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Herman Cainís Campaign Suspended
Redstate ^ | 12/3/2011 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 12/03/2011 11:36:27 AM PST by TBBT

By suspending his campaign instead of quitting his campaign, Herman can still get federal matching funds in 2012.

But the campaign is over. Even had it continued, it was over.

I had thought and expected that Cain would continue until Iowa. He had enough money. Dropping out after losing in Iowa would have distracted from the present issues.

Dropping out now will be viewed by a great many as an admission against interests that Herman Cain did have a 13 year affair.

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By suspending his campaign instead of quitting his campaign, Herman can still get federal matching funds in 2012.

Interesting point. Wonder why the idiot media hasn't picking on that?

It is a sad ending for a good man.

Sad indeed...

Who does this hurt to most? Romney? Because loosing Cain damages the strategy of keeping the Not Romney forces fractured?
1 posted on 12/03/2011 11:36:32 AM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

“Dropping out now leaves the impression he did have an affair...” WTH do these people want. Just freakin pisses me off beyond words. I have to go


2 posted on 12/03/2011 11:39:29 AM PST by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: TBBT
Dropping out now will be viewed by a great many as an admission against interests that Herman Cain did have a 13 year affair.

No. Dropping out means there are worse candidates to choose from.

3 posted on 12/03/2011 11:41:22 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: GoCards
Vote bachmann piss off the washington insiders.
4 posted on 12/03/2011 11:43:04 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: TBBT

There will be many, if not the vast majority, that will blame his demise on the bimbo eruption factor. Not rue, his 9-9-9 plan did him in. The girls were simply a distraction.


5 posted on 12/03/2011 11:43:33 AM PST by JakeS (This would be a good time to read John chapter three 1-21)
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To: JakeS

Your out of your mind


6 posted on 12/03/2011 11:47:21 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver

he’s right.

Cain was and is a lightweight. Dangerously stupid on all things political.


7 posted on 12/03/2011 11:50:00 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: org.whodat

It will be ironic when the Cain supporters go to Newt the consummate D.C. insider that represents everything they dislike about government. You just could not make this stuff up, no one would believe you.


8 posted on 12/03/2011 11:51:18 AM PST by jpsb
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To: JakeS
Not rue, his 9-9-9 plan did him in. The girls were simply a distraction.

999 is what made me end my ping list for Cain.

9 posted on 12/03/2011 11:53:44 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: TBBT
By suspending his campaign instead of quitting his campaign, Herman can still get federal matching funds in 2012. But the campaign is over.
Isn't this essentially exploiting a technicality to get a handout from us taxpayers?
10 posted on 12/03/2011 11:57:18 AM PST by PalinPlease
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To: TBBT

What a real shame. The establishment and the MSM are sure happy they have less competition. Look like the 2012 election is going to be like the other ones, the least of the worse to pick from instead of the best of the best !


11 posted on 12/03/2011 11:58:27 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: jpsb

Great, I need to hold my nose again in 2012.


12 posted on 12/03/2011 12:00:59 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: CORedneck
The establishment and the MSM are sure happy they have less competition.

Yep. The people who are really happy about this are pathetic worms like Karl Rove.

13 posted on 12/03/2011 12:00:59 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Hammerhead
Cain was and is a lightweight. Dangerously stupid on all things political.

So you support Newt, right?

Why would anyone value your opinion when you back such an ethically, morally, and issue-position challenged loser of a candidate such as Newt?
14 posted on 12/03/2011 12:01:37 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: MaxMax
Great, I need to hold my nose again in 2012.

I'm going to need a frickin' gas mask.

15 posted on 12/03/2011 12:02:46 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: TBBT
A huge disappointment on many levels.

If Herman Cain believed that he could run for president as a conservative while keeping an extra-martial affair secret from an extremely hostile media, he was incredibly naive and two words should have forewarned him: Sarah Palin. Although I was a Cain supporter and fully believe the previous allegations of 'harassment' against Cain were false, this latest accusation of a long-running affair and Cain's dubious response to the accusation leads me to believe this one was legitimate, and so, even more disappointing.

At this point, we're about out of conservatives to vote for. Although Bachmann and Santorum will benefit from Cain's departure from the race, we all know that its Newt Gingrich that will receive the lion's share of Cain supporter's votes. I'm not really comfortable with Gingrich. I simply don't trust him to adhere to conservative principles, if elected. I can easily envision Gingrich 'drifting left' (eg: his now-abandoned support for the 'global warming' hoax) one in office and conservatives, yet again, being dumped on so Newt can get good press from the leftmedia as he 'compromises' (translation: caves) with Democrats.

At this point, I'm not sure who I'll support anymore. Romney is a non-starter, Newt is, well, Newt while Santorum and Bachmann are extremely 'dark horses'. The DNC/Obama campaign with the willing help of the leftmedia are effectively narrowing our choices - and I hate it. Although I still think Cain was a fool for carrying on an extra-martial affair while trying to run for the Republican presidential nomination. Too late now. However, if it comes down to Romney or Gingrich I'll have to go with Gingrich and of course, even a quasi-conservative in the Oval Office would be far and away better than the Marxist we have, today.

16 posted on 12/03/2011 12:03:10 PM PST by Jim Scott (on the 'Cain Train')
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To: Hammerhead

another one, start listing your achievements.


17 posted on 12/03/2011 12:03:52 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Jim Scott

Perry?


18 posted on 12/03/2011 12:05:51 PM PST by Dick Vomer ("Free Terra Texas")
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To: jpsb
"It will be ironic when the Cain supporters go to Newt the consummate D.C. insider that represents everything they dislike about government. You just could not make this stuff up, no one would believe you."

I agree with you. bttt

19 posted on 12/03/2011 12:05:56 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: TBBT
Interesting point. Wonder why the idiot media hasn't picking on that?

That's the first thing the asshat with the Buddy Holly glasses on MSNBC said after the announcement. His amusement with Cain dropping out said , "We got him!" He better hope he never meets me in public - I'll end up in jail. I've had it with all the media (including the Fox pundits). They've been deciding who our candidates are for too long now.

20 posted on 12/03/2011 12:09:55 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: TBBT
Loose and Lose - Grammar & Composition
21 posted on 12/03/2011 12:11:59 PM PST by Reeses (Have you mocked a Democrat today?)
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To: jpsb
This Cain supporter will not go to Romney/Newt or the female in the race...I just might leave president blank and vote down ballot for conservatives...

To those that will say by not voting I am voting for Obama. Nope, just letting the republican insiders they don't have my support on who they choose...Never missed a presidental vote and I am in my 7th decade...tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils...screw them all..I am conservative not a blind republican...

22 posted on 12/03/2011 12:12:27 PM PST by goat granny
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To: org.whodat

I’m with Bachmann now. Can’t go with Newt. Sorry. He’s better than Romney but the choice between a Nixon and Gerald Ford really isn’t much of a choice. I’ll go with the lady. Hopefully she and her team will get their act together.


23 posted on 12/03/2011 12:17:06 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: TBBT

I bet Michael Medved is happy. FUMM!!!


24 posted on 12/03/2011 12:19:22 PM PST by MachIV
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To: goat granny
...tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

Then don't vote, because that's the only choice you're ever going to get, I guarantee you.

It usually comes down to this - I try to decide which of the candidates is probably going to do me and the country less damage, then that's who I vote for. That's how I ended up voting for both Bushes and McCain. The alternative was far worse.

25 posted on 12/03/2011 12:19:28 PM PST by Argus
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To: Hammerhead

That’s silly. Cain has been involved in and engaged in politics for at least two decades. He was on tv in 1993 challenging Clinton on live tv over socialized healthcare. This charge is bogus.


26 posted on 12/03/2011 12:23:48 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: MaxMax

Hold your nose for Rick Perry. I have in Texas more than once and I’m glad I did.


27 posted on 12/03/2011 12:25:04 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Jim Scott

Sarah had something in her past that kept her from running.


28 posted on 12/03/2011 12:26:25 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: TBBT

Wonder who the suckers will flock to now.


29 posted on 12/03/2011 12:31:03 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: JakeS

Funny, his poll numbers were up until the bimbos erupted.

You might want to rethink that position.


30 posted on 12/03/2011 12:31:26 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Dick Vomer

You have to be kidding.


31 posted on 12/03/2011 12:32:29 PM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: TBBT

This sucks.

But have to give credit to Dick Morris who said “if a candidate ever says he’s got to think about whether to continue or not...he’s done”.

True in most things in life, not just political campaigns.


32 posted on 12/03/2011 12:32:53 PM PST by bigbob
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To: TBBT

Thank God! Cain was a one man clown car show.

Now that the sideshow has ended, let’s get on with the main event!


33 posted on 12/03/2011 12:34:03 PM PST by Palladin (Herman delivered the pepperoni.)
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To: Hammerhead
Cain was and is a lightweight. Dangerously stupid on all things political.

Yeah buddy!

Those heavyweight smart politicians have really done well by us in the past, haven't they!

34 posted on 12/03/2011 12:35:10 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: isthisnickcool

No way, Santorum is the only alternative if HC does not jump back in.


35 posted on 12/03/2011 12:36:32 PM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: TBBT
I don't know who gains the most ...the American people were definitely the losers.

My List-

Romney - No way in hell.

Newt- Seems more of a moderate big government type these days and has huge character issues ...his “immigration reform” plan is not realistic and will lead to amnesty after court challenge OR a permanent underclass of non-citizens similar to those in Europe (see Paris riots, etc) Newt is smart enough to know that; therefore, he is being disingenuous.

Huntsman - Pffft

Perry - Just got Arpaio’s endorsement; so, worth a re-look; don't like the “educate illegals as in-state residents;” but, it's Texas and they have a different culture than most of us non-border states; plus the Feds have mucked things up and left Texans holding the bag; so, will consider that as mitigating circumstances to some extent.

Bachmann - Good on paper ...seems an opportunist in her attacks on other Conservative candidates (never goes after Romney) and I worry how serious she would be about 9-9-9 or similar tax reforms since she is a tax lawyer and that is tied to the family business. Still, will consider her.

Paul - We agree on many domestic issues ...we're worlds apart on foreign policy.

Santorum - Again, good on paper; but, has a “likability factor” problem and lost his last Senate race ...still, will consider him

36 posted on 12/03/2011 12:37:11 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: John123

why in the hell aren’t boards across the web doing to Zer0bana what they are doing to the GOP candiates?

HE is the enemy, let the candidates sore things out at the same time we all bash hell out of, and post facts on what the POS Muslime’n Chief is and is doing


37 posted on 12/03/2011 12:37:16 PM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: isthisnickcool

Have you lost it?


38 posted on 12/03/2011 12:38:01 PM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: Argus
Then don't vote, because that's the only choice you're ever going to get, I guarantee you.

That's true of our two party Coke vs. Pepsi duopoly. Three parties is politically unstable but if we had four parties each with about 25% market share we could both vote more precisely and win more often. From left to right the parties would be socialist/communist party, Democrat government hireling party, Republican country club/business party, and the conservative party. Possibly by guaranteeing some seats in the state legislatures for the top four vote getting parties we could incubate a four party system.

39 posted on 12/03/2011 12:38:41 PM PST by Reeses (Have you mocked a Democrat today?)
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To: Palladin
You are going down further into the abyss more every day.
40 posted on 12/03/2011 12:40:44 PM PST by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...Go Herman Cain.)
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To: Argus
Then don't vote, because that's the only choice you're ever going to get, I guarantee you.

It usually comes down to this - I try to decide which of the candidates is probably going to do me and the country less damage, then that's who I vote for. That's how I ended up voting for both Bushes and McCain. The alternative was far worse.

Other than Ronald Reagan, when have we had someone terrific to vote for on the national level? Pretty much never. And that is how it will almost always be in a 2 party system. Most of the time the majority of Americans are not going to have someone they are really excited about to vote for for President. Republicans had Reagan in 1980 and Democrats had Obama in 2008. Otherwise both sides, particularly the grass roots on both sides, are usually pretty let down and voting mostly against the other guy. At least most conservatives are still thrilled with Reagan and wished we had another. The lefties hero, Hussein, has been a craptastic failure.

So long as we have a system like ours that prevents coalition building, there is really no way more than 2 serious party's can exist at the same time. Once in a great, great while one party will implode and be replaced by another - but then that new party will just become the 2nd leg of the 2 party system.

Every candidate remaining in our field of potential nominees would be better than Obama - if for no other reason than court selections. I will vote for whoever the Republicans nominate. All of our influential conservative voices like Palin, Cain, Rush, Hannity, etc, will endorse, campaign and vote for our nominee. All the wailing aside, most of those saying they won't vote for this or that candidate will end up voting for the Republican nominee. Reality will set it, and removing Hussein from the White House is just too important.

41 posted on 12/03/2011 12:42:57 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Funny, his poll numbers were up until the bimbos erupted. You might want to rethink that position.

It was the 9-9-9- plan that cost him my wife and I. Further more it was the 9-9-9 plan that cost him the support of others we know that had originally thought, that because of his business experience, he might be good.

I don't know anyone who dropped him because of unfounded and unproven accusations.

42 posted on 12/03/2011 12:43:42 PM PST by JakeS (This would be a good time to read John chapter three 1-21)
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To: isthisnickcool
Sarah had something in her past that kept her from running.

I'm very sorry if that was the case but its also why I'm frustrated that a man I supported, Herman Cain, assumed that he could keep up some kind of extra-martial 'relationship' and not be exposed.

I'm just ticked off that it's so easy for the DNC and the leftmedia to destroy any conservative with these sex scandals. I don't support Newt Gingrich but fully expect the mud to start flying at him by next week, at the latest.

43 posted on 12/03/2011 12:44:19 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: Reeses

Problem there is the socialist/commies will comfortably pair up with the Dems every time, so one way or the other that side will always be in.

Repub. country club and Conservative parties would fight like cats and neither would ever win.


44 posted on 12/03/2011 12:48:48 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Dick Vomer
Perry?

I've been unimpressed with Perry so far although I can't say that I wouldn't vote for him depending on who his challengers were.

Rick Santorum suffers from a charisma deficit and Michelle Bachmann has made a lot of foolish mistakes but I'm not really against her, either. I would take Perry or Bachmann over Newt but I don't think Rick Santorum can defeat Obama head-to-head. We'll see who does what in the next few days as the fallout over Cain's withdrawal takes shape.

45 posted on 12/03/2011 12:51:03 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: Reeses
but if we had four parties each with about 25% market share we could both vote more precisely and win more often.

There will never be that diversity in our system because, whether intentional or not, it is designed for 2 party's. That is the reason there has essentially ALWAYS been just 2 party's from the founding on. If one party becomes so rotten or useless it implodes, the new party that replaces it simply becomes the 2nd leg of a two party system.

The problem is there is no possibility of coalition building. So long as governing coalitions can not be built, people wisely realize that voting for 3rd party's simply dilutes the relative strength of their block of common interests. In essence, what this means is that more often than not Americans are voting AGAINST another party and are simply pooling their ideological strength to prevent something worse from taking power. It is extremely rare, especially at the national level, that the majority of Americans actually have someone they are really excited about voting FOR.

46 posted on 12/03/2011 12:51:51 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: JakeS
I don't know anyone who dropped him because of unfounded and unproven accusations.

LOL...like another poster said, you are out of your mind!

47 posted on 12/03/2011 12:54:15 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Jim Scott
I'm just ticked off that it's so easy for the DNC and the leftmedia to destroy any conservative with these sex scandals.

This is really just not accurate. What destroys conservatives with sex scandals is Republican voters who won't tolerate them. It is why Democrats can more easily get away with this stuff. Democratic voters are less family values oriented and less traditional, therefore they care far less about these kinds of things. Republicans are far more vulnerable to sex scandals and the resulting hypocrisy charge precisely because of the core voters they appeal to.

The media didn't destroy Cain, Cain destroyed himself. If none of these accusations were true, he would not have dropped out. Period. His problem was he couldn't adequately defend himself against these charges which means there was likely something to them. There is just no way around it.

48 posted on 12/03/2011 12:56:54 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: goat granny

To those that will say by not voting I am voting for Obama. Nope, just letting the republican insiders they don’t have my support on who they choose...Never missed a presidental vote and I am in my 7th decade...tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils...screw them all..I am conservative not a blind republican...”””

Ditto. Same age range. Female. Conservative.

Cannot wait to call Dean Heller’s office on Monday & yell at him about voting FOR bill to allow sodomy & beastiality in our military!!!


49 posted on 12/03/2011 12:59:12 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: TBBT
To say I am PO’d about this friggin song and dance from an ego-maniacal pretender would be an understatement. Not only did he damage a wife and family and shamed them all on a world stage but he brought the same embarrassment to his fellow Republican candidates.

I just wish there were a way for every lied to contributor to get their money back.

What a giant @hole.

50 posted on 12/03/2011 12:59:37 PM PST by Cyman
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