going on today and what has built up to the destruction of our beautiful country and our freedoms... God is watching!! I will never renounce God for anyone,no matter what anyone might do to me..
23 posted on 12/03/2011 7:04:23 AM PST by PLD
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To: LetMarch

Our Father through His Trinity is what brought birth to this great nation. Her existence prospered and world wars won by faith in Jesus. Remove The Father from this nation and she falls, her blessings will cease.


24 posted on 12/03/2011 7:05:46 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay
For years, the military has been used as a new-age PC test lab. I saw an article in the Keesler AFB rag that showed troops collecting shoes for the needy and one of the "benefits" was a way to fight global warming> Between the repeal of DADT, homosexuality tolerance, religious "tolerance" and other training indoctrination training DoD folks have to go through, defending the US of A is a secondary thing these days.
25 posted on 12/03/2011 7:10:03 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Java4Jay

WTF ! This is not right ! One of many steps this country has gone towards to getting rid of God’s protection which we need !


26 posted on 12/03/2011 7:20:26 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: Vehmgericht

Veterans Not Allowed To Use ‘God’ In Funerals At Houston VA Cemetery. Houston National Cemetery Director, Ms. Arlene Ocasio, was requiring grieving families and volunteer groups to not use the words “God” or “Jesus” at any funeral ceremony without her prior approval.

http://biggovernment.com/mlancaster/2011/07/23/texas-congressman-goes-undercover-at-houston-national-cemetery/


27 posted on 12/03/2011 7:23:59 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

Halt all funding to Walter Reed Hospital.


28 posted on 12/03/2011 7:27:28 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Java4Jay

how about the Koran?


29 posted on 12/03/2011 7:46:20 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: trebb

A Houston, Texas, court system managed by an “out” lesbian judge has dismissed municipal tickets that had been written against two pastors who were preaching against sin, including homosexuality, on a prominent street corner.

The men were ticketed for having signs thicker than one-quarter inch (they say they were 3/16ths and that they’d been approved beforehand) and for having a sign not made out of wood.

Officers responded after someone apparently complained about the messengers and their message, but a video shows that the first officer on the scene told them they weren’t doing anything wrong.

It was a few minutes later, however, when officers approached the preachers, grabbed a video camera, wrestled them to the ground and put them in handcuffs.

That’s even though Stokes and Allan have been preaching at that location for several years.

The video: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=373737


30 posted on 12/03/2011 8:02:02 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: DManA

” The lack of critical thinking skill in the class of people running things is as disturbing as the spiritual decay in evidence here.”

This is precisely what PC destroys, what it is INTENDED to destroy from day one. PC has been in effect softening the critical thinking of the bureacratic class for 40 some-odd years. A new broom in the whitehouse will change very little if anything at all.


31 posted on 12/03/2011 8:08:56 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: TalBlack

Help fight the evils in government: http://aclj.org/


32 posted on 12/03/2011 8:13:28 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

That decision was rescinded.


33 posted on 12/03/2011 8:18:59 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Java4Jay
I think part of the problem is we've become such wimps. Some petty bureaucrat says we can't bring a Bible into a hospital or can't say a prayer mentioning God over a military grave and we cower. What would happen if everyone ignored these "rules" that no one has the power to enforce anyway? Bureaucrats count on people acting like frightened sheep--so what would happen if we we didn't? Just bring your Bible into the hospital, for crying out loud.


34 posted on 12/03/2011 8:20:19 AM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: TalBlack

PC has been in effect softening the critical thinking of the bureacratic class for 40 some-odd years.

You're so right, and it's not just the bureaucratic class. This lack of critical thinking runs rampant among teenagers--even young people in their twenties and thirties. They tend to believe that no one can know anything with certainty, that all opinions are equal, that all cultures are equal, etc. It's scary as hell. Minds like that can be talked into believing anything.


35 posted on 12/03/2011 8:26:04 AM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: Java4Jay
Article 125 was a catch-all restriction. It included all hetero-sexual behavior outside of the missionary position. Beck is being he usual dishonest, sensationalist self by hyping the "bestiality and sodomy" portion of that ruling.

Certainly it was done so that the gays could do their thing after the repeal of the DADT policy, but his choice to mention bestiality was pure sensationalism.

That kind of dishonest presentation is why I quit watching him.
36 posted on 12/03/2011 8:28:22 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Sudetenland

I understand what you are saying but the Senate bill now allows Sodomy and Bestiality due to no language disallowing it.


37 posted on 12/03/2011 8:57:25 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

Please everyone calm down. The policy was meant to prevent people accosting patients they DIDN’T know and forcing their religious beliefs and material upon them. Would you want someone bothering you while you recovered from surgery, wanting you to take a Torah or Koran? No, of course not. And neither would people who follow those books appreciate overly aggressive Christian proselytizing in a similar situation. I think Christ would want us to treat our brothers as we would like to be treated. Just my opinion.


38 posted on 12/05/2011 8:20:27 AM PST by Smallest Sparrow
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