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Boehner to Side with Dems to Avert Government Shutdown
Fox Nation ^ | December 01, 2011 | Chad Pergram, Fox News

Posted on 12/03/2011 10:32:13 AM PST by Qbert

Another potential government shutdown could loom if Congress isn’t able to scramble soon and cobble together a big omnibus spending bill to keep the government open past Dec. 16.

The current stopgap measure expires then. And only three of the 12 annual spending bills which run the federal government have been approved and signed into law.

That means House and Senate appropriators are putting together a massive, omnibus spending bill which they hope to have prepared by Dec. 15. This would not be an interim bill, better known in Capitol Hill-ese as a Continuing Resolution, or CR, which funds government in increments while the regular appropriations bills are negotiated.

This would simply allocate money for the remainder of currently unfunded government programs through Sept. 30, 2012. I am told that House appropriators are resistent to attaching any extraneous issues to this omnibus bill … such as unemployment insurance (UI), a payroll tax holiday, the alternative minimum tax (AMT) or the “doc fix” for Medicare.

What is significant here is that House Speaker John Boehner and GOP appropriators are turning their attention away from conservative Republicans who want to cut spending more...

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: boehner; donothingsenate; omnibus; shutdown; whigs
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"Boehner to Side with Dems to Avert Government Shutdown"

Why doesn't he just switch parties, and get the charade over with?...

1 posted on 12/03/2011 10:32:22 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Bohner, our Bawney Frank.

There’s no one he won’t bend over for.

Why do we bother to vote Repulsican?


2 posted on 12/03/2011 10:37:24 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: Qbert

I’m good with a government shutdown until everyone gets back from vacation in January. We’re going to pay for them doing nothing anyway, why not just make it all official and shut down the government in the interim?


3 posted on 12/03/2011 10:39:07 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Qbert

“Boehner to Side with Dems to Avert Government Shutdown”

Of course. That’s why he stuck a shiv in Newt’s back when he wouldn’t give way when he was Speaker...Boner is on the payroll for both sides.


4 posted on 12/03/2011 10:40:52 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Qbert

Yup.

I fought all last night with some people on here about electing the likes of Newt.

These folks think that these republicans have our best interests at heart have another thing coming.

If we don’t get a conservative leader as the nominee we need to support a strong conservative third party candidate or else our country and way of life will be lost forever.


5 posted on 12/03/2011 10:42:22 AM PST by CSI007
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To: Qbert

Earlier today there was a thread that FREEPERS thought Boehner was a hero again. Now this. I guess he is “zero” again. This guy goes from zero to hero and back again many times over.


6 posted on 12/03/2011 10:43:52 AM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: CSI007

One correction, if we push a third party candidate, then this country surely is lost forever, because zero will be reelected. You can take that silly philosophy and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. Has the lesson of Ross Perot not been learned by some on here?


7 posted on 12/03/2011 10:45:00 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: Qbert
Impossible. I have been reading all week that Boenher was a member of the 1997 GOP coupe to tople Newt as Speaker because he compromised too much with a Democratic President. So how can it be that Mr. Purity would now side with RATS? Can leadership be that difficult?
8 posted on 12/03/2011 10:45:39 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Qbert
Impossible. I have been reading all week that Boenher was a member of the 1997 GOP coupe to tople Newt as Speaker because he compromised too much with a Democratic President. So how can it be that Mr. Purity would now side with RATS? Can leadership be that difficult?
9 posted on 12/03/2011 10:45:52 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Qbert
Impossible. I have been reading all week that Boenher was a member of the 1997 GOP coupe to tople Newt as Speaker because he compromised too much with a Democratic President. So how can it be that Mr. Purity would now side with RATS? Can leadership be that difficult?
10 posted on 12/03/2011 10:45:52 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Qbert

Good grief....another end of the world shutdown threat, right before Bammy’s vacation.


11 posted on 12/03/2011 10:46:27 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Qbert

This is why I wanted Bachmann as Speaker.


12 posted on 12/03/2011 10:47:19 AM PST by Ballygrl
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To: jessduntno

Boner was not in the leadership at that time, dang, and the vote against newt was over 90% against. Tom Delay was whip. What I want to know is what was the evidence that caused such a majority vote.


13 posted on 12/03/2011 10:48:37 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: kingu

“We’re going to pay for them doing nothing anyway, why not just make it all official and shut down the government in the interim?”

A lot of feds will be off much of December anyhow, many using leave under ‘use or lose’ circumstances. The remaining few will either be taking leave themselves or be largely doing nothing of substance.


14 posted on 12/03/2011 10:49:14 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Qbert
Another potential government shutdown could loom...

It's the best damn thing that could happen to show we can get along without them just fine.

15 posted on 12/03/2011 10:50:58 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: lacrew

Issa rolled yesterday, Boehner today. Tell me again why I should even bother voting.


16 posted on 12/03/2011 10:51:51 AM PST by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: Qbert

Everyone whos is surprised by cockroach boehner’s position raise your hand.


17 posted on 12/03/2011 10:52:14 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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The first thing that needs to be done is to declare that there will be NO MORE CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS! The fact that the government hasn't come up with a budget in YEARS provides cover for both leftists and ... Well, all the irresponsible big government congress-critters, left, right, and middle. By not having a budget, they can just spend on anything they and their masters' little, disease-ridden, puss-filled hearts desire, while the taxpayers get screwed, again and again!

Everyone to whom I've spoken about the government budget had no idea that those bastards in the democrat controlled senate have turned it into a black hole... The house sends a proposed budget in, but nothing ever comes out! Heck, the MSM has done such a terrific job for their masters in the dem party, not a one knew that the senate is even controlled by the dems!

Mark

18 posted on 12/03/2011 10:52:48 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: 11th Commandment

Boehner has no leadership ability whatsoveer and is absolutely worthless. He makes me want to cry!


19 posted on 12/03/2011 10:52:59 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Qbert

What Boehner should do is offer ONLY essential spending, e.g., about 80% of military, courts (gotta keep criminal processes moving or the bad guys get set free), etc. and then publicize that fact.

If the REST shuts down, let’s see who cares besides hardcore Dems.


20 posted on 12/03/2011 10:52:59 AM PST by pogo101
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To: Qbert

He always does. Why should this time be any different?


21 posted on 12/03/2011 10:54:04 AM PST by sport
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To: lacrew

“Good grief....another end of the world shutdown threat, right before Bammy’s vacation.”

It’s all by design. And the Repubs fall for it every time, unfortunately.


22 posted on 12/03/2011 10:54:22 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: lacrew

it will all be done by 11:59 pm Christmas Eve with many many surprises


23 posted on 12/03/2011 10:54:31 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Qbert
Good political calculus!

It is too difficult to explain to the voting public why not to continue with the payroll tax cut.

It would give Obama the club he's looking for, so taking it out of his hand allows Republicans to trumpet the failure of Obama and the importance of cutting spending.

24 posted on 12/03/2011 10:55:32 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: Catsrus

If you think electing a rino to office is going to be much better than more power to you.

Newt, Romney, Perry..all from the same mold. These folks are the kind of politicians that have dragged this country down over the many years..... Evil dems driving towards that brick wall at 100mph. The evil and might I add stupid republicans are doing it at 90mph.

The outcome will be the same...SOCIALISM in the USA.


25 posted on 12/03/2011 10:56:23 AM PST by CSI007
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To: Qbert
What would Nancy Pelosi do?

... really who need democrats when you have GOP 'leaders' like this

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26 posted on 12/03/2011 10:56:36 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: CSI007
Perry is for cutting congress's pay and sending them home for most of the time so they can earn a living with the laws they pass...at home!

According to many FReepers, Perry is a RINO, while in TRUTH, Perry is more conservative than many FReepers these days.

And he hurt their feelings!

27 posted on 12/03/2011 10:57:49 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Catsrus
then this country surely is lost forever

I hate to break this to you, Catsrus, but there’s no point hanging onto the past. America had a great run. Remember it fondly for what it was.

America is now little more than an open-borders land mass populated by cretins and parasites who have absolutely no respect for the military and who vote for big government to confiscate money from their neighbors and “redistribute” it to them in exchange for their votes. It is not an America worth defending anymore. That America no longer exists.

The parasites outnumber the hosts now, and there’s no going back. The Democrats have won. Republican politicians are relegated strictly to big-mouthing about how they will do this and do that, but in the end they are nothing more than Democrat-lite. Between the two parties the difference is merely a matter of how fast the swirling water takes America down the toilet, but the destination is the same regardless.

So throw some cold water in your face, arm yourself to the teeth, and figure out how to grab every last government dime you possibly can before the parasites gobble it all up. Every man for himself.

FRegards, and good luck,
LH

28 posted on 12/03/2011 10:59:26 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Catsrus

I hear ya, but we are currently dying the death of a thousand cuts and everybody is sick of it. As things are, we are toast with the current crop of self servers running the govt. I don’t see anything different on the horizon. Besides electing romneys, bush’s and other assorted rinos what is your plan?


29 posted on 12/03/2011 10:59:37 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: 11th Commandment

“So how can it be that Mr. Purity would now side with RATS? Can leadership be that difficult?

No, it’s not difficult, it’s corrupt. And that bastard is a pro at that.


30 posted on 12/03/2011 11:00:18 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Qbert
I put the Crybaby in the same contemptuous basket as Obama, except Obama is much smarter and more effective.
31 posted on 12/03/2011 11:01:55 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: lonestar

Well, I am leaning Perry, even though he’s soaking wet on the illegals-who-are-already-here issue and screwed up royally in his first debate with that “have no heart” comment.

That, unfortunately, was his first impression to many GOP voters outside of Texas: insulting them and calling them heartless. YOu never get a second chance to make a first impression.

I think a lot of FReepers privately prefer Perry, though, despite these big problems, to Newt and Willard. But with Perry trailing badly in the early states, will we even have the OPTION of voting for him in the OTHER states? (My state’s primary is in JUNE!)


32 posted on 12/03/2011 11:03:32 AM PST by pogo101
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To: kingu
I’m good with a government shutdown until everyone gets back from vacation in January.

So am I. The problem is that the last time govt was shut down, a lot of voters were not happy. The GOP was blamed and believes seats were lost because of it.

33 posted on 12/03/2011 11:04:45 AM PST by freespirited (Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business & degenerates into a racket. -- Hoffer)
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To: CSI007

“If we don’t get a conservative leader as the nominee we need to support a strong conservative third party candidate or else our country and way of life will be lost forever.”

Hmmmmmm...let me see if I have this straight...Newt was taken out by the GOP elite for closing down the Gubmint and playing too rough and now the VERY SAME assassins are still there, but somehow NEWT is the establishment guy?

Does this really make sense to anybody, because I just don’t understand how a guy who did more to change our government, other than RR, became the bad guy while the guys that killed him off and drove him out are out playing golf with Hussein?


34 posted on 12/03/2011 11:05:02 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Elle Bee

Yep.

Nothing’s going to change until Conservatives replace Boehner, Steve LaTourette, and the rest of that hapless bunch.


35 posted on 12/03/2011 11:06:02 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
As things are, we are toast with the current crop of self servers running the govt. I don’t see anything different on the horizon.

This is what is so depressing. The 2010 elections appear to have been meaningless and the 2012 elections, including the election for president, are shaping up to guarantee more of the same.

36 posted on 12/03/2011 11:06:52 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Qbert

And some of you STILL pull the “vote for whoever the GOP elite shove down our throats - oh look it’s OBAMA!!!” Blech. Nope. THIS is what you get for always being scared and doing what the elite tell you. NO more. NO more RINOs. Third Party or write in unless a real Conservative gets in this race.


37 posted on 12/03/2011 11:10:23 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: org.whodat

“Boner was not in the leadership at that time”

Seriously? Just when I think you can’t get dumber, you hit a new low. Where did I say he was?


38 posted on 12/03/2011 11:10:59 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Prokopton

Bachman can play a big part in history by calling a press conference,drop from the race and announce she is challenging boner for speakership.


39 posted on 12/03/2011 11:11:33 AM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: All

What are all of you complaining about? It is the best deal Boehner can get. </s>


40 posted on 12/03/2011 11:11:46 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: org.whodat

“In the summer of 1997 several House Republicans, who saw Gingrich’s public image as a liability, attempted to replace him as Speaker. The attempted “coup” began July 9 with a meeting of Republican conference chairman John Boehner of Ohio and Republican leadership chairman Bill Paxon of New York.”


41 posted on 12/03/2011 11:14:33 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: Elle Bee

What would Nancy Pelosi do?
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(Politically) like her or not (I Don’t) - I don’t recall her selling her party short or ‘giving’ in to the opposition.

If nothing else, they have togetherness.

R’s castigate a “D” and they basically circle the wagons.

D’s castigate an “R”, the R’s look for more R’s to throw under the bus.

Goes back to the 50s when the ‘word’ was

If the Russians arrest an American for spying, the Americans arrest 3 Americans for spying.


42 posted on 12/03/2011 11:14:57 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) If govt involved, the more outlandish a scheme appears, the truer it probably is.)
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To: Qbert

The House passes budgets, the Senate doesn’t

So of course the GOP leaders cave, again and again and again


43 posted on 12/03/2011 11:15:50 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Da Coyote
"our"? Don't know about you, I am an independent conservative with a hankerin' for the constitution. That puts me at odds with all democrats, and most republicans.

That is the sad truth.

44 posted on 12/03/2011 11:26:23 AM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: jessduntno
Conference chairman is not the leadership, army and delay were in the leadership, conference chairman has no more authority than a committee chairman. The vote on his illegal and unethical dealings was all that was needed. Bob Livingston was the man that announced a run for speaker against newt the worm.
45 posted on 12/03/2011 11:30:42 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: Da Coyote
And now, with Cain having been run out of the race by the establishment on both R and D sides, the RINOS have no need to put up a false front.

Cain haters, I hope you are happy now.

46 posted on 12/03/2011 11:33:16 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Da Coyote

Coyote, I’ve done some pretty deep soul-searching lately and I’ve come to believe the Republicans are no better than the Demons.....I truly thing that there is not one politician who’s looking out for me and my family. The Pubs are a disgrace, the Demons have ALWAYS been a disgrace and I wouldn’t have thought this 6 months ago but a 3rd party, namely strong Conservative/Constitutionalist in it’s politics may be the biggest upset to come down the political pike in a long time. People are FED UP with BOTH parties!


47 posted on 12/03/2011 11:34:58 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Catsrus

I refuse to believe that. Just another scare tatic by the corrupt press, the Demons and the establishment/RINO Republicans. I’m sick to death of hearing that. When you get people who are sick of the WHOLE SHEBANG and BOTH parties that’s a recipe for a 3rd party to be successful.


48 posted on 12/03/2011 11:37:49 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: org.whodat
In the summer of 1997 several House Republicans, who saw Gingrich's public image as a liability, attempted to replace him as Speaker. The attempted "coup" began July 9 with a meeting of Republican conference chairman John Boehner of Ohio and Republican leadership chairman Bill Paxon of New York.

According to their plan, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, Boehner and Paxon were to present Gingrich with an ultimatum: resign, or be voted out. However, Armey balked at the proposal to make Paxon the new Speaker, and told his chief of staff to warn Gingrich about the attempted coup.

On July 11, Gingrich met with senior Republican leadership to assess the situation. He explained that under no circumstance would he step down. He wasn't a quitter...If he was voted out, there would be a new election for Speaker, which would allow for the possibility that Democrats—along with dissenting Republicans—would vote in Dick Gephardt as Speaker.

On July 16, Paxon offered to resign his post, feeling that he had not handled the situation correctly, as the only member of the leadership who had been appointed to his position—by Gingrich—instead of elected.

Eighty-four ethics charges were filed against Speaker Gingrich during his term, including claiming tax-exempt status for a college course run for political purposes.

Following an investigation by the House Ethics Committee Gingrich was sanctioned US$300,000. Gingrich acknowledged in January 1997 that "In my name and over my signature, inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee". The House Ethics Committee concluded that inaccurate information supplied to investigators represented "intentional or ... reckless" disregard of House rules.

Special Counsel James M. Cole concluded that Gingrich violated federal tax law and had lied to the ethics panel in an effort to force the committee to dismiss the complaint against him. The full committee panel did not agree whether tax law had been violated and left that issue up to the IRS. In 1999, the IRS cleared the organizations connected with the "Renewing American Civilization" courses under investigation for possible tax violations.

So, in other words, my poor dimwitted friend, he didn't do anything wrong, even though he thought he did and resigned because of it.

Not something a dishonest guy or someone who would hurt the Party would do, I don't think.

But you aren't going to either understand or believe, so this can be my going away present to you; politics ain't beanbag and Boehner has the long knife a a scruple deficit worthy of a Roman Senator. Which I think he believes he is.

49 posted on 12/03/2011 11:46:45 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: org.whodat

Facing a rebellion in the Republican caucus, he announced on November 5, 1998 that he would not only stand down as Speaker, but would leave the House as well. Gingrich made this announcement only a day after being elected to an 11th term from his district. Commenting on his departure, Gingrich said, “I’m willing to lead but I’m not willing to preside over people who are cannibals. My only fear would be that if I tried to stay, it would just overshadow whoever my successor is.”


50 posted on 12/03/2011 11:54:25 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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